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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by lucidj » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:27 pm

Motumber wrote:
Sat Feb 01, 2020 2:35 pm
>>>Can anyone please tell me why some people wait 3 years to get approved? I am about to apply as well and would prefer not to wait Al that time as I already had to wait for 17 months only for my stamp 4 based on married to Irish National<<<
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If you prefer not to wait just don't apply. Simple.

Citizenship is an honor, in the USA it takes 20 Years for you to become a citizen. You'll need to wait, it's the system, not happy? Just don't apply and stay with your own visa status. Why you're in a hurry to become a citizen? Are you ina hurry to vote? Otherwise, stay up to date with your status on INIS.

Lads, life is too short for you to wait for something you CAN'T control, go and enjoy your family and friends while life takes care of the rest.
I did not ask for your pathetic life advice, I made a technical question, if you can't answer, put yourself in your own place and go to educate your children, not me. Xx

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by markem » Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:59 pm

lucidj wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:47 am
Can anyone please tell me why some people wait 3 years to get approved? I am about to apply as well and would prefer not to wait Al that time as I already had to wait for 17 months only for my stamp 4 based on married to Irish National
I'll try to answer your question. There are not many people that wait so long to get approved.
Every so often, there are Oireachtas questions about this so you can see how many are waiting. At the end of 2018, there were 200 waiting from 2015 (out of nearly 13,000 applications) according to this link.

I've tracked nearly 350 approvals, and the time to approve is shown in this chart. 50% of those applications were approved within 300 days. 76% within 450 days.
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But why are there some that take so long? I would say it's a combination of:
  • Applicant hasn't provided all the information needed
  • Conflicting information is found and has to be resolved
  • INIS is trying to access records from foreign governments which are slow to respond
  • The applicant's eligibility is marginal - judgement calls have to be made
  • Other applications rise to the top of the pile because they are easier
  • INIS makes a mistake - loses or misinterprets information
  • ... many others I'm sure
Timeline threads here:
2020 /
2019 / 2018 / 2017 / 2016

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by SeanDub » Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:29 pm

Applied in September 2017, received 2nd stage letter in August 2018 and nothing since then. Whenever I contact they reply "continue to be processed", I am going for judicial review if I don't hear anything in February 2020.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 am

SeanDub wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:29 pm
Applied in September 2017, received 2nd stage letter in August 2018 and nothing since then. Whenever I contact they reply "continue to be processed", I am going for judicial review if I don't hear anything in February 2020.
Hi - Did you send any inquiry or letters through TD or lawyer requesting status/update/decision of your application? Is yes, what was the response? I am just trying to assess what options are available to us for querying my wife's application which is pending for over 2 years as well. Thanks!

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Finepaddy » Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:53 am

Few years back people got approvals through TDs letter but now they dont consider TD representation and the same way goes to solicitor.

If u threat them for Judicial review then citizenship will threat u back with cost of the case.
They did same with two my friends. They wont take u serious unless they have court hearing date.
After doing my research (solicitor friend) not single judicial review case decision available through judge.
Its mean they do settle all the cases either before court or after court. Just only for one reason if court delivered judgement on citizenship delay cases and in case it will goes against them then there will be judgement available to argue in future cases against citizenship department so that's why they settle all the judicial review beforehand.
Finepaddy becomes badpaddy :mrgreen:

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by SeanDub » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:31 am

iamok wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 am
SeanDub wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:29 pm
Applied in September 2017, received 2nd stage letter in August 2018 and nothing since then. Whenever I contact they reply "continue to be processed", I am going for judicial review if I don't hear anything in February 2020.
Hi - Did you send any inquiry or letters through TD or lawyer requesting status/update/decision of your application? Is yes, what was the response? I am just trying to assess what options are available to us for querying my wife's application which is pending for over 2 years as well. Thanks!
I have sent many letters through my solicitor and through TDs as well but unfortunately nothing changed for me, I have wasted my 15 years in this country, working in IT always paying taxes, and end of the day that's what I got, I am from Pakistan and my solicitor told me they are delaying applications from Pakistan without any explanation or without any obvious reason.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:47 am

Finepaddy wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:53 am
Few years back people got approvals through TDs letter but now they dont consider TD representation and the same way goes to solicitor.

If u threat them for Judicial review then citizenship will threat u back with cost of the case.
They did same with two my friends. They wont take u serious unless they have court hearing date.
After doing my research (solicitor friend) not single judicial review case decision available through judge.
Its mean they do settle all the cases either before court or after court. Just only for one reason if court delivered judgement on citizenship delay cases and in case it will goes against them then there will be judgement available to argue in future cases against citizenship department so that's why they settle all the judicial review beforehand.
Thank you for your response. Very helpful context.

We queried through a TD before and even he didn't get a response back. We talked to a lawyer recently and they told us that even if a lawyer letter doesn't get a decision then at least it will get the department to look at the file which may not be in any queue at the moment. We are thinking to go with the option of lawyer's letter and see how it goes.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by iamok » Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:51 am

SeanDub wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:31 am
iamok wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 am
SeanDub wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:29 pm
Applied in September 2017, received 2nd stage letter in August 2018 and nothing since then. Whenever I contact they reply "continue to be processed", I am going for judicial review if I don't hear anything in February 2020.
Hi - Did you send any inquiry or letters through TD or lawyer requesting status/update/decision of your application? Is yes, what was the response? I am just trying to assess what options are available to us for querying my wife's application which is pending for over 2 years as well. Thanks!
I have sent many letters through my solicitor and through TDs as well but unfortunately nothing changed for me, I have wasted my 15 years in this country, working in IT always paying taxes, and end of the day that's what I got, I am from Pakistan and my solicitor told me they are delaying applications from Pakistan without any explanation or without any obvious reason.
Thank you for the response. Looks like your and my circumstances are exactly similar. We have also been told the same thing as you regarding delays. Let's hope for the best.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by SeanDub » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:58 pm

Anyone got approval in February who applied in 2017?

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Sazhar » Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:15 pm

Hi All,
Got Invitation Letter today (18th February) after getting Approval Letter on 23rd January. Its for 3rd March Ceremony, at 2.30pm.
I pray all others here get their Letters soon.
Applied in January 2017 by the way.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by SeanDub » Wed May 06, 2020 2:07 pm

Hi Guys, Anyone heard anything back who applied in 2017, applied in September 2017 and still no luck.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by Stanina » Thu May 07, 2020 6:29 am

SeanDub wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 2:07 pm
Hi Guys, Anyone heard anything back who applied in 2017, applied in September 2017 and still no luck.
Inis is processing applications to some extend remotely but did not approve any new applications since March.

I think it will start when we have new government and prior one month to new ceremony in latest 5th stage of Quarantine.

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Re: Citizenship applications from 2017 pending approval

Post by nad2107 » Fri May 08, 2020 12:44 pm

Nope nothing at all. Applied in April 2017. Send so many emails they always say still being processed in Normal way. It’s ridiculous hundreds been approved after us. But I think as from Pakistan they are delaying as they not giving any reason for delay at all. Don’t know what step to take next as everything under lock down. Any advise anyone

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