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tuesday13
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Irish Citizenship or Permanent Residence.

Post by tuesday13 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:49 pm

Good afternoon all.

My wife is non EU, me EU
We arrived to Ireland in 2005.
She had 1 year, then 1 year, then 5 year resident stamp 4 EUFAM.
Current 5 year stamp is to expire in February 2013.
She had stamp 4 for entire period of nearly 7 years bar 9 months processing times.
According to INIS calculator she would qualify for Irish Citizenship.
Question.
Can she apply straight away for citizenship.?
Or first she has to apply for PR then citizenship.
She has been working 6 years out of 7, being on social for 10 months.

Cheers !

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Post by IQU » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:54 pm

she can apply for irish citizenship now. she maybe lucky get her decsion within 6 months. www.inis.gov.ie citizenship section you will find the more information

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Re: Irish Citizenship or Permanent Residence.

Post by walrusgumble » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:58 am

tuesday13 wrote:Good afternoon all.

My wife is non EU, me EU
We arrived to Ireland in 2005.
She had 1 year, then 1 year, then 5 year resident stamp 4 EUFAM.
Current 5 year stamp is to expire in February 2013.
She had stamp 4 for entire period of nearly 7 years bar 9 months processing times.
According to INIS calculator she would qualify for Irish Citizenship.
Question.
Can she apply straight away for citizenship.?
Or first she has to apply for PR then citizenship.
She has been working 6 years out of 7, being on social for 10 months.

Cheers !
There are separate applications, separate laws. One is Citizenship of Ireland (nothing to do with EU law), the other, PR, is Residency under EU law (Irish PR is not available for people already holding stamp 4 of some sort)

You can apply for both , I would not be so optimistic about the 6 month wait. It might / will be more. They are not reliant on each other.

So long as the EU citizen exercised their EU rights (Article 7) for a continuous period of 5 years (what the non EU person did is irrelevant) then the non eu person will get PR.

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Post by tuesday13 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:26 am

WG,
I understand they are separate applications/laws.
I do not see point applying for PR if she can apply for Irish Citizenship straight away.
And with luck she may get it within 6 months .

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Social

Post by Irisheddy » Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:11 pm

I think being on Social may go against her based on previous cases.

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Post by tuesday13 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:55 pm

Irisheddy,
Can you tell me what you mean ?
She was on socilal, lost a job, now she is back to full employment, been working 6 out of last 7 years.
Why would that matter if she was entitled to it while looking for a job ?
Any link you have ?

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Re: Social

Post by walrusgumble » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:49 pm

Irisheddy wrote:I think being on Social may go against her based on previous cases.
If within the last 3 years, then yes.

Hence PR might be relevant

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Post by walrusgumble » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:51 pm

tuesday13 wrote:Irisheddy,
Can you tell me what you mean ?
She was on socilal, lost a job, now she is back to full employment, been working 6 out of last 7 years.
Why would that matter if she was entitled to it while looking for a job ?
Any link you have ?
For Irish Citizenship, you should not have claimed social for 3 years immediately prior to the application.

But, each case may have different circumstances

eg Length of legal time here vs length of time actually legally working

Length of time working v length of time out of work

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Post by tuesday13 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:32 pm

For Irish Citizenship, you should not have claimed social for 3 years immediately prior to the application.

But, each case may have different circumstances

eg Length of legal time here vs length of time actually legally working
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Low life !!!!
WG,

If I can recall you`ve been the best bullshiter ...few years back,,,,,
still is...LOW LIFE dearly beloved FU%%%K. !!!!

You and your crew can go to hell and f""k yourself, dont need your HELP
Have a good weekend !!!

I`ll get THE BEST lawyer to sort this out....

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Post by tuesday13 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:01 pm

Apologies to all good members ..

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