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You had valid leave in the UK called discretionary leave. Question: Did the discretionary leave prohibit you from studying?PSW WORRIES wrote:i just finished a masters degree programme and during the programme, 10 months i was on appeal, in the 10th month , i won the appeal, but immigration officer gave me discretionary leave , instead of student visa, for just one month.
Went back to my country to re apply to complete dissertation in october, came back in december , with 2 months visa. Completed dissertation in feb .
Can one say I had a valid student visa during study?
nope, in fact , i was given the discretionary leave, so i can complete my studies, unfortunately i twas just for one month and i could not finish my disssertattion. I eventually went back to my country to re apply and i got a tier 4 visa to finally complete my dissertation.derlin wrote:You had valid leave in the UK called discretionary leave. Question: Did the discretionary leave prohibit you from studying?PSW WORRIES wrote:i just finished a masters degree programme and during the programme, 10 months i was on appeal, in the 10th month , i won the appeal, but immigration officer gave me discretionary leave , instead of student visa, for just one month.
Went back to my country to re apply to complete dissertation in october, came back in december , with 2 months visa. Completed dissertation in feb .
Can one say I had a valid student visa during study?
Before I respond to your question, I want to know if you left the UK before the expiry date of the one-month visa?PSW WORRIES wrote:nope, in fact , i was given the discretionary leave, so i can complete my studies, unfortunately i twas just for one month and i could not finish my disssertattion. I eventually went back to my country to re apply and i got a tier 4 visa to finally complete my dissertation.derlin wrote:You had valid leave in the UK called discretionary leave. Question: Did the discretionary leave prohibit you from studying?PSW WORRIES wrote:i just finished a masters degree programme and during the programme, 10 months i was on appeal, in the 10th month , i won the appeal, but immigration officer gave me discretionary leave , instead of student visa, for just one month.
Went back to my country to re apply to complete dissertation in october, came back in december , with 2 months visa. Completed dissertation in feb .
Can one say I had a valid student visa during study?
will this count against my application for PSW?
If I understand you well, you have two options: pursuing the appeal or applying for PSW. Have you already launched the appeal?PSW WORRIES wrote:yes, i left before visa expired and i applied from my home country to come back to finish my dissertation.
Got the visa ( 2 months this time ).
Finished my dissertation in Feb and visa was expiring, so I applied for renewal to complete ACCA.
I was refused because HO said i did not have established presence.
I was given opportunity to appeal. I also have option of applying for PSW because my Msc results are out, but that will be an out of time application.
Before taking such a risk, i wanted to be sure there will be no grounds for refusal of the PSW.
my leave has expired.derlin wrote:If I understand you well, you have two options: pursuing the appeal or applying for PSW. Have you already launched the appeal?PSW WORRIES wrote:yes, i left before visa expired and i applied from my home country to come back to finish my dissertation.
Got the visa ( 2 months this time ).
Finished my dissertation in Feb and visa was expiring, so I applied for renewal to complete ACCA.
I was refused because HO said i did not have established presence.
I was given opportunity to appeal. I also have option of applying for PSW because my Msc results are out, but that will be an out of time application.
Before taking such a risk, i wanted to be sure there will be no grounds for refusal of the PSW.
If I were you, I will apply for PSW visa before your current leave expires. However, there are successful cases of out-of-time PSW applications on this forum.
Your discretionary leave has little or no adverse impact on your PSW application especially if you apply before your current leave expires.
The HO obviously erred my giving me a discretionary leave, instead of a student visa, as instructed by the judge. when u have discretionary leave, u cannot switch to tier 4 or PSW, hence my going back home to apply.quantum1 wrote:14. An applicant will have an established presence studying in the UK if the applicant has current entry clearance, leave to enter or leave to remain as a Tier 4 migrant, Student or as a Postgraduate Doctor or Dentist and at the date of application:
(i) has finished a single course that was at least six months long within the applicant's last period of entry clearance, leave to enter or leave to remain, or
(ii) is applying for continued study on a single course where the applicant has completed at least six months of that course.
The 10 months that you were waiting on appeal should be treated as a continuation of your tier 4 visa. However, do you feel you meet the requirements of the criteria above defining established presence. You definitely do not meet criteria (i). But you have not given sufficient
detail to determine if you meet criteria (ii)
The HO obviously erred my giving me a discretionary leave, instead of a student visa, as instructed by the judge. when u have discretionary leave, u cannot switch to tier 4 or PSW, hence my going back home to apply.quantum1 wrote:14. An applicant will have an established presence studying in the UK if the applicant has current entry clearance, leave to enter or leave to remain as a Tier 4 migrant, Student or as a Postgraduate Doctor or Dentist and at the date of application:
(i) has finished a single course that was at least six months long within the applicant's last period of entry clearance, leave to enter or leave to remain, or
(ii) is applying for continued study on a single course where the applicant has completed at least six months of that course.
The 10 months that you were waiting on appeal should be treated as a continuation of your tier 4 visa. However, do you feel you meet the requirements of the criteria above defining established presence. You definitely do not meet criteria (i). But you have not given sufficient
detail to determine if you meet criteria (ii)