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FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:52 pm

Hello, my wife got her first Leave to Enter issued from 12 May 21 (even though BRP issue date says 5 May 21 - so a little confusing) to 12 Feb 24.

She arrived in the UK on 12 Jul 21 and now we are planning her FLR (M) application.

Since she has been here, we have had 1 together child (British passport holder).

My questions are:
1. Given the recent announcement of upcoming massive fee increases that vinny kindly linked to announces/fees-2018-t228357.html - is there anyway I can start or pay for my application or IHS fee early? :D
2. Given only 28 days transfer over and in view of making sure we have enough days for ILR, shall I aim to submit the application on exactly 16 January 2024 - as the most optimal?
3. Given we had the baby, does it change anything for the requirements? The only thing I can understand is that the minimum financial requirement is now slightly higher because we have another dependent, but everything else should remain unchanged and we don't need to do a seperate application for the baby because she is British already right?

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:41 am

777GE90 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:52 pm
Hello, my wife got her first Leave to Enter issued from 12 May 21 (even though BRP issue date says 5 May 21 - so a little confusing) to 12 Feb 24.

She arrived in the UK on 12 Jul 21 and now we are planning her FLR (M) application.

Since she has been here, we have had 1 together child (British passport holder).

My questions are:
1. Given the recent announcement of upcoming massive fee increases that vinny kindly linked to announces/fees-2018-t228357.html - is there anyway I can start or pay for my application or IHS fee early? :D No
2. Given only 28 days transfer over and in view of making sure we have enough days for ILR, shall I aim to submit the application on exactly 16 January 2024 - as the most optimal? With her entry 12 July 2021, 30months minus 28days means She can submit 15 December 2023
3. Given we had the baby, does it change anything for the requirements? The only thing I can understand is that the minimum financial requirement is now slightly higher because we have another dependent, but everything else should remain unchanged and we don't need to do a seperate application for the baby because she is British already right? You indicated baby is British so minimum financial requirements does not increase because of baby abd no applicationto be made for baby.

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by 777GE90 » Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:12 am

Thank you very helpful.

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:31 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:41 am
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:52 pm
Hello, my wife got her first Leave to Enter issued from 12 May 21 (even though BRP issue date says 5 May 21 - so a little confusing) to 12 Feb 24.

She arrived in the UK on 12 Jul 21 and now we are planning her FLR (M) application.

Since she has been here, we have had 1 together child (British passport holder).

My questions are:
1. Given the recent announcement of upcoming massive fee increases that vinny kindly linked to announces/fees-2018-t228357.html - is there anyway I can start or pay for my application or IHS fee early? :D No
2. Given only 28 days transfer over and in view of making sure we have enough days for ILR, shall I aim to submit the application on exactly 16 January 2024 - as the most optimal? With her entry 12 July 2021, 30months minus 28days means She can submit 15 December 2023
3. Given we had the baby, does it change anything for the requirements? The only thing I can understand is that the minimum financial requirement is now slightly higher because we have another dependent, but everything else should remain unchanged and we don't need to do a seperate application for the baby because she is British already right? You indicated baby is British so minimum financial requirements does not increase because of baby abd no applicationto be made for baby.
A follow up question for this, if she applies on 15 Dec 2023 for example, only 28 days of her existing stay will be transferred onto the new visa, so she would end up with nearly a month less on her next visa right?

So if I work this out correct:
- She applies 15 Dec 2023 + 28 days = 12 Jan 2024
- 12 Jan 2024 + 30 months on the new visa = 12 July 2026

12 July 2021 to 12 July 2026 = exactly the 5 years required for ILR.

So when she applies for ILR, she can apply 28 days before 12 July 2026 which is 14 June 2026.c So should be perfectly fine as you mention.

However, if I apply after 15 Jan, she will have 1 extra month on her next visa and it just gives her a bit more time to apply for ILR (I guess a couple months)?

I am thinking of applying later around 15 Jan for this reason - do you see any disadvantages to doing this?

One thing I did notice is the IHS fees and visa fees have not seemingly gone up yet, perhaps they will after the new year so for that reason I may be better to apply before, but I don't know exactly when they will go up.

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:10 pm

Ihs free increasing mid January 2024.

announces/fees-2018-t228357.html#p2135163
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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:25 pm

777GE90 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:31 pm
AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:41 am
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:52 pm
Hello, my wife got her first Leave to Enter issued from 12 May 21 (even though BRP issue date says 5 May 21 - so a little confusing) to 12 Feb 24.

She arrived in the UK on 12 Jul 21 and now we are planning her FLR (M) application.

Since she has been here, we have had 1 together child (British passport holder).

My questions are:
1. Given the recent announcement of upcoming massive fee increases that vinny kindly linked to announces/fees-2018-t228357.html - is there anyway I can start or pay for my application or IHS fee early? :D No
2. Given only 28 days transfer over and in view of making sure we have enough days for ILR, shall I aim to submit the application on exactly 16 January 2024 - as the most optimal? With her entry 12 July 2021, 30months minus 28days means She can submit 15 December 2023
3. Given we had the baby, does it change anything for the requirements? The only thing I can understand is that the minimum financial requirement is now slightly higher because we have another dependent, but everything else should remain unchanged and we don't need to do a seperate application for the baby because she is British already right? You indicated baby is British so minimum financial requirements does not increase because of baby abd no applicationto be made for baby.
A follow up question for this, if she applies on 15 Dec 2023 for example, only 28 days of her existing stay will be transferred onto the new visa, so she would end up with nearly a month less on her next visa right?

So if I work this out correct:
- She applies 15 Dec 2023 + 28 days = 12 Jan 2024
- 12 Jan 2024 + 30 months on the new visa = 12 July 2026

12 July 2021 to 12 July 2026 = exactly the 5 years required for ILR.

So when she applies for ILR, she can apply 28 days before 12 July 2026 which is 14 June 2026.c So should be perfectly fine as you mention.

However, if I apply after 15 Jan, she will have 1 extra month on her next visa and it just gives her a bit more time to apply for ILR (I guess a couple months)?

I am thinking of applying later around 15 Jan for this reason - do you see any disadvantages to doing this? If later than that you may be caught up in the planned increment of fees skated for mid January 2024.

One thing I did notice is the IHS fees and visa fees have not seemingly gone up yet, perhaps they will after the new year so for that reason I may be better to apply before, but I don't know exactly when they will go up. Will be increased in January 2024

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:07 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:25 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:31 pm
AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:41 am
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:52 pm
Hello, my wife got her first Leave to Enter issued from 12 May 21 (even though BRP issue date says 5 May 21 - so a little confusing) to 12 Feb 24.

She arrived in the UK on 12 Jul 21 and now we are planning her FLR (M) application.

Since she has been here, we have had 1 together child (British passport holder).

My questions are:
1. Given the recent announcement of upcoming massive fee increases that vinny kindly linked to announces/fees-2018-t228357.html - is there anyway I can start or pay for my application or IHS fee early? :D No
2. Given only 28 days transfer over and in view of making sure we have enough days for ILR, shall I aim to submit the application on exactly 16 January 2024 - as the most optimal? With her entry 12 July 2021, 30months minus 28days means She can submit 15 December 2023
3. Given we had the baby, does it change anything for the requirements? The only thing I can understand is that the minimum financial requirement is now slightly higher because we have another dependent, but everything else should remain unchanged and we don't need to do a seperate application for the baby because she is British already right? You indicated baby is British so minimum financial requirements does not increase because of baby abd no applicationto be made for baby.
A follow up question for this, if she applies on 15 Dec 2023 for example, only 28 days of her existing stay will be transferred onto the new visa, so she would end up with nearly a month less on her next visa right?

So if I work this out correct:
- She applies 15 Dec 2023 + 28 days = 12 Jan 2024
- 12 Jan 2024 + 30 months on the new visa = 12 July 2026

12 July 2021 to 12 July 2026 = exactly the 5 years required for ILR.

So when she applies for ILR, she can apply 28 days before 12 July 2026 which is 14 June 2026.c So should be perfectly fine as you mention.

However, if I apply after 15 Jan, she will have 1 extra month on her next visa and it just gives her a bit more time to apply for ILR (I guess a couple months)?

I am thinking of applying later around 15 Jan for this reason - do you see any disadvantages to doing this? If later than that you may be caught up in the planned increment of fees skated for mid January 2024.

One thing I did notice is the IHS fees and visa fees have not seemingly gone up yet, perhaps they will after the new year so for that reason I may be better to apply before, but I don't know exactly when they will go up. Will be increased in January 2024
Good point, do you know for sure it will be around mid jan that they will increase the prices? I have been trying to find this information but couldn't find any concrete source.

I think I am going to target sending the application before 31 Dec. My employer will give my payslip on 20 Dec and I just sent them a request now to send me proof of payslips between 20 - 31 Dec so I can get this application submitted as soon as I get it from them.

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Re: FLR (M) Planning Costs and Timelines

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:24 am

You even have the Mod sending the announcement earlier to you and have no reason to doubt as earlier ones turned out just like such.
The most concrete source most do get is by the time its implemented.
No need to rush sending it off too early, remember that you can submit online ans still book appointment for after the due date or in this case after the implementation date.

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Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:15 pm

I am looking to apply for FLR(M) for my wife within the next month and wanted to make sure I have all the correct documents for the application.

My wife is on the standard 5 year route and we should meet all the requirements, including the financial requirement through my full time job. We have been on two short holidays during the time and we also have a British passport holding baby.

Here is what I am planning to provide:
- 2 years of cohabitation documents (some will be from online bills)
- 6 months payslips from my employer, certified by my employer
- 6 months bank statements, certified by bank
- P60 (I understand this is optional, so will only provide it if I get it in time)
- My employement contract
- A letter from my employer confirming all the required details and that the payslips are genuine
- My British Passport (scan of every page) as proof of my immigration status
- Evidence of monthly housing costs for accomdation in the UK (can I give mortgage statements covering the last 1 year, or do I need to cover the entire 2.5 years?)
- Council tax bills
- My wifes BRP card
- My wifes passport
- B1 test unique reference number from Trinity College (I guess we don't need the certifcate, just the number right?)
- A cover letter from my husband explaining why he cannot establish a private life outside the UK.
- Third party consent declarations signed
- Baby birth certificate
- Baby passport (if this is not required, shall I leave this out)

Additional Evidence (not sure if I need to provide these or whether I will be able to provide these):
- WhatsApp chats of last 2.5 years
- Some photos of us together
- Marriage certificate
- Land registry copy of register of title

Finally, I was a little confused when I found this document saying passport photos are required in section 9, my understanding is that this is now out of date and signed passport photos are no longer required?
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _11-14.pdf

Can I ask someone please kindly look at this and let me know if there is anything obvious that is missing?

Also, are documents not attached to the application itself? Is every single document always submitted through a UKVI center?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:00 am

Another question, if I submit the application on 10 Jan for example and the biometrics appointment for documents is on 5 Feb, does that mean I still have to give payslips and bank statements from December minus 6 months or do I also need to get payslips for January as well?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:05 am

December. Your documents must be dated on or before the date you apply online.
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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:43 pm

777GE90 wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:15 pm
I am looking to apply for FLR(M) for my wife within the next month and wanted to make sure I have all the correct documents for the application.

My wife is on the standard 5 year route and we should meet all the requirements, including the financial requirement through my full time job. We have been on two short holidays during the time and we also have a British passport holding baby.

Here is what I am planning to provide:
- 2 years of cohabitation documents (some will be from online bills)
- 6 months payslips from my employer, certified by my employer
- 6 months bank statements, certified by bank
- P60 (I understand this is optional, so will only provide it if I get it in time) Not required.
- My employement contract Not required.
- A letter from my employer confirming all the required details and that the payslips are genuine
- My British Passport (scan of every page) as proof of my immigration status
- Evidence of monthly housing costs for accomdation in the UK (can I give mortgage statements covering the last 1 year, or do I need to cover the entire 2.5 years?)
- Council tax bills
- My wifes BRP card
- My wifes passport
- B1 test unique reference number from Trinity College (I guess we don't need the certifcate, just the number right?)
- A cover letter from my husband explaining why he cannot establish a private life outside the UK.
- Third party consent declarations signed
- Baby birth certificate
- Baby passport (if this is not required, shall I leave this out)

Additional Evidence (not sure if I need to provide these or whether I will be able to provide these):
- WhatsApp chats of last 2.5 years Not required.
- Some photos of us together Not required.
- Marriage certificate
- Land registry copy of register of title

Finally, I was a little confused when I found this document saying passport photos are required in section 9, my understanding is that this is now out of date and signed passport photos are no longer required? Digital Photos and fingerprints are done at the UKCVAS Biometric Appointment.
Signed photos was never a requirement, it was simply passport size photos back then, no signing.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _11-14.pdf

Can I ask someone please kindly look at this and let me know if there is anything obvious that is missing? You have attached a lot of unnecessary stuff, indicated in red above.

Also, are documents not attached to the application itself? Is every single document always submitted through a UKVI center? Once you submit and pay online, you will be directed to UKCVAS (a third party agent) to upload documents and book your appointment for biometrics.
Digital Photos and fingerprints are done at the UKCVAS Biometric Appointment.
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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:24 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:43 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:15 pm
I am looking to apply for FLR(M) for my wife within the next month and wanted to make sure I have all the correct documents for the application.

My wife is on the standard 5 year route and we should meet all the requirements, including the financial requirement through my full time job. We have been on two short holidays during the time and we also have a British passport holding baby.

Here is what I am planning to provide:
- 2 years of cohabitation documents (some will be from online bills)
- 6 months payslips from my employer, certified by my employer
- 6 months bank statements, certified by bank
- P60 (I understand this is optional, so will only provide it if I get it in time) Not required.
- My employement contract Not required.
- A letter from my employer confirming all the required details and that the payslips are genuine
- My British Passport (scan of every page) as proof of my immigration status
- Evidence of monthly housing costs for accomdation in the UK (can I give mortgage statements covering the last 1 year, or do I need to cover the entire 2.5 years?)
- Council tax bills
- My wifes BRP card
- My wifes passport
- B1 test unique reference number from Trinity College (I guess we don't need the certifcate, just the number right?)
- A cover letter from my husband explaining why he cannot establish a private life outside the UK.
- Third party consent declarations signed
- Baby birth certificate
- Baby passport (if this is not required, shall I leave this out)

Additional Evidence (not sure if I need to provide these or whether I will be able to provide these):
- WhatsApp chats of last 2.5 years Not required.
- Some photos of us together Not required.
- Marriage certificate
- Land registry copy of register of title

Finally, I was a little confused when I found this document saying passport photos are required in section 9, my understanding is that this is now out of date and signed passport photos are no longer required? Digital Photos and fingerprints are done at the UKCVAS Biometric Appointment.
Signed photos was never a requirement, it was simply passport size photos back then, no signing.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _11-14.pdf

Can I ask someone please kindly look at this and let me know if there is anything obvious that is missing? You have attached a lot of unnecessary stuff, indicated in red above.

Also, are documents not attached to the application itself? Is every single document always submitted through a UKVI center? Once you submit and pay online, you will be directed to UKCVAS (a third party agent) to upload documents and book your appointment for biometrics.
Digital Photos and fingerprints are done at the UKCVAS Biometric Appointment.
Thank you, very helpful.

So for the document upload, is it all done online before you give the biometrics or do you have to go to the biometrics place to upload them?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by CR001 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:40 pm

You upload before biometrics.
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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:45 pm

Is a TB test required for FLR (M), if you've visited a country on the list recently?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:44 pm

777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:45 pm
Is a TB test required for FLR (M), if you've visited a country on the list recently?
Only applies if you have lives in such country for at least 6months

https://www.gov.uk/tb-test-visa

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:40 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:44 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:45 pm
Is a TB test required for FLR (M), if you've visited a country on the list recently?
Only applies if you have lives in such country for at least 6months

https://www.gov.uk/tb-test-visa
So visiting for a few weeks in the past 6 months is ok and doesn't need one?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:10 pm

777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:40 pm
AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:44 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:45 pm
Is a TB test required for FLR (M), if you've visited a country on the list recently?
Only applies if you have lives in such country for at least 6months

https://www.gov.uk/tb-test-visa
So visiting for a few weeks in the past 6 months is ok and doesn't need one?
You may want to read the link should you require further cladification

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Tue Dec 26, 2023 12:04 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 10:10 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:40 pm
AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 6:44 pm
777GE90 wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2023 5:45 pm
Is a TB test required for FLR (M), if you've visited a country on the list recently?
Only applies if you have lives in such country for at least 6months

https://www.gov.uk/tb-test-visa
So visiting for a few weeks in the past 6 months is ok and doesn't need one?
You may want to read the link should you require further cladification
Yes, I did check that link but the reason I asked was because I was a bit confused by the wording of this:
you were living there (or another listed country) within the last 6 months
Not sure what they mean by "living", whether living is counted as just visiting or not.

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by AmazonianX » Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:31 am

Did you live in such a country for 6months at least? Is applicant currently in such country or back into the UK?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:11 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:31 am
Did you live in such a country for 6months at least? Is applicant currently in such country or back into the UK?
The applicant lived in this country before her initial spouse visa. Once her spouse visa was approved, she arrived in the UK and now we are doing the FLR M extension. She has lived in the UK for the last 2.5 years, but she has visited her country of origin recently (in November), for a short 3 week period.

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:29 am

777GE90 wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:11 pm
AmazonianX wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2023 2:31 am
Did you live in such a country for 6months at least? Is applicant currently in such country or back into the UK?
The applicant lived in this country before her initial spouse visa. Once her spouse visa was approved, she arrived in the UK and now we are doing the FLR M extension. She has lived in the UK for the last 2.5 years, but she has visited her country of origin recently (in November), for a short 3 week period.
The requirements asked for LIVED not visited and the duration also was stated!
From your narratives this does not apply to applicant.

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Document Translation

Post by 777GE90 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:49 pm

When we submitted our original spouse visa application from outside the UK, the marriage document we submitted was available in both languages, the english translated one has the company name, location and phone number of the people who translated it at the bottom. The document is also signed and stamped by some authority.

I was thinking of resubmitting the same documents as they are, however I just noticed this in Appendix FM-SE:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... d-evidence
(j) Where any specified documents provided are not in English or Welsh, the applicant must provide document in the original language and a full translation that can be independently verified by the Entry Clearance Officer, Immigration Officer or the Secretary of State. The translation must be dated and include:
(i) confirmation that it is an accurate translation of the document;
(ii) the full name and signature of the translator or an authorised official of the translation company;
(iii) the translator or translation company’s contact details; and
(iv) if the applicant is applying for leave to remain or indefinite leave to remain, certification by a qualified translator and details of the translator or translation company’s credentials.
I noticed we do not have things like an accompanying document to say who translated it or certified it, e.g. point (iv). So my question is, is there additional requirements for the marriage documents translation to be certified in the extension application (i.e. do I need to get it translated again) OR am I safe to assume that I can resubmit the exact same marriage documents and translations considering they were already accepted in the original spouse visa application?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by 777GE90 » Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:00 pm

Nevermind, I ended up paying to get a certified translation.

I had another question, in regards to bank statements to prove salary. I went to Barclays today and they only let me print 4 months worth of certified statements instead of 6, when I asked they said I could instead just search for transaction dates and they can print out certification for transaction dates for all 6 months.

So now I basically have the last 4 statements certified by Barclays and another document which has all transactions for last 6 months, which is also certified, but it is not showing month by month statements, just all transactions.

I am wondering:
1. Is certified statements even required?
2. I am thinking of sending them the 4 certified statements and remaining 2 statements uncertified and then also attaching the certified document showing all transactions for the 6 months, just to make sure every transaction for last 6 months is certified and be extra safe. Do you think this is ok?

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Re: Applying for FLR(M) Required Documents

Post by Ticktack » Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:27 pm

777GE90 wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:00 pm
Nevermind, I ended up paying to get a certified translation.

I had another question, in regards to bank statements to prove salary. I went to Barclays today and they only let me print 4 months worth of certified statements instead of 6, when I asked they said I could instead just search for transaction dates and they can print out certification for transaction dates for all 6 months.

So now I basically have the last 4 statements certified by Barclays and another document which has all transactions for last 6 months, which is also certified, but it is not showing month by month statements, just all transactions.

I am wondering:
1. Is certified statements even required? Nope, The online copy would have done just fine.
2. I am thinking of sending them the 4 certified statements and remaining 2 statements uncertified and then also attaching the certified document showing all transactions for the 6 months, just to make sure every transaction for last 6 months is certified and be extra safe. Do you think this is ok?
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