Threshold Income as Couple with kids Universal credit

Have come to know that in UC their is claimant commitment where both parter need to work

But I Have come to know that if income threshold is met then even if one Partner alone works then other dosent need to work.


Please if possible throw some light on this please.

husband wife and 4 kids all under age of 13 and above age of 3.

Husband works full time 40 hours so what can be threshold for both so only one can work and other can look at the family.

smir wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:09 pm

Have come to know that in UC their is claimant commitment where both parter need to work

But I Have come to know that if income threshold is met then even if one Partner alone works then other dosent need to work.


Please if possible throw some light on this please.

husband wife and 4 kids all under age of 13 and above age of 3.

Husband works full time 40 hours so what can be threshold for both so only one can work and other can look at the family.

There isn't a threshold limit as such on Universal Credit. It has different rules and regulations to most of the benefits it is replacing, including Tax Credits. e.g with UC you cannot claim extra benefit money for a partner that is No Recourse to Public Funds.
claiming-benefits/universal-credit-clai ... 02126.html

https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/eligibility

Both parents to work on Universal Credit and this is based on the number of hours they are required to work, with their earnings minimum based on the national hourly minimum wage. One parent can earn both parents minimum amount. You can read more here
https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit/you ... sibilities

If your wife or children are on No Recource to Public Funds, you should read these two links-
https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guid ... ion-contro

https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guid ... de-content

AND this-

However, as noted in CPAG Benefits for Migrants, where the the UC claimant and the partner with NRPF are joint tenants with other joint tenants, the calculation could result in extra housing costs being payable to the claimant due to the presence of the partner with NRPF.¹⁶ In which case specialist immigration advice would be needed before making a UC claim.

...

Also there is an additional problem if the person with recourse were entitled to a single person discount in their council tax, in which case CTR is calculated on 75% of liability. If the presence of the partner with NRPF results in the loss of the single person discount, CTR is then calculated on 100% of liability, which could result in additional public funds being paid to the claimant.

Again, specialist immigration advice should be sought before advising a claim for CTR,or indeed in any circumstances where there may be a concern about breaching the NRPF conditions attached to a partner’s leave.

Thanks really helpful
Means If children are under 13, partner need to work 25 Hours per week.

So if full working partner need to work atleasr 35 hours plus 25 hours of partner if children below age of 13

Total 60 hours

Pay rate £9.50 PH

Do threshold should be £570 per week as a couple

Hope this is correct



Also NRPF remains issue for partner


But if partner is not getting element still her hours of work need to be shown ?

smir wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:03 pm

Thanks really helpful
Means If children are under 13, partner need to work 25 Hours per week.

So if full working partner need to work atleasr 35 hours plus 25 hours of partner if children below age of 13

Total 60 hours

Pay rate £9.50 PH

Do threshold should be £570 per week as a couple

Hope this is correct

Just tlo be clear, I'm not a benefit advisor, I just read the govenrnment site and links. I aslo don't claim Universal Credit and never have done.

My understanding is that if there is no exemption, from the chart, it will be 16 hours a week if the youngest child is age 3. Universal Credit claimants have to sign a Claimant Commitment, to be able to claim UC and that should state the parents work requirments (hours at the NMW) for each parent.

Except the Universal Credit is a monthly payment, so you need to work that out for each month, to meet the requirments for that parent to avoid the job centre/go on courses/prove they are looking for work for the required hours e.g. 16 hours a week spent looking for work.

The miniumum wage increases every year. And the hours of work required will increase for one parent, as the youngest child gets older.

Also note that just like the Tax Credit welfare benefit that Universal Credit replaces, UC also has the same rules for the 2 child limit.

smir wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 26, 2022 12:03 pm

Also NRPF remains issue for partner


But if partner is not getting element still her hours of work need to be shown ?

As the links I gave above advise, you should take advice from an immigration specialist before you claim any public funds if your partner or child is NRPF. e.g. the housing element of Universal Credit is worked out differently to the welfare benefit called Housing Benefit (that Universal Credit is also replacing).

Unlike the short lived welfare benefitt called Tax Credit (that Universal Credit is alo replacing) on UC you cannot have extra benefit money for a NRPF partner. I have no idea of how that will work for your wife's required working hours, but others on here who claim Universal Credit, might know.

Looking back throught some of your posts, it seems you have claimed welfare benefits before.
claiming-benefits/evicted-by-court-orde ... l#p1475384

Are you still on welfare benefits? If so, which ones?

If you move yourself to the Universal Credit welfare benefit, you cannot go back to he benefits that UC is replacing. You might be worse off on the UC benefit e.g. being given less benefit money, both parents to work on UC etc.

If you are thinking about moving to Universal Credit: in addition to taking advice from an immigration advisor about those in your family who are No Recourse to Public Funds before you claim Universal Credit, you should also get a benefit calculation carriied out to see if you will be worse off on Universal Credit. Those that are better off on Universal Credit, can move themselves to UC.

If you have heard on the various adverts that everyone is getting moved off the old (legacy) benefits and on to Universal Credit by 2024, then there is often some limited transitonal protection for those who are moved over (they didn't move themselves and didn't do anthing to trigger a move to UC), although not for many and not much.

JB007 wrote: ↑

Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:07 pm

If you have heard on the various adverts that everyone is getting moved off the old (legacy) benefits and on to Universal Credit by 2024, then there is often some limited transitonal protection for those who are moved over (they didn't move themselves and didn't do anthing to trigger a move to UC), although not for many and not much.

You can find sites online that gives an idea what might trigger a move to Universal Credit and therefore no transitional protection is given (for a limited time, if any if given).

What changes in circumstances might trigger a move to Universal Credit
https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/chang ... sal-Credit