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I am trying to answer this question based on posts to this forum where people have identified their 'home' country. This is a work in progress, but I'm posting anyway as it will get better over time as I get more data (chart will update automatically). The numbers in the labels are how many applications I have recorded for each country. I've only included countries with 4 or more data points. Still, it's not going to be very accurate at this stage.markem wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:34 amNo. But I'm not sure anyone has facts on that by country of origin.aneelrahim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:22 amPPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it
Hi markemmarkem wrote: ↑Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:08 pmI am trying to answer this question based on posts to this forum where people have identified their 'home' country. This is a work in progress, but I'm posting anyway as it will get better over time as I get more data (chart will update automatically). The numbers in the labels are how many applications I have recorded for each country. I've only included countries with 4 or more data points. Still, it's not going to be very accurate at this stage.markem wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:34 amNo. But I'm not sure anyone has facts on that by country of origin.aneelrahim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2019 10:22 amPPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it
There are a couple of observations about Pakistan. Firstly, there are a few people who have been waiting for a very long time, so the average waiting time appears much higher than any other country. Secondly, the average time to approval does appear longer than India and UK. I wouldn't yet compare it to the other countries without more data.
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Not really. As there are only two users (yourself and Captainf) who I know are from Afghanistan it's not very meaningful data.
Well done about the chart and gathering data man, keep that up.. statistics would give aproximate time frame based on the country.![]()
I think the department doesn't give citizenship easily to people from middle Eastern countries. I don't know anyone from those countries getting citizenship in less then a year. Same story with people who have refugee status. It takes more than 2 years, while on the other hand polish, Nigerian Indian, Chinese, Brazilian they don't wait that long. They get their citizenship within a year. While some of us are still here waiting for more than 3 years. They system is too slow while they handle our case.
To be honest it's no really obvious, you could be right regarding some sort of discrimination from one country to another but I would believe more into political and countries agreements and business between Ireland and the country you are from. Keep in mind, some of middle east and african countries are very slow and bad systems. Probably Ireland side is done and they sent your application to check your background but your country is bad and slow to provide such info.. YOU NEVER KNOWRajSingh1 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:32 pmI think the department doesn't give citizenship easily to people from middle Eastern countries. I don't know anyone from those countries getting citizenship in less then a year. Same story with people who have refugee status. It takes more than 2 years, while on the other hand polish, Nigerian Indian, Chinese, Brazilian they don't wait that long. They get their citizenship within a year. While some of us are still here waiting for more than 3 years. They system is too slow while they handle our case.
Hi. Would you please let me know when did you get approval?amwaraich wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:29 amHello Guys,
I am back here after a long time. I already suggested you all that you must go to court but some people are too scared to go to court because it may make the department angry and they may get refusal.
I made a mistake to go to court after 2.5 years. I should have gone after 1 year as I did for my wife now. Immediately after one year she applied for JR. In the first hearing, department requested the court to give them some more time to make their submissions. The court gave them time and told them no time will be given anymore. Next hearing is coming up and department have to decide or make submissions as to why application decision is late.
One more thing, department cannot refuse application just because you went to court untill or unless you didn't disclose all the information they asked. If department refuses application for an obvious reason already disclosed in application, it will be considered malafide after such a long time. This type of refusal can further be challenged in court.
If you people want to wait indefinitely, it is your choice. The department wouldn't give a damn about it if you are patiently waiting for their convenience to work on your file.
If you are completely clueless about what to do. PM me and I will point you to the right direction.
By the way I got my approval through court. I even got my ceremony invitation through court within 5 days otherwise department was going to postpone my ceremony to the next one.
Wish you all good luck.
Thanks for the reply. I think at this time because of the Judge statement they are not going to send approvals until it is resolved. Just don’t know for how long we’ll have to wait.
This could be a reason but it doesn't apply to people who didn't go outside Ireland in their last year of application. This judgement doesn't apply to people who applied on the basis of Irish Associations as well. I am not sure about Irish Spouses. I will have a look at it.
I would love to know more about the process. I can’t PM you, can you please PM me details on how to submit my case to court?amwaraich wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:29 amHello Guys,
I am back here after a long time. I already suggested you all that you must go to court but some people are too scared to go to court because it may make the department angry and they may get refusal.
I made a mistake to go to court after 2.5 years. I should have gone after 1 year as I did for my wife now. Immediately after one year she applied for JR. In the first hearing, department requested the court to give them some more time to make their submissions. The court gave them time and told them no time will be given anymore. Next hearing is coming up and department have to decide or make submissions as to why application decision is late.
One more thing, department cannot refuse application just because you went to court untill or unless you didn't disclose all the information they asked. If department refuses application for an obvious reason already disclosed in application, it will be considered malafide after such a long time. This type of refusal can further be challenged in court.
If you people want to wait indefinitely, it is your choice. The department wouldn't give a damn about it if you are patiently waiting for their convenience to work on your file.
If you are completely clueless about what to do. PM me and I will point you to the right direction.
By the way I got my approval through court. I even got my ceremony invitation through court within 5 days otherwise department was going to postpone my ceremony to the next one.
Wish you all good luck.
You don't have access to the privilege of the PM function yet as a newly registered member. Neither to send PMs or receive them.
June 2018 and I’ve been receiving the same email that some checks takes longer to certain applicants and on top of that, they told a TD establishing I am of a good character could take time! Which is facial profiling if you ask me
R.acial* profiling
Did you receive 2nd stage letter? If yes, when you got it?
2nd stage: in June (after a year and the TD correspondence with them)amwaraich wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:09 amDid you receive 2nd stage letter? If yes, when you got it?
You got any court convictions? If yes, did you disclose it in your application?
You ever got social welfare payments? If yes, did you disclose it in your application?
Have you got all record of correspondences of any type to/from the department?
What was the basis of your application?