Medical Condition

ukspouse80 · Post by **ukspouse80** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:16 pm

Hi,

I want to know if Medical conditions (such as cancer) could be a ground for refusal in Appendix FM application especially of the applicant completed the treatment in home country and now is working as a business owner and so it proves that she is able to work without any problem.

Also, does she need to declare it at all? I could not see any questions on the form asking for medical conditions?

Post by **CR001** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:21 pm

No as that would be discrimination.

ukspouse80 · Post by **ukspouse80** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:24 pm

Thank you for your reply. then what is the purpose of paragraph 36 of the immigration rules?

Also, am I right in saying that we do not need to declare it at all?

Post by **CR001** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:27 pm

What does the specific paragraph say exactly and the link??

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm

Yes under paragraph 36 a person can be refered to medical inspector for examination if someone appears not to be in good mental or physical health.

36. A person who intends to remain in the United Kingdom for more than 6 months should normally be referred to the Medical Inspector for examination. If he produces a medical certificate he should be advised to hand it to the Medical Inspector. Any person seeking entry who mentions health or medical treatment as a reason for his visit, or who appears not to be in good mental or physical health, should also be referred to the Medical Inspector; and the Immigration Officer has discretion, which should be exercised sparingly, to refer for examination in any other case.

arash_uk · Post by **arash_uk** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:17 pm

thank you

arash_uk · Post by **arash_uk** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:17 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm
Yes under paragraph 36 a person can be refered to medical inspector for examination if someone appears not to be in good mental or physical health.
36. A person who intends to remain in the United Kingdom for more than 6 months should normally be referred to the Medical Inspector for examination. If he produces a medical certificate he should be advised to hand it to the Medical Inspector. Any person seeking entry who mentions health or medical treatment as a reason for his visit, or who appears not to be in good mental or physical health, should also be referred to the Medical Inspector; and the Immigration Officer has discretion, which should be exercised sparingly, to refer for examination in any other case.

So do you think it will be an issue? Also, do we need to declare it as it is not asked in the application form?

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:20 pm

Almost all application forms definitely ask about ones health, immigration history, crime record (if any). Wherever there is a question about health then it must be declared too which wont be the alone reason of refusal.

arash_uk · Post by **arash_uk** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:57 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:20 pm
Almost all application forms definitely ask about ones health, immigration history, crime record (if any). Wherever there is a question about health then it must be declared too which wont be the alone reason of refusal.

As far as I know there is no question regarding the health conditions in the UK visa application forms especially the Spouse visa. Please show me where are they in the forms?

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:10 pm

arash_uk wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:57 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:20 pm
Almost all application forms definitely ask about ones health, immigration history, crime record (if any). Wherever there is a question about health then it must be declared too which wont be the alone reason of refusal.
As far as I know there is no question regarding the health conditions in the UK visa application forms especially the Spouse visa. Please show me where are they in the forms?

None-applicant members can't access online form

arash_uk · Post by **arash_uk** » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:14 pm

what do you mean? it seems that have not seen the forms. you can easily take a screenshot or type the question here. I have application form in front of myself and there is not any questions related to the medical conditions!!!

Jaune08 · Post by **Jaune08** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:15 am

arash_uk wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:14 pm
what do you mean? it seems that have not seen the forms. you can easily take a screenshot or type the question here. I have application form in front of myself and there is not any questions related to the medical conditions!!!

It's like seagul has said. I've applied in June for the spouse visa and there is indeed a section for medical treatment within the UK. That means Home Office is exclusively looking for any treatment that the applicant has received and paid in the UK at any point in previous visits. They aren't asking for your medical records (i.e., cancer), only information about medical treatment received in the UK. That's all. If your cancer has been diagnosed and treated exclusively in your home country, then you don't need to declare it.

Here's a screenshot of my application form if that helps you.

If you aren't under remission yet, then once your visa is approved you must register to the NHS to continue your treatment for cancer if that's applicable.

ukspouse80 · Post by **ukspouse80** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:31 am

thank you all and your help. I saw this section but it was very different from declaring my medical conditions and it is only related to treatments in the UK (as you yourself said)

Thanks

JJR · Post by **JJR** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi sorry I didn't know that there were questions about the applicant's medical treatment history in the UK? My partner has Type 1 diabetes and has had treatment here while visiting me, but he only sought that knowing that the UK and New Zealand have a reciprocal arrangement regarding medical treatment. Will admitting this affect his application?

Post by **CR001** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:28 pm

JJR wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:19 pm
Hi sorry I didn't know that there were questions about the applicant's medical treatment history in the UK? My partner has Type 1 diabetes and has had treatment here while visiting me, but he only sought that knowing that the UK and New Zealand have a reciprocal arrangement regarding medical treatment. Will admitting this affect his application?

1. You should please keep all your questions in your own thread.

2. If there is a reciprocal agreement then it should be ok. You would still need to declare it.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:05 pm

JJR wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:19 pm
Hi sorry I didn't know that there were questions about the applicant's medical treatment history in the UK? My partner has Type 1 diabetes and has had treatment here while visiting me, but he only sought that knowing that the UK and New Zealand have a reciprocal arrangement regarding medical treatment. Will admitting this affect his application?

Read further about it in depth here:

https://www.health.govt.nz/new-zealand- ... agreements

Jaune08 · Post by **Jaune08** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:58 pm

JJR wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:19 pm
Hi sorry I didn't know that there were questions about the applicant's medical treatment history in the UK? My partner has Type 1 diabetes and has had treatment here while visiting me, but he only sought that knowing that the UK and New Zealand have a reciprocal arrangement regarding medical treatment. Will admitting this affect his application?

He needs to declare what type of medical attention he received during his stay as visitor (e.g., A&E, GP appointment, hospital intervention), and if you have the vouchers + prescriptions, you can include them. Due to the reciprocal health agreement, it shouldn't affect his application.

New Zealanders travelling to the UK or Australia wrote:(2) Note that the UK interprets ‘temporary stay’ as a stay of up to six months. New Zealanders travelling to the UK for longer than six months will still have access to the National Health Service, but will be required to pay an immigration health surcharge as part of their visa application from 6 April 2016. For more information, please visit the www.gov.uk website.

JJR · Post by **JJR** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:05 pm

Thank you for your help and apologies for posting in someone else's thread.

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