Advice required on wording and immigration history

seagul wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:58 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:34 pm

Does the 28 calendar day rule apply from day of online submission? Eg when I submit via Visa4UK?

Yes

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:34 pm

It says period end date is 31 July 2019?
Pay date 26 July
Are you sure it starts from 31 July?

It will start from 31st July despite you get paid few days earlier.

Thank you both I feel pretty stupid now for such an obvious thing! So that means I have until the 28 August to have the online application submitted?

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:06 pm

Thank you both I feel pretty stupid now for such an obvious thing! So that means I have until the 28 August to have the online application submitted?

Correct.

And pay the fees.

Just thinking out loud
Is it possible to mix: official paper statements and stamped paper statement by the bank?

thinking that if I go past the 28th date, I can get an up to date stamped statement that will show my August wage so it will mean 5 official statements and one stamped?

Yes you can mix both type of statements because they both are official versions. Out of interest as you have deployed a solicitor so are you cross checking or helping your solicitor?

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:58 pm

Yes you can mix both type of statements because they both are official versions. Out of interest as you have deployed a solicitor so are you cross checking or helping your solicitor?

It Won’t be an issue as there won’t be consistency with format of documents?

Valid question! Cross checking Seagul- I’d rather make sure I’ve taken various opinions than to trust one word... Especially with the amount the application costs!

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:27 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:50 pm

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Hi

Do you have an update on your situation? My spouse application is very similar to yours.

Have you had an outcome on your application?

Im glad to see I’m not the only one. I’m looking to submit the application within the next week and will be completely open and transparent and allow the HO to make a decision based on honesty.

What’s your situation? What have you chosen to do to help?

We went for the honesty route too. We were completely transparent in our application and sent a cover letter also requesting the case to be viewed independently of previous immigration history, having understood and acknowledged how it can cast reservations when reviewing this application.

My husband was in the UK between 2010 and 2014 on a student visa. His student visa expired sometime in 2013 and he submitted for an extension which was refused. He appealed and it was refused and then had a JR which was denied. He then was detained but granted bail. He then left to go to ROI where he submitted a new application as family member of an EEA national (his brother is a UK citizen). This was declined due to insufficient evidence being submitted (no other reason). He appealed this and the appeal process was still ongoing since 2017. In the meantime, he left to go back to original country (Pakistan) we got married - and have now applied for a spouse visa and withdrawn the appeal in ROI.

I'm very scared as to the outcome, and praying for the best.

Hi

Have you heard anything about your application?

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:34 pm

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:27 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:50 pm

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:10 pm

Hi

Do you have an update on your situation? My spouse application is very similar to yours.

Have you had an outcome on your application?

Im glad to see I’m not the only one. I’m looking to submit the application within the next week and will be completely open and transparent and allow the HO to make a decision based on honesty.

What’s your situation? What have you chosen to do to help?

We went for the honesty route too. We were completely transparent in our application and sent a cover letter also requesting the case to be viewed independently of previous immigration history, having understood and acknowledged how it can cast reservations when reviewing this application.

My husband was in the UK between 2010 and 2014 on a student visa. His student visa expired sometime in 2013 and he submitted for an extension which was refused. He appealed and it was refused and then had a JR which was denied. He then was detained but granted bail. He then left to go to ROI where he submitted a new application as family member of an EEA national (his brother is a UK citizen). This was declined due to insufficient evidence being submitted (no other reason). He appealed this and the appeal process was still ongoing since 2017. In the meantime, he left to go back to original country (Pakistan) we got married - and have now applied for a spouse visa and withdrawn the appeal in ROI.

I'm very scared as to the outcome, and praying for the best.

Hi

Have you heard anything about your application?

Hello.. no not yet. We have only received the initial e-mail to say the case is being considered.
What about you? How far have you gotten?

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:15 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:34 pm

Fififadi wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:27 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:50 pm

Im glad to see I’m not the only one. I’m looking to submit the application within the next week and will be completely open and transparent and allow the HO to make a decision based on honesty.

What’s your situation? What have you chosen to do to help?

We went for the honesty route too. We were completely transparent in our application and sent a cover letter also requesting the case to be viewed independently of previous immigration history, having understood and acknowledged how it can cast reservations when reviewing this application.

My husband was in the UK between 2010 and 2014 on a student visa. His student visa expired sometime in 2013 and he submitted for an extension which was refused. He appealed and it was refused and then had a JR which was denied. He then was detained but granted bail. He then left to go to ROI where he submitted a new application as family member of an EEA national (his brother is a UK citizen). This was declined due to insufficient evidence being submitted (no other reason). He appealed this and the appeal process was still ongoing since 2017. In the meantime, he left to go back to original country (Pakistan) we got married - and have now applied for a spouse visa and withdrawn the appeal in ROI.

I'm very scared as to the outcome, and praying for the best.

Hi

Have you heard anything about your application?

Hello.. no not yet. We have only received the initial e-mail to say the case is being considered.
What about you? How far have you gotten?

I haven’t even got as far as submitting it yet - it’s stuck with solicitor which makes me anxious but I suppose it’s a waiting game. I’m hoping to submit it in the next two weeks (in an ideal world)

I can see you’ve updated the timeline post so I’ll keep an eye on that and see how you get on

Good luck!

Seagul, CR001 or any other experienced members

I’d recurved a phone call from my solicitor today telling me I need to supply evidence of communication from my husband’s side too to evidence that we are truly messaging each other.

I’ve asked my husband to do this to match the conversations up on both sides for the chat log and of course call log is only available up to one montj

Can you tell me if this is precautionary to have both sides or truly something the HO will check?

I’m starting to panic now and I’m not sure if this is just to be thorough

Evidence of communication and subsisting relationship needs to show from both sides.

CR001 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:37 pm

Evidence of communication and subsisting relationship needs to show from both sides.

Oh D it.

I’ve asked my husband to screenshot chats that mirror the screenshots I have and call log will only be for August but we have evidence of bills showing that the numbers belong to us so I’m hoping a paragraph within the cover letter should hopefully help.

Thanks CR001

Messages/chat/calls can be from either side not necessarily from both sides. Either side will cover both side without causing any repetition of same thing.

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:32 pm

Messages/chat/calls can be from either side not necessarily from both sides. Either side will cover both side.

Thank you Seagul and CR001
Ps just out of curiosity- have you and other administrators been through this process?
All members that have responded to me have always been knowledgeable and I’ve wondered!

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:35 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:32 pm

Messages/chat/calls can be from either side not necessarily from both sides. Either side will cover both side.

Thank you Seagul and CR001
Ps just out of curiosity- have you and other administrators been through this process?
All members that have responded to me have always been knowledgeable and I’ve wondered!

Same question to you that when you keep cross checking your solicitor here then why you are hiring and paying him

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:43 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:35 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:32 pm

Messages/chat/calls can be from either side not necessarily from both sides. Either side will cover both side.

Thank you Seagul and CR001
Ps just out of curiosity- have you and other administrators been through this process?
All members that have responded to me have always been knowledgeable and I’ve wondered!

Same question to you that when you keep cross checking your solicitor here then why you are hiring and paying him

Think you may have misunderstood my questions Seagul - wasn’t intended to cause offence...
Paying the solicitor because I’m not an expert within this area despite being educated and having access to such forums

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:47 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:43 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:35 pm

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:32 pm

Messages/chat/calls can be from either side not necessarily from both sides. Either side will cover both side.

Thank you Seagul and CR001
Ps just out of curiosity- have you and other administrators been through this process?
All members that have responded to me have always been knowledgeable and I’ve wondered!

Same question to you that when you keep cross checking your solicitor here then why you are hiring and paying him

Think you may have misunderstood my questions Seagul - wasn’t intended to cause offence...
Paying the solicitor because I’m not an expert within this area despite being educated and having access to such forums

I guess you didn't get me. Anyways keep it up

Hellooo again

Is the priority service £800, paid via Visa4UK at the same time as the application?
Trying to find the exact cost but I couldn’t see it on the website

Thanks

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 03, 2019 5:37 pm

Hellooo again

Is the priority service £800, paid via Visa4UK at the same time as the application?
Trying to find the exact cost but I couldn’t see it on the website

Thanks

Yes, that's correct.
All the best!

Dear all

I will be posting this in the separate forum but for now, the online application has been submitted. I was calm before but now quite panicky! Keep me in your prayers. I’m now confirming the cover letter the solicitor has written and would like views, format:

Pg1 all evidence that is being submitted
Para 1 brief info on my employment, role and my annual. Wage
Para 2 brief info on how my husband and I know each other
A sentence re travel to Pakistan for me and confirmation that we meet all immigration criteria eg housing et.
Para 4 this relates to an earlier issue mentioned above about Abu Dhabi - that my husband can’t recall reason for refusal but does not dispute it is incorrect
Para 5 clarification on issue re passport - stating that it was reported lost without proper legal advice and hadn’t realised that he just had to say he didn’t have it and give passport number only
Para 6 confirming that with his father dying - he had to return to Pakistan from ROI and that’s why we married there


We haven’t included any information relating to his Tier 4 stay in that the college had closed and he was transferred to another provider. BUT we have been completely honest in the travel history and confirmed all tier 4 applications using BRP dates and confirmed all refusals. Do you think we should?

I believe that by providing info on travel history, we have not hidden any material facts and HO will have access to this information anyway. I think the cover letter is therefore sufficient.

Any thoughts?

Please can a senior member respond. I’ve made a mistake whilst checking the online application that had now been submitted. The question asked HAVE YOU BEEN DEPORTED, REMOVED OR OTHERWISE REQUIRED TO LEAVE ANY COUNTRY INCLUDING THE UK IN THE LAST 10 YEARS?
I chose no

But actually my husband received a letter advising him if he couldn’t submit a new cas he had to leave in 60 days - which he did

I’m literally at the point of crying now -
I’ve added a paragraph into the cover letter confirming the error

And will amend on the printed application form to include further information


Is there anything else I can do? Can it be amended somehow? Possibly at the centre?

Actually I’m not sure if this is incorrect now?
I’ve made a dummy account to look at the question and the options on clicking yes are

Country
Date of deportation/removal
The port or airport
Reason for deportation or removal

He wasn’t deported. Nor removed. It was simply a letter telling him that as the college had closed down, he had to submit a new CAS or leave within 60 days.

I’m really confused.

Help??

You are over thinking because no is a correct answer because on closure of colleges usually the visa is curtailed to 60 days. As he has left before deadline then its correct to say no.

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:23 pm

You are over thinking because no is a correct answer because on closure of colleges usually the visa is curtailed to 60 days. As he has left before deadline then its correct to say no.

I think I had a moment of panic so did a lot of digging and found old Patel guidance which my husband was subject to: 60 days to find a new CAS or leave the UK. And I also created the dummy account as above and none of the options applied.

If I’m not wrong - deportation/removal is enforcement and required to leave is overstay / illegal stay - is that right?

Do you think I should add a very small sentence into the cover letter to say something like:

following the submission of the Tier 4 General student visa, the Applicant received a letter telling him to submit a new Sponsorship or leave. The Applicant chose to leave within the 60 days.

Is it necessary to clarify we why chose no on the form? (The options don’t apply?)

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:45 pm

Do you think I should add a very small sentence into the cover letter to say something like:

No harm in doing so for own mental satisfaction

seagul wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:09 pm

ms1993 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:45 pm

Do you think I should add a very small sentence into the cover letter to say something like:

No harm in doing so for own mental satisfaction

I think that’s exactly what it is. Nothing too long to complicate matters as they hold all records anyway but simple to provide explanation.

Well seagul, thank you (and other moderators too) that have helped me through this journey. Your advice has been very helpful indeed!

Wish me luck