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tier 1 valid

Post by rajap21 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:16 pm

Hello,

I am currently having tier 1 general visa valid for till 2012. Due to the circumstances, my company planning to process WP.

My query is whether WP will overide my tier 1 general visa? or still tier 1 is valid?

Thanks,
Raja Periannan

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Re: tier 1 valid

Post by tvn_ramesh » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:18 pm

rajap21 wrote:Hello,

I am currently having tier 1 general visa valid for till 2012. Due to the circumstances, my company planning to process WP.

My query is whether WP will overide my tier 1 general visa? or still tier 1 is valid?

Thanks,
Raja Periannan
EDITED..

Inform your company you have Tier1(G) and you are ready to go and work in UK..

This will save lotz of time and money for your company..
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Post by aruni4470 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:34 pm

Hi Tvn,

I remember Sushdmehta has provided us with a link stating that a person can hold different kinds of visas?

Will Tier 2 override tier 1 because they are both work category visas?

No offence meant just wanted to know little more about it.

Thanks

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:38 pm

aruni4470 wrote:Hi Tvn,

I remember Sushdmehta has provided us with a link stating that a person can hold different kinds of visas?

Will Tier 2 override tier 1 because they are both work category visas?

No offence meant just wanted to know little more about it.

Thanks
Aruni..

yes i remember SUSH's msg.. let me check it again..


Thanks for pointing that.. if he can than i stand corrected for sure..

Point taken in right spirit..

Cheers

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:45 pm

Only point i am sure his Tier1(G) Visa will be overridden by Tier2(G) because:

1. Both are Visa's to work and live in UK
2. With Tier2(G) You can work only for the employer who provided you with CoS and SLicense;
3. In point 2 he can work based on the Working and Conditions
4. I think the point mentioned by Sush works well for Businessvisa or General/Visitor visa along with Tier1/Tier2...

I will wait for other seniors to comment on this..

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Post by aruni4470 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:56 pm

tvn_ramesh wrote:Only point i am sure his Tier1(G) Visa will be overridden by Tier2(G) because:

1. Both are Visa's to work and live in UK
2. With Tier2(G) You can work only for the employer who provided you with CoS and SLicense;
3. In point 2 he can work based on the Working and Conditions
4. I think the point mentioned by Sush works well for Businessvisa or General/Visitor visa along with Tier1/Tier2...

I will wait for other seniors to comment on this..
Thanks TVN.

@ rajap21
As Tvn_ramesh advised, if your company is OK with your Tier 1, it would save time. But, some companies may be concerned that if you are on Tier1, you could search for a better opportunity in UK and ditch them.

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Post by rajap21 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:03 pm

Yah bcoz of this reason. My company is processing Tier 2 general.

One of my senior folk replied as mentioned below

"At immigration you have to inform the officer on which visa you are making an entry on, Tier-1general or Tier -2 general? He/She will stamp that visa; your other visa will still remain valid."


Please comment on this. And suggest whether tier -1 general will be remain valid or not?

Thanks,
Raja Periannan

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:34 pm

Looking for this?
ECB10.5 Applying for another visa but in a different category wrote:An applicant may hold more than one valid entry clearance, for example a regular traveller already holding a longer period multiple visit visa can be issued with a visa for another purpose. When issuing a second visa, the applicant should be advised to explain to the Immigration Officer on arrival in which capacity he/she is seeking entry to the UK.
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Post by geriatrix » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:41 pm

tvn_ramesh wrote:Only point i am sure his Tier1(G) Visa will be overridden by Tier2(G) because:

1. Both are Visa's to work and live in UK
2. With Tier2(G) You can work only for the employer who provided you with CoS and SLicense;
3. In point 2 he can work based on the Working and Conditions
4. I think the point mentioned by Sush works well for Businessvisa or General/Visitor visa along with Tier1/Tier2...

I will wait for other seniors to comment on this..
My two cents - on how it will work (based on my understanding of ECB10.5:

Assuming an individual has both Tier 1 (General) and Tier 2 (General) visas in his passport:
Scenario 1
1. Upon entry to UK, the individual gets IO to stamp the Tier 2 (General) visa with date of entry.
2. Having entered UK as Tier 2 (General) migrant, the individual works (only) for the licensed employer during his stay in UK.
3. If the individual changes employment (as a Tier 1 migrant with no sponsorship required), he will have to fly to his home country and fly back to UK and upon entry get the IO to stamp Tier 1 (general) visa with date of entry.
4. Having entered (this time) as Tier 1 (General) migrant, he is free to work for any employer.
Scenario 2
1. Upon entry to UK, the individual gets IO to stamp the Tier 1 (General) visa with date of entry.
2. Having entered UK as Tier 1 (General) migrant, the individual works in the UK for any employer that he chooses.
3. If the individual changes employment (under sponsorship by a licensed sponsor) he will have to fly to his home country and fly back to UK and upon entry get the IO to stamp Tier 2 (general) visa with date of entry.
4. Having entered (this time) as Tier 2 (General) migrant, he is authorised to work with only his licensed sponsor.

Reality check:
1. If an employer sponsors an individual on Tier 2, it will be wrong for the applicant not to use the sponsorship and not enter UK as Tier 2 migrant because by not doing so he will be risking the credibility of his employer in the eyes of UKBA as a genuine sponsor applying for Tier 2 sponsorships. e.g. - employer sponsors Tier 2 but the employees never use Tier 2 visa to enter, imagine a group of employees doing so and what will UKBA think about the whole thing. Get my point??

Hope this helps.

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:45 pm

ECB10.5 applies to all categories of entry clearances (leave to enter) and not just to specific ones! Had it not been the case, the specific visa categories would have been clearly mentioned.

IMHO ...

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Post by tvn_ramesh » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:06 pm

That would be a very good news to many people.. let me edit my initial response till things are clear..

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Post by Saphira2 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:48 pm

sushdmehta,

i have a similar problem, as in i have a valid work permit + a valid tier 1 general visa.

I've entered the UK before under my work permit. my tier 1 is new, so would it be a big issue if i entered the UK under my tier 1 general visa and worked for my employee? caus under tier 1 i can work for any employer right? :)


would appreciate your thoughts

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One can have more than one valid EC

Post by harpaldhillon » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:40 pm

13. Is there a limit to the number of student visas/tourist visas/work permits etc. that an individual may hold?

There is no limit and an applicant may hold more than one valid entry clearance, eg a regular traveler already holding a two or five year multiple visit visa can be issued with an entry clearance for a short term work permit.
Each application is treated individually.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 60we04.htm

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Post by geriatrix » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:23 pm

ECB10.5 (quoted above) has been replaced with this new instruction:
Can I have more than one visa? wrote:It is not possible to hold more than one visa or entry clearance. If your circumstances change you should always inform the Home Office before you leave the UK so that your permission to stay can be curtailed. Once your permission to stay has been curtailed you will be able to apply for a new visa overseas.

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