Flr fp 5 year

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:50 pm

Sorry guys, i changed my mind (too risky) so decided to go for flr fp 5 year parent route. So i am posting here from now on.
I have a question,
rule says " general ground for refusal do not apply to an application under Appendix FM, Except 320(3),(10),(11).
320(3)and (10) are regarding valid identity but 320(11) says -
(11) where the applicant has previously contrived in a significant way to frustrate the intentions of the Rules by:
(i) overstaying; or
(ii) breaching a condition attached to his leave; or
(iii) being an illegal entrant; or
(iv) using deception in an application for entry clearance, leave to enter or remain or in order to obtain documents from the Secretary of State or a third party required in support of the application (whether successful or not);
and there are other aggravating circumstances, such as absconding, not meeting temporary admission/reporting restrictions or bail conditions, using an assumed identity or multiple identities, switching nationality, making frivolous applications or not complying with the re-documentation process.

I have a breach but i dont have other aggravating circumstances. Does that mean i dont fall under 320(11).
Thank you.

TODMATT · Post by **TODMATT** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:42 am

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:50 pm
Sorry guys, i changed my mind (too risky) so decided to go for flr fp 5 year parent route. So i am posting here from now on.
I have a question,
rule says " general ground for refusal do not apply to an application under Appendix FM, Except 320(3),(10),(11).
320(3)and (10) are regarding valid identity but 320(11) says -
(11) where the applicant has previously contrived in a significant way to frustrate the intentions of the Rules by:
(i) overstaying; or
(ii) breaching a condition attached to his leave; or
(iii) being an illegal entrant; or
(iv) using deception in an application for entry clearance, leave to enter or remain or in order to obtain documents from the Secretary of State or a third party required in support of the application (whether successful or not);
and there are other aggravating circumstances, such as absconding, not meeting temporary admission/reporting restrictions or bail conditions, using an assumed identity or multiple identities, switching nationality, making frivolous applications or not complying with the re-documentation process.

I have a breach but i dont have other aggravating circumstances. Does that mean i dont fall under 320(11).
Thank you.

What type of breach?

CR001 · Post by **CR001** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:48 am

TODMATT wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:42 am
What type of breach?

OP worked more than 20 hours per week for a year while on a student visa that had a NO WORK condition attached. See previous lengthy topic below.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/indef ... l#p1868485

TODMATT · Post by **TODMATT** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:42 am

CR001 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:48 am

TODMATT wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:42 am
What type of breach?
OP worked more than 20 hours per week for a year while on a student visa that had a NO WORK condition attached. See previous lengthy topic below.

https://www.immigrationboards.com/indef ... l#p1868485

Thanks for the information CR001

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:07 am

Hi,
Iam on a sharing 3 bedroom house as a lodger, Occupant are , 1 landlord, 1 other lodger and me ( plus my 7 years old son comes to live with me 2 nights a week. Home owner has agreed to provide me letter and i have informal lodger agreement.
Is this document sufficient to meet the requirements for accommodation?
Or
Should i have immigration accommodation audit done by council ?
Thank you.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:21 am

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:07 am
Hi,
Iam on a sharing 3 bedroom house as a lodger, Occupant are , 1 landlord, 1 other lodger and me ( plus my 7 years old son comes to live with me 2 nights a week. Home owner has agreed to provide me letter and i have informal lodger agreement.
Is this document sufficient to meet the requirements for accommodation?
Or
Should i have immigration accommodation audit done by council ?
Thank you.

You will need a formal lodger agreement and home inspection report from any reasonably established estate agent. Also check whether the property is HMO.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 am

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:21 am

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:07 am
Hi,
Iam on a sharing 3 bedroom house as a lodger, Occupant are , 1 landlord, 1 other lodger and me ( plus my 7 years old son comes to live with me 2 nights a week. Home owner has agreed to provide me letter and i have informal lodger agreement.
Is this document sufficient to meet the requirements for accommodation?
Or
Should i have immigration accommodation audit done by council ?
Thank you.
You will need a formal lodger agreement and home inspection report from any reasonably established estate agent. Also check whether the property is HMO.

Thank you for your reply.
I have lodger agreement thats printed from spareroom website.
My council does that inspection report but cost is £275.
No, property isn't HMO.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:54 am

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 am

Thank you for your reply.
I have lodger agreement thats printed from spareroom website.

You and your landlord need to fill and sign it accordingly.

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 am
My council does that inspection report but cost is £275.
.

Speak to your local letting agent who might do same at significantly lowered cost than that. But first take permission from your landlord.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:54 am

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 am

Thank you for your reply.
I have lodger agreement thats printed from spareroom website.
You and your landlord need to fill and sign it accordingly.
ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:41 am
My council does that inspection report but cost is £275.
.
Speak to your local letting agent who might do same at significantly lowered cost than that. But first take permission from your landlord.

Yes , we both signed that when i moved in.
I looked online but can't see anyone offering this service apart from council.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:11 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm

I looked online but can't see anyone offering this service apart from council.

Talk to them in person and most of them might visit you in minutes. Most don't advertise it online.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:11 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm

I looked online but can't see anyone offering this service apart from council.
Talk to them in person and most of them might visit you in minutes. Most don't advertise it online.

Will i have to provide original property ownership documents to ukvi from my landlord ?

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:12 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:11 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm

I looked online but can't see anyone offering this service apart from council.
Talk to them in person and most of them might visit you in minutes. Most don't advertise it online.
Will i have to provide original property ownership documents to ukvi from my landlord ?

No

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:41 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:12 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:08 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:11 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:28 pm

I looked online but can't see anyone offering this service apart from council.
Talk to them in person and most of them might visit you in minutes. Most don't advertise it online.
Will i have to provide original property ownership documents to ukvi from my landlord ?
No

Cool. Thanks.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm

Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:01 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.

There is no fixed template. It usually describe the description of property and list down of all occupiers with their location of rooms in the property. And most importantly confirms that there won't be any overcrowding with the arrival of extra occupant. Ideally let aware to all occupants in advance so that they don't get astounded at later.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:10 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:01 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.
There is no fixed template. It usually describe the description of property and list down of all occupiers with their location of rooms in the property. And most importantly confirms that there won't be any overcrowding with the arrival of extra occupant. Ideally let aware to all occupants in advance so that they don't get astounded at later.

Thank you. Does it require room size measurements too ?

AmazonianX · Post by **AmazonianX** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:51 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:10 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:01 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.
There is no fixed template. It usually describe the description of property and list down of all occupiers with their location of rooms in the property. And most importantly confirms that there won't be any overcrowding with the arrival of extra occupant. Ideally let aware to all occupants in advance so that they don't get astounded at later.
Thank you. Does it require room size measurements too ? Yes, the housing inspection report must show the dimensions of the spaces available in the accommodation.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:44 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:10 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:01 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.
There is no fixed template. It usually describe the description of property and list down of all occupiers with their location of rooms in the property. And most importantly confirms that there won't be any overcrowding with the arrival of extra occupant. Ideally let aware to all occupants in advance so that they don't get astounded at later.
Thank you. Does it require room size measurements too ?

Only those rooms having at least the size of 50 square feet will be counted. Also if the landlord/other lodger is living along with their family then property may become HMO.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:44 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:10 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:01 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:53 pm
Hi,
I am going to the estate agent tomorrow to see if they carry out 'house inspection report' for immigration purpose or not. Its a small town so if they say they haven't done it before but they are happy to report one for me, what information must include in the report? Is there any template that i can suggest them to follow?
Thank you.
There is no fixed template. It usually describe the description of property and list down of all occupiers with their location of rooms in the property. And most importantly confirms that there won't be any overcrowding with the arrival of extra occupant. Ideally let aware to all occupants in advance so that they don't get astounded at later.
Thank you. Does it require room size measurements too ?
Only those rooms having at least the size of 50 square feet will be counted. Also if the landlord/other lodger is living along with their family then property may become HMO.

My landlord said its not a hmo, but if it is then is there gonna be a problem even if it not overcrowded.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:18 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 pm
, but if it is then is there gonna be a problem even if it not overcrowded.

In that case HMO licence will be needed. As per your first post there is one landlord, you and another lodger is living and if that's the case then no HMO licence will need. Otherwise if they are living with their family which you haven't yet confirmed then its HMO (same as said earlier).

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:59 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:18 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 pm
, but if it is then is there gonna be a problem even if it not overcrowded.
In that case HMO licence will be needed. As per your first post there is one landlord, you and another lodger is living and if that's the case then no HMO licence will need. Otherwise if they are living with their family which you haven't yet confirmed then its HMO (same as said earlier).

No, they both live single. But my son stays with me at least 2 nights a week.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:15 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:59 pm

seagul wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:18 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:04 pm
, but if it is then is there gonna be a problem even if it not overcrowded.
In that case HMO licence will be needed. As per your first post there is one landlord, you and another lodger is living and if that's the case then no HMO licence will need. Otherwise if they are living with their family which you haven't yet confirmed then its HMO (same as said earlier).

No, they both live single. But my son stays with me at least 2 nights a week.

Then its not HMO . just stick to what previously has been advised.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:01 pm

Hi,
Today i went to 3 estate agent and all of them said they don't do inspection report in relation to immigration! They were like 'its something unheard of'. I guess local council is my last resort.

seagul · Post by **seagul** » Wed Aug 05, 2020 8:19 pm

ssasi2020 wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:01 pm
I guess local council is my last resort.

No harm in trying them but speak first to your landlord same as advised earlier because most landlords usually are reluctant to face them due to their formidable inspection.

ssasi2020 · Post by **ssasi2020** » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:24 am

Is gas safety certificate is mandatory for house inspection report?
Council is asking for it and saying it needs to be dated in last 12 months.
Do private inspection body ask for this certificate that dated in last 12 months?

Thanks

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