Russell59 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:09 am
The People have voted and their choice was to leave and that is the final word.
Regardless of the merits or demerits of Brexit,
a) things that start with "The People" tend to be tyrannical/dictatorial (cf the People's Democratic Republic of China, etc, though thankfully the People's Post Office has not gone down that route) and it may be better to phrase it in other ways.
b) there is no reason to suppose that "that is the final word", for at least five reasons.
i) One does not always get what one wishes. One needs to negotiate, and in this case, we are negotiating from a position of weakness (we are decidedly smaller than the EU27 in economic terms).
ii) People change. Minds can be changed. That is the whole basis of any democratic system, that people can and do change minds. Otherwise, one election per generation is all that is needed.
iii) The electorate does change and has changed, not only with births and deaths, but with many formerly EEA citizens (without a vote) getting British citizenship and therefore the vote.
iv) "Events, dear boy, events". Events outside Brexit may have an impact on how Brexit occurs and if the end result is far from what was voted for, it is possible that people will change their mind. It would then be unfair to not stop a process started by the people's will.
v) There is many a slip betwixt cup and lip
Having said that, I am surprised that the Survation poll found that 46% of the UK still wants Brexit, given what we now know about how difficult Brexit would be, the impact on jobs, etc. If with such full knowledge of the effect of Brexit, 46% of the country still want Brexit, then Remainers have to ask why and attempt to address the concerns of the 46%.
As an aside, a few posts on Twitter suggest that the EU will not support a second referendum/People's Vote. The EU27 want Brexit to be done and dusted, so that they can focus on their other issues (populism within the EU27, Poland and Hungary, the Italian budget, etc). It seems that they will tell the Remainers that the deal will be a take-it-or-leave-it deal. There is essentially now way back now, even from the EU's side.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.