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Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:38 am

Hi,

My wife is applying for a UK spouse visa and I have just written a first draft for my supporting letter, I have checked resources online and used various templates but wanted a bit of advice.

I have taken out personal info and exact dates- does it make sense to reference exact dates all the time? I wasn’t sure if it is a bit too long and whether I need to mention what I did in Brazil for work. I have written a separate savings letter.

We have been together for 5 years nearly, married for 3. Intended to apply from Brazil in June this year but our plans like many others were scuppered due to COVID-19. Hopefully once she has done the English test the biometrics centre in Brazil will be reopened for her to submit. There's no way round this right? Some kind of special dispensation because of the virus to apply from UK?

Any advice would be great, thank you.

Thanks




Dear Sir or Madam

Re: Application for a UK Settlement Visa – APPLICANT NAME
I am writing in support of my wife, NAME, in respect of her visa application to settle with me in the United Kingdom.
I wanted to write to you to aid you when assessing our application for this visa by giving you details about our relationship and an appendices list of all my supporting documents that we are submitting on behalf of this application.
I live permanently in the UK at the above address. This is the address where my wife and I shall live indefinitely. My parents NAMES own this property and as part of this spouse application, I am including a letter from them that we shall both reside at this property, along with documents related to their ownership of the house

Brief Background
I am a British national and have been living back in the UK since 2019, before then I lived in Brazil with my wife from 2017-19 (see file section x). I have a permanent job at EMPLOYER and have held the position since 2019. I am financially sound as evidenced by my savings which we will be using together with my salary to satisfy the financial requirements of the visa (see file section x), so will not require recourse to public funds, and NAME herself is very keen to find employment as soon as possible and start contributing to our income.

Relationship History
NAMES first began talking online in 2015 in CITY during her 9 months stay as part of her PhD at EMPLOYER. I have included chat logs from Facebook during these early months and evidence of trips together in London, Barcelona and Paris (March & April 2016). Our relationship grew during this period and we planned to stay together during our trip in Paris as evidenced in more Facebook chatlogs and kept in regular communication via Facebook video and messenger after her return to Brazil in 2016. I visited her in Brazil for the first time in 2016. I spent 19 days in Brazil where we travelled together, and our relationship grew further during this period. I include passport entry and exit stamps evidencing this trip, flight confirmations and further recent trips mentioned below including photos for your viewing.
I left UK in November 2016 to travel with the aim of arriving in Brazil to live with NAME in April 2017. Once again, we kept in regular communication during this period and we organised a 3-week holiday in Mexico and Cuba in January 2017, meeting on the 19th, to ensure we were not physically apart for too long. This trip allowed us again to travel to new places, become closer and is evidenced by photos and booking confirmations for flights and accommodation.
I arrived in CITY, Brazil on April, 2017 and arrived in DIFF CITY near to where we intended to live in April, I have included evidence of these flights. We began living together in May 2017, in CITY. We lived in a friend’s apartment and lived together until I returned to the UK in August 2019. I have included a letter from the owner of the apartment to confirm we were living there during this period and a letter from the Bank of Brazil where we have a joint account, confirming our address.

After almost 3 years of knowing each other we got married in September 2018 in the hometown of my wife, CITY, a marriage certificate is translated and included for your viewing. In February 2019, my wife met my family and friends for the first time in the UK. I have attached evidence confirming this.
In early 2019, we decided we wanted to move back to the UK and start a life there. I struggled with the language in Brazil and with my wife already knowing English and holding a PhD, intends to use her skills to work within the Biochemistry field. I moved in August 2019 and began looking for work to start our visa process. I traveled back to visit my wife in Brazil in November 2019- December 2019 where we did a small travel and I spent time staying with her family, ensuring we didn’t spend too long apart during my first 6 months work. This is evidenced in bookings and photos of my time there
Current Circumstances
At the time of writing I am living in the UK and have been working at EMPLOYER from September - November on a temporary contract, before starting permanently in November 2019. I have included my offer letter and confirmation of employment letter from the HR department. Most recently my wife had planned to visit me in the UK in March 2020 but this was cancelled due to the outbreak of COVID-19. We booked another flight for July 2020 where we spent 2 months together until September 6th, where NAME will fly back to Brazil to submit this spouse visa application. NAME will of course remain in Brazil to await the outcome of her application and is already very excited at the prospect of life in the UK. We have discussed in great detail our plans of where to live, where she’ll work, places we’ll visit etc….so I thank you for taking the time to read this letter of support and trust that we have been able to provide sufficient evidence that we are in a genuine and subsisting relationship and that I am able to fully support my wife in the UK.

NAME has included my UK contact details in section x of the application form. Should you require any further information from me please don’t hesitate to get in touch.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by Manugmedia » Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm

It's too long. Make it brief. You are explaining what will be evidenced by documents you provide. ECO is only interested on evidence not explaination. Aslo take this out, "and NAME herself is very keen to find employment as soon as possible and start contributing to our income."
She is joining you as a spouse not finding work.

Financial requiremnt is a key issue in decision making so if your salary is +9300 for the past 6 months, use category A and don't complicate it by including savings.

Keep it simple and straight forward.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by Covee » Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:27 pm

My letter was around 570 words and on top of this I put together a very detailed list of the all the documentation i included. So the document was around 1,100 words in total (letter + list)

For the list I created sub-headings such as financial evidence, proof of relationship, Sponsor ID, Applicant ID, Accommodation Evidence etc. and listed the title of every documents being provided under these subheadings. This way the person reviewing the application knew exactly what to look for.

With regards to dates, I used exact dates and was very very very careful to make sure the dates matched everything in passport, entry stamps, visas and the dates provided in the spouse visa application form. etc.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by AmazonianX » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:18 pm

For the cover letter, try and keep details factual and relevant, all dates exact and corroborated by other evidence you are providing in support of the application.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:36 pm

Manugmedia wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:29 pm
It's too long. Make it brief. You are explaining what will be evidenced by documents you provide. ECO is only interested on evidence not explaination. Aslo take this out, "and NAME herself is very keen to find employment as soon as possible and start contributing to our income."
She is joining you as a spouse not finding work.

Financial requiremnt is a key issue in decision making so if your salary is +9300 for the past 6 months, use category A and don't complicate it by including savings.

Keep it simple and straight forward.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I was thinking that it could be too long. It just seems to me that I need to write what I have done to explain our relationship? I can't seem to work out what things to cut out.

Re the financial requirement I earn £18,000 per year and have ample savings to make up the shortfall. My understanding from what I have read so far that using savings is the best way to make the application?

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by CR001 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:37 pm

How much savings do you have and how long have you held them in an accessible account?
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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:39 pm

Covee wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:27 pm
My letter was around 570 words and on top of this I put together a very detailed list of the all the documentation i included. So the document was around 1,100 words in total (letter + list)

For the list I created sub-headings such as financial evidence, proof of relationship, Sponsor ID, Applicant ID, Accommodation Evidence etc. and listed the title of every documents being provided under these subheadings. This way the person reviewing the application knew exactly what to look for.

With regards to dates, I used exact dates and was very very very careful to make sure the dates matched everything in passport, entry stamps, visas and the dates provided in the spouse visa application form. etc.

Hope this helps.
Thanks that's useful to know about the word count, its difficult to keep it short. Yeah I thought that about the exact dates, I actually temporarily left Brazil a couple of times to visit family and work a bit, 1-2 months each trip. Should that be mentioned?

That list of all documentation is a good idea.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:40 pm

CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:37 pm
How much savings do you have and how long have you held them in an accessible account?
I have £25,000 and my wife has around £10,000 in BRL. Both amounts have been in our respective accounts for over 6 months.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:48 pm

zimmerman wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:40 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:37 pm
How much savings do you have and how long have you held them in an accessible account?
I have £25,000 and my wife has around £10,000 in BRL. Both amounts have been in our respective accounts for over 6 months.
That should suffice to make up the shortfall. You will need the bank statement(s) for the required duration and a simple letter declaring the source of the savings.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:48 pm
zimmerman wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:40 pm
CR001 wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:37 pm
How much savings do you have and how long have you held them in an accessible account?
I have £25,000 and my wife has around £10,000 in BRL. Both amounts have been in our respective accounts for over 6 months.
That should suffice to make up the shortfall. You will need the bank statement(s) for the required duration and a simple letter declaring the source of the savings.
Thanks for the reply.

Yeah we have the bank statements, some of my money was a gift from family over a year ago, is it worth declaring that? Its not going to show on the 6 months of statements we will submit.

Also, my wife is currently in UK, can we begin the application, register an account, upload a few documents and fill in some details before she returns to her Home country to submit and pay? We were just thinking of getting organised and saving some time as we are together right now. I know she has to submit from her home country as she is just a visitor here, just want to know how far with the application she can get beforehand.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by seagul » Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:42 am

zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

Yeah we have the bank statements, some of my money was a gift from family over a year ago, is it worth declaring that? Its not going to show on the 6 months of statements we will submit.
If the innate provenance of those funds was that gift which still hasn't been used then ideally still declare it.
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am
Also, my wife is currently in UK, can we begin the application, register an account, upload a few documents and fill in some details before she returns to her Home country to submit and pay? We were just thinking of getting organised and saving some time as we are together right now. I know she has to submit from her home country as she is just a visitor here, just want to know how far with the application she can get beforehand.
Ideally apply from scratch once she reach back home.
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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:32 am

seagul wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:42 am
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

Yeah we have the bank statements, some of my money was a gift from family over a year ago, is it worth declaring that? Its not going to show on the 6 months of statements we will submit.
If the innate provenance of those funds was that gift which still hasn't been used then ideally still declare it.
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am
Also, my wife is currently in UK, can we begin the application, register an account, upload a few documents and fill in some details before she returns to her Home country to submit and pay? We were just thinking of getting organised and saving some time as we are together right now. I know she has to submit from her home country as she is just a visitor here, just want to know how far with the application she can get beforehand.
Ideally apply from scratch once she reach back home.
Would it likely cause any issues? As she has already registered an account on the website but hardly filled anything in. We just wanted to get a feel of the application website whilst we are in the same country and upload some evidence we have. She would pay and submit using my bank card in her country- which is the bit where they would judge and see it was applied for and submitted in the applicant's home country? A little confused haha!

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by seagul » Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:36 am

zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:32 am
seagul wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:42 am
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

Yeah we have the bank statements, some of my money was a gift from family over a year ago, is it worth declaring that? Its not going to show on the 6 months of statements we will submit.
If the innate provenance of those funds was that gift which still hasn't been used then ideally still declare it.
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am
Also, my wife is currently in UK, can we begin the application, register an account, upload a few documents and fill in some details before she returns to her Home country to submit and pay? We were just thinking of getting organised and saving some time as we are together right now. I know she has to submit from her home country as she is just a visitor here, just want to know how far with the application she can get beforehand.
Ideally apply from scratch once she reach back home.
Would it likely cause any issues? As she has already registered an account on the website but hardly filled anything in. We just wanted to get a feel of the application website whilst we are in the same country and upload some evidence we have. She would pay and submit using my bank card in her country- which is the bit where they would judge and see it was applied for and submitted in the applicant's home country? A little confused haha!
No issue. Even a dummy form can be run by anyone who even don't need the visa.
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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by bathanza » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:11 pm

Supporting letters can never be too long but has to be relevant to the tilea..

Format is correct always start with the sponsor situation and then each FLR M SE rules can be covered and how its met.

Anything that cannot be explained in the small boxes the HO give in an application can never be enough sometimes.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:40 pm

seagul wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:36 am
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:32 am
seagul wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:42 am
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am

Yeah we have the bank statements, some of my money was a gift from family over a year ago, is it worth declaring that? Its not going to show on the 6 months of statements we will submit.
If the innate provenance of those funds was that gift which still hasn't been used then ideally still declare it.
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:20 am
Also, my wife is currently in UK, can we begin the application, register an account, upload a few documents and fill in some details before she returns to her Home country to submit and pay? We were just thinking of getting organised and saving some time as we are together right now. I know she has to submit from her home country as she is just a visitor here, just want to know how far with the application she can get beforehand.
Ideally apply from scratch once she reach back home.
Would it likely cause any issues? As she has already registered an account on the website but hardly filled anything in. We just wanted to get a feel of the application website whilst we are in the same country and upload some evidence we have. She would pay and submit using my bank card in her country- which is the bit where they would judge and see it was applied for and submitted in the applicant's home country? A little confused haha!
No issue. Even a dummy form can be run by anyone who even don't need the visa.
Yeah that's what we were thinking. We were just worried if we start uploading stuff now in the UK it might be a problem when they start checking where the application was submitted from. As far as I can tell the key is to submit and pay in the correct place.

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:45 pm

bathanza wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:11 pm
Supporting letters can never be too long but has to be relevant to the tilea..

Format is correct always start with the sponsor situation and then each FLR M SE rules can be covered and how its met.

Anything that cannot be explained in the small boxes the HO give in an application can never be enough sometimes.
Thanks,

I have got mine down to around 700 words now which seems more reasonable.

One other quick thing, during the 2 years I lived in Brazil I went back to the UK on 2 occasions for around 2 months over Christmas and early New Year, (long holiday period in Brazil) and I had a temp job in the UK and wanted to see family etc. I went alone, with my wife visiting briefly on only one of the trips before we traveled back together.

How would be best to word this in the letter or just not mention it? I have flight bookings and passport stamps evidencing me returning to Brazil each time.

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Post by seagul » Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:51 pm

zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:45 pm


How would be best to word this in the letter or just not mention it? I have flight bookings and passport stamps evidencing me returning to Brazil each time.
Don't mention it rather just attach the evidences such as tickets, passport stamps, pictures etc as part of subsisting relationship.
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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:53 pm

seagul wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:51 pm
zimmerman wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:45 pm


How would be best to word this in the letter or just not mention it? I have flight bookings and passport stamps evidencing me returning to Brazil each time.
Don't mention it rather just attach the evidences such as tickets, passport stamps, pictures etc as part of subsisting relationship.
Yeah that probably makes sense, thanks.

How is the best way to reference things in the letter? Should I keep saying 'this is evidenced by blah blah blah' or 'I have attached blah blah to prove this? Or would it be better to simply put (see file 1) after each point or just a small paragraph at the bottom saying that I have included various types of evidence to support what I have said?

I am planning to write an appendices list, I saw a useful one on here

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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by seagul » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:58 pm

zimmerman wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:53 pm


I am planning to write an appendices list, I saw a useful one on here
You actually don't need it because you will find corresponding categories allow you to upload the relevant documents. See below:

https://www.immigrationboards.com/indef ... 96002.html
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Re: Sponsor supporting letter advice

Post by zimmerman » Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:56 pm

seagul wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:58 pm
zimmerman wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:53 pm


I am planning to write an appendices list, I saw a useful one on here
You actually don't need it because you will find corresponding categories allow you to upload the relevant documents. See below:

https://www.immigrationboards.com/indef ... 96002.html

Oh right that’s useful to know, thanks. So we upload after paying and then bring them to the Biometrics meeting as well ?

I’ve had a little play around on the form and there was a tick box saying:

“Payslips covering any period of salaried employment (current and previous) in the period of 12 months prior to the date of application”


I was under the impression I just need submit my last 6 months pay slips from the date we submit ? I am using salary and savings, going back 12 months is for people using another job to meet requirements ?

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