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Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:25 pm
by screenprint
One of my friend went to the PEO on 16/04/2016 ( Saturday Premium Service, Crodyon )

His ILR Was refused for less tax paid than what declare to the home office in his initial application 2011. ( Basically £5000 Difference )

He applied on 10 Year ILR route but still get refused. He is waiting for HMRC to Update their Record. It being 5 months since he send for the amendment but still no answer from HMRC.

Question: Can he apply again tomorrow by post with his family, in order to keep his 3C leave as his visa expire in few days. Even there is a 50/50 chances that the result will be the same but at-least he will keep his 3C leave rights. I have come to know that 3C does not apply any more if you have valid visa even for few days. I have advise him to apply by post again for the same application (10 year ilr ) at-least in this way he will keep his working rights and 3C will also apply to him untill all his appeal rights are exhausted.

They have given him a admin review but no appeal rights, my understanding is that you do get a appeal right with 10 year ILR or they have change the policy recently or this is due to deception imposed.

Please any urgent help in this matter will be really appreciated. As my Friend have only few days left.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:51 pm
by screenprint
Any one Please !

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:00 pm
by geriatrix
26 minutes and already jumpy!

People will respond if and when they wish to.
So be patient!!

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:30 pm
by screenprint
244 View and no Reply ! I am know jumpy !

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:07 pm
by Nagra
hi
what have yu amended SA302(personal tax) OR business tax (ct60)
thanks

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:12 pm
by Wanderer
screenprint wrote:244 View and no Reply ! I am know jumpy !
Whats the reason for the £5k discrepancy?

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 10:13 pm
by blueskiiiyy
screenprint wrote:One of my friend went to the PEO on 16/04/2016 ( Saturday Premium Service, Crodyon )

His ILR Was refused for less tax paid than what declare to the home office in his initial application 2011. ( Basically £5000 Difference )

He applied on 10 Year ILR route but still get refused. He is waiting for HMRC to Update their Record. It being 5 months since he send for the amendment but still no answer from HMRC.

Question: Can he apply again tomorrow by post with his family, in order to keep his 3C leave as his visa expire in few days. Even there is a 50/50 chances that the result will be the same but at-least he will keep his 3C leave rights. I have come to know that 3C does not apply any more if you have valid visa even for few days. I have advise him to apply by post again for the same application (10 year ilr ) at-least in this way he will keep his working rights and 3C will also apply to him untill all his appeal rights are exhausted.

They have given him a admin review but no appeal rights, my understanding is that you do get a appeal right with 10 year ILR or they have change the policy recently or this is due to deception imposed.

Please any urgent help in this matter will be really appreciated. As my Friend have only few days left.
There are no appeal rights when you have leave to remain at the date of decision.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:44 am
by screenprint
My Friend only amend the SA302 as he work self employed but the amend is still in process.

He have some loses in 2011 after visa but rather than explaining loses he decided to pay the full tax so no question can be asked but still refused.

SO Should He apply again to get the Section 3C ? 10 year ilr do come with appeal right ?

Correct me if I am wrong.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:49 am
by Immigrantshimmigrant
screenprint wrote:My Friend only amend the SA302 as he work self employed but the amend is still in process.

He have some loses in 2011 after visa but rather than explaining loses he decided to pay the full tax so no question can be asked but still refused.

SO Should He apply again to get the Section 3C ? 10 year ilr do come with appeal right ?

Correct me if I am wrong.
Did he show any proof that amendment was in process? Any letter from HMRC?

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:30 pm
by kashiuk1
screenprint wrote:One of my friend went to the PEO on 16/04/2016 ( Saturday Premium Service, Crodyon )

His ILR Was refused for less tax paid than what declare to the home office in his initial application 2011. ( Basically £5000 Difference )

He applied on 10 Year ILR route but still get refused. He is waiting for HMRC to Update their Record. It being 5 months since he send for the amendment but still no answer from HMRC.

Question: Can he apply again tomorrow by post with his family, in order to keep his 3C leave as his visa expire in few days. Even there is a 50/50 chances that the result will be the same but at-least he will keep his 3C leave rights. I have come to know that 3C does not apply any more if you have valid visa even for few days. I have advise him to apply by post again for the same application (10 year ilr ) at-least in this way he will keep his working rights and 3C will also apply to him untill all his appeal rights are exhausted.

They have given him a admin review but no appeal rights, my understanding is that you do get a appeal right with 10 year ILR or they have change the policy recently or this is due to deception imposed.

Please any urgent help in this matter will be really appreciated. As my Friend have only few days left.
Apply by post before your leave expire

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:45 am
by aamirwani
screenprint wrote:My Friend only amend the SA302 as he work self employed but the amend is still in process.

He have some loses in 2011 after visa but rather than explaining loses he decided to pay the full tax so no question can be asked but still refused.

SO Should He apply again to get the Section 3C ? 10 year ilr do come with appeal right ?

Correct me if I am wrong.
didn't your friend disclose to HO that he has requested for amendment for that tax year.
was he asked to fill a form for the years he was self emplyed? did he disclose it there that he has requested for amendment..

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:16 am
by screenprint
No He did not said any thing and also he was confused what he have written on the form.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:10 pm
by physicskate
In that case, there was use of deception - that is going to be nigh on impossible to escape once that assumption has been made!

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:27 pm
by Casa
physicskate wrote:In that case, there was use of deception - that is going to be nigh on impossible to escape once that assumption has been made!
I agree. It appears that he made a false statement on the form.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:32 pm
by Obie
There should have been an appeal right under refusal of ILR long residence. He should challenge this, and then fight the ILR refusal. Does her have children? if so, how old are they?

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:18 pm
by geriatrix
Apologies for using this topic to ask a question, but I hope the answer will be useful to others reading this topic.

Obie,
If the applicant's extant leave is still valid, will a refusal of ILR LR application still lead to right of appeal being granted?

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:34 pm
by Obie
Yes. With the ammendment of section 82 of the Nationality and Immigration Act 2002, they removed the condition that a person will only have an appeal right if as a result of the refusal, they are left with no leave.

That requirement has been removed.

Now we have refusal of human right claim which carries a right of appeal , unless a certificate is issued.

The Home office issued a guidance confirming that a refusal of ILR under long residence is a human right refusal which will result in a right of appeal unless a certificate is issued.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:42 pm
by geriatrix
Thanks, Obie.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:18 pm
by Obie
Paragraph 9 of their Guidance may assist.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:24 pm
by screenprint
In this situation does 3C also Extend ?

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:57 pm
by Modenine
Please can anyone direct me to a good immigration lawyer. I have read from previous posts thats there a good one around covent gardens. ILR refused due to tax issues. thanks

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:59 am
by shanuk
Dear All,

Please provide details on below link:

http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... l#p1359302

Thanks

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:13 pm
by b52
hi.
ilr refused due to income issues. 10 years long residence. appeal submitted on 28 April 2016. upto today to reply yet. does anyone know how long is to wait. please share your views.

Re: Urgent Help Needed ! ILR Refused. Deception Imposed

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:18 pm
by Casa
Modenine wrote:Please can anyone direct me to a good immigration lawyer. I have read from previous posts thats there a good one around covent gardens. ILR refused due to tax issues. thanks
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