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Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by rgupta » Sat Aug 31, 2019 5:42 pm

Thank you very much, thats useful. I would also like to check if I got my ILR on 17th Sept last year, the date I should click 'Pay' in the naturalisation application would be on 17th Sept 2019 itself (I was in the UK on 17th Sept 2014)?

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Hi
I am applying for naturalisation next month and have 3 questions if anyone could please help.

1. I would like to check for the 'Immigration details' section where it asks 'Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard'? What does this really mena? Does that need to include Tier 2 visa details and Tier 4 before I had my ILR from 2018?

2. If i've run out of space in the 'Trips outside the UK section' where's best to insert this information'?

3. Lastly one of my referees is in Switzerland (but British) would that be an issue?

Many thanks
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1. ALL visa applications you have made as the question asks.

2. Excel schedule and upload with documents.

3. No as long as they meet the requirements.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Rollingcabbage » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:21 am

hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
i thought the same.

they could have designed a better form , maybe give the route option instead?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:28 am

Rollingcabbage wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:21 am
hereorthere wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:48 am
Ok thank you for the advice. However you would think that they would make it possible not to have to lie on the form!!
i thought the same.

they could have designed a better form , maybe give the route option instead?
The route is irrelevant. The degree question is only relevant to meeting the English requirement, if applicable, as the form and guidance clearly state. HO really don't care about your qualifications for the purpose of citizenship.
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What counts as "application received by the Home Office"

Post by Annavivas » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:40 pm

Hi all,

I am an EU citizen with permanent residency since 2016 applying for naturalisation. I am trying to figure out when I can submit my application. The Guide AN Naturalisation booklet states:

"You must have been physically present in England, Wales, Scotland, Northern
Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands on the day 5 years before the
application is received by the Home Office
".

Back in Autumn 2014 I travelled quite a lot for work and was in and out of country. Not to breach the above rule I have to figure out if "application is received by the Home Office" is when I submit my online application, or the moment I attend the UKVCAS appointment to enrol biometrics etc.

Could anyone help with this please?

Thanks!

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Re: What counts as "application received by the Home Office"

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:23 pm

Annavivas wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:40 pm
Hi all,

I am an EU citizen with permanent residency since 2016 applying for naturalisation. I am trying to figure out when I can submit my application. The Guide AN Naturalisation booklet states:

"You must have been physically present in England, Wales, Scotland, Northern
Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands on the day 5 years before the
application is received by the Home Office
".

Back in Autumn 2014 I travelled quite a lot for work and was in and out of country. Not to breach the above rule I have to figure out if "application is received by the Home Office" is when I submit my online application, or the moment I attend the UKVCAS appointment to enrol biometrics etc.

Could anyone help with this please?

Thanks!
Your date of application is the date you submit and pay online. The appointment is for biometrics.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Ity699 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:35 pm

I have an appointment in a weeks time to submit biometrics through the new system and have paid for online scanning, all my paper based evidence will easily be uploaded. But I wanted to know how out passports will be scanned will it be everypage as it states need provide evidence of entry and exits stamps or should i photocopy everypage of both passports beforehand so they could scan in

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by Plotoder » Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:38 pm

Best to scan and upload yourself too. UKVCAS will also scan and upload 3 versions of it (UV, B&W, Color) but they are known to make mistakes. Doesn’t hurt to have two copies uploaded.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by noname1 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:53 am

Hi All,
I have a query that is causing me some confusion and I wonder what you guys think, would be great to hear from admins also. It is to do with my employment history, which is very much complete but has one issue which is non of my own. I had a job more than 10 years ago which is not on HMRC records but I see on my payslips that I paid taxes.

I have included a cover letter with my application covering a few points, including the below which is my query:

"I have requested my employment records from HMRC which I have received. This is enclosed for your attention and shows my track record of economic activity.
There seems to be one issue with this enclosed document which, out of completeness and full candour, I would like to disclose.

For the tax year xx/xx, there is no records that I had been employed. However, I recall that I had a part-time job whilst I was a student.

For some reason, there is no record of this short-term job during early college years. However, it can be seen that Tax contributions for this period were made on my payslips. I have been proactive and made HMRC aware of this issue. I have been advised to provide HMRC with a copy of a payslip in relation to this employment so they can further investigate".

Do you think it's OK and that the HO would appreciate the honesty and keeping them in the loop or this may cause any issues???

Thanks :)

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by rasheedabdul786 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:35 pm

Hi Everyone,
I am in process of applying naturalisation for my wife and while filling the online application I came across two question which a bit confusing

1.Do you have any dependents not applying with you at this time ? I am British citizen and have two kids both of them are British citizens.what should be the answer

2.have you previously made any other uk immigration applications in the uk or abroad? what should be the answer if yes Do I need to list all visa application details since she first applied to u.k till she got ILR.

any response would be appreciated.Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by bizman » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:35 pm

rasheedabdul786 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:35 pm
Hi Everyone,
I am in process of applying naturalisation for my wife and while filling the online application I came across two question which a bit confusing

1.Do you have any dependents not applying with you at this time ? I am British citizen and have two kids both of them are British citizens.what should be the answer. Since it’s your wife application, all other family members have BC, just write No for her

2.have you previously made any other uk immigration applications in the uk or abroad? what should be the answer if yes Do I need to list all visa application details since she first applied to u.k till she got ILR. Yes

any response would be appreciated.Thanks
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by magicsign » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:42 pm

Hi, I'm in the process of getting everything sorted for my Naturalisation application as an EU applicant. I just have some doubts that hopefully someone here more will be able to help, thanks in advance.
  • This 22nd of January I will have my ILR for exactly 12 months, how do I prove that in my application considering that for the settled status you don't receive any document bust just a pdf (where it's explicitly written that this letter is not proof of your permanent residence but the passport is) confirming your ILR status. You can also generate a code from the HO link and provide that so they can check my status.
  • I am a bit concerned about listing all the absences in the last 5 years,I travel a lot, short trips, I am confident that I haven't exceed the 450 days threshold for the 5 years and 90 days max in the last 12 months for the ILR but how do you exactly prove that ? I read in the forum that someone suggested to list every single trip. I am not sure that I missed some Easyjet email or some dates might be wrong (there are cases where I cancel the flight) would that be an issue ?

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:31 pm

magicsign wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:42 pm
Hi, I'm in the process of getting everything sorted for my Naturalisation application as an EU applicant. I just have some doubts that hopefully someone here more will be able to help, thanks in advance.
  • This 22nd of January I will have my ILR for exactly 12 months, how do I prove that in my application considering that for the settled status you don't receive any document bust just a pdf (where it's explicitly written that this letter is not proof of your permanent residence but the passport is) confirming your ILR status. You can also generate a code from the HO link and provide that so they can check my status.
Suggest you load the PDF with your other documents - and also your code if that's what you get
  • I am a bit concerned about listing all the absences in the last 5 years,I travel a lot, short trips, I am confident that I haven't exceed the 450 days threshold for the 5 years and 90 days max in the last 12 months for the ILR but how do you exactly prove that ? I read in the forum that someone suggested to list every single trip. I am not sure that I missed some Easyjet email or some dates might be wrong (there are cases where I cancel the flight) would that be an issue ?
List out as much data as you can recall, estimating dates/durations is fine. You don't need to include outbound/inbound days. You just declare what you have, there's no need to prove everything.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by magicsign » Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:51 am

Thank you. When they say for the required supportive documents : evidence of national insurance contributions covering the relevant period :
Pay slips,p60s,letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their employment including start and finish dates.

There are 5 months total in my 6 years where I was unemployed, will this be an issue considering that during those 5 months I wasn't contributing to national insurance?
Thanks

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:14 pm

magicsign wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:51 am
Thank you. When they say for the required supportive documents : evidence of national insurance contributions covering the relevant period :
Pay slips,p60s,letter or letters from your employer or employers confirming you have worked in their employment including start and finish dates.

There are 5 months total in my 6 years where I was unemployed, will this be an issue considering that during those 5 months I wasn't contributing to national insurance?
Thanks
No issue - employment is not a requirement for naturalisation. Just state "unemployed".
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by lleksi » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:00 am

Hi all,
We are EU family, I have nearly sorted out our application and ready to pay, just would like to clarify some doubts under the section (Immigration details- Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard?)
1. Do I need to reveal the details about application for Registration Certificate, the blue one; I did apply for back in 2011
2. Do I need to reveal an application for Settlement status which has been granted last January?

Could anyone help please!

Thanks!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:38 am

lleksi wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:00 am
Hi all,
We are EU family, I have nearly sorted out our application and ready to pay, just would like to clarify some doubts under the section (Immigration details- Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard?)
1. Do I need to reveal the details about application for Registration Certificate, the blue one; I did apply for back in 2011
2. Do I need to reveal an application for Settlement status which has been granted last January?

Could anyone help please!

Thanks!
Yes to 1+2.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by mmsa » Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:16 am

lleksi wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:00 am
Hi all,
We are EU family, I have nearly sorted out our application and ready to pay, just would like to clarify some doubts under the section (Immigration details- Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or aboard?)
1. Do I need to reveal the details about application for Registration Certificate, the blue one; I did apply for back in 2011
2. Do I need to reveal an application for Settlement status which has been granted last January?

Could anyone help please!

Thanks!

Yes and yes

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by lleksi » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:10 am

Hi all,

Thank you for replay
Could yoy please help me;
Under the sectionsection (Biometric residence permits details:
Are you able to provide a biometric residence permit (BRP)card with this application?)
My wife holds Biometric Residence Card of a Family Member of Union Citizen
Does the answer should be yes or no

Thanks!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:09 am

lleksi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:10 am
Hi all,

Thank you for replay
Could yoy please help me;
Under the sectionsection (Biometric residence permits details:
Are you able to provide a biometric residence permit (BRP)card with this application?)
My wife holds Biometric Residence Card of a Family Member of Union Citizen
Does the answer should be yes or no

Thanks!
Wife should declare and submit the BRP card copy.
If you don't have one select "No".
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by lleksi » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:21 pm

Thank you for reply
My doubt is;
Does the Biometric Residence Card is the same as Biometric Residence permit

Thanks!

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by alterhase58 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:27 pm

lleksi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:21 pm
Thank you for reply
My doubt is;
Does the Biometric Residence Card is the same as Biometric Residence permit

Thanks!
I think it's the same. Do you have a "Biometric Residence permit"? Does it say "permanent"?
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by lleksi » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:39 pm

My wife holds Biometric Residence Card of a Family Member of Union Citizen
"Residence Card"

Thanks!
Last edited by lleksi on Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:42 pm

lleksi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:39 pm
My wife holds Biometric Residence Card of a Family Member of Union Citizen

Thanks!
Does she hold a document certifying permanent residence? It must state this clearly otherwise it is simply a residence card, which is not the same. She needs PR and the card that says this before she can apply for citizenship.
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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by lleksi » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:53 pm

Thanks
She holds Settlement status under EU Settlement Scheme and also she holds
Biometric Residence Card

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Re: Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

Post by CR001 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:54 pm

lleksi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:53 pm
Thanks
She holds Settlement status under EU Settlement Scheme and also she holds
Biometric Residence Card
It would be useful and beneficial if you continued your questions in your existing topic rather than this general one where posts tend to get kissed and lost.

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