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UPDATE: The time spent under furloughed does NOT countZimba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:16 pmFurlough as far as I'm concerned should be viewed as normal full time work with reduced new hourly rate unless UKVI says otherwise. Tier 1E rules do not care about 80% or 100% or whatever. You can assume this period is like hourly rate change. Tier 1E rules do not care how much you pay your employee as long as they are paid above min wage.
Time when your employees were furloughed will not count towards the 12 month periodAaina wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:20 amHi Marc,
You have mentioned above that being furloughed won't impact the job qualification period, however the intro topic - new guidelines mention this:
"Time when your employees were furloughed will not count towards the 12 month period"
Please let me know.
Thanks
Aaina
That is correct. I have tried to correct myself in various posts - missed yours.Aaina wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 9:20 amHi Marc,
You have mentioned above that being furloughed won't impact the job qualification period, however the intro topic - new guidelines mention this:
"Time when your employees were furloughed will not count towards the 12 month period"
Please let me know.
Thanks
Aaina
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus ... -residentsIf you are on a Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa and your business has been disrupted
You no longer need to employ at least 2 people for 12 consecutive months each. The 12 month period you are required to employ someone for can be made up of multiple employees across different months.
Time when your employees were furloughed will not count towards the 12 month period.
If have not been able to employ staff for 12 months in total by the time your visa expires, you will be allowed to temporarily extend your stay to give you time to meet the requirement.
These arrangements will continue for applications made after 31 May 2020, where the jobs you are relying on were disrupted due to COVID-19.
As you said, details are scant. We need to await an updated guidance document.Camel555 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 6:17 pmThanks Zimba, I have just read it now, at least they gave us the extension option but still few points. I know its all evolving situation and you might not be able to comment but worth mentioning these points: pls comment
Will they take fee for this extension, and how will this extension work, would the lost time be added into new extension or how?
My one job requirement is fulfilled since Feb2020 but the other job is on the edge with my extension which is due in June, this second job was created in May 2019. I furloughed my employees from 16th March, and from 1st till 15th march, their hours exceed the 30/week requirement. So does the march period count as employed time?
What if someone is stuck outside UK and cant come back before their visa expires?
mig2015 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:01 pmThey are not. It is very clear now as explained aboveZimba wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:11 amHi Zimba,
Earlier I asked about the "small business grant funding of £10,000 for all business in receipt of small business rate relief or rural rate relief",
what is your take on the situation after all the updates, do you think it's still unclear whether it's public funds?
This is okay for T1E to get below and not violating "no public funds" rule.CR001 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:49 amUpdated guidance.
http://www.nrpfnetwork.org.uk/Documents ... tsheet.pdf
... The following assistance can be claimed by a person who has no recourse to public funds (NRPF) ...
Statutory Sick Pay (SSP)
Contributory-based Employment and Support Allowance (ESA)
Wages paid through the Coronavirus Job Retention Scheme (‘furloughed workers’)
Assistance for businesses and people who are self-employed, as outlined in this government guidance
Benefits that are listed here (under ‘work related benefits’) -> http://www.nrpfnetwork.org.uk/informati ... x#benefits
...
Please read earlier posts in this thread. This has been clarified.happyguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 1:43 pmDear Moderators
I am on Tier 1 entrepreneur 200k visa since july 2015 and due to apply for ILR in june 2020
I applied for the 10,000 business rates grant scheme one week earlier and today
I have received the GBP 10,000 grant from business rates grant scheme in company business account. Before that I emailed to home office and local government about whether these funds are considered as recourse to public funds or not, but everybody is confused nobody knows the answer.So I need to find out from you whether these funds are ok for my company or shall I refund this payment back .
Yeshappyguy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:06 pmDear Marcnath
I have read the posts in earlier threads which you posted. It means these funds clearly will not be considered as public fund. So there is no problem whatsoever as far as immigration rules are concerned as I am applying for ILR in the next 2 months.I can accept and utilise these funds for business. Please Marcnath reply to this.
10 year long residence ILR does NOT have the same requirements as ILR based on Tier 1. Long residence is ONLY based on 10 years legal stay, not job creation etc.wanttostayintheuk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:36 pmI understand we can furlough employees, and that these months will not count towards the 12 month total required; I also understand they will extend our visas so that we may finish the 12 months required. However, I am still wondering: how will these 'lost months' where we have furloughed our employees factor into ILR? Will they not be counted towards the end total? I am working towards a 10 year long residence, but I assume the answer will apply to both the ten year and five year routes.
Job requirements have no impact on Long Residence ILRwanttostayintheuk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:36 pmI understand we can furlough employees, and that these months will not count towards the 12 month total required; I also understand they will extend our visas so that we may finish the 12 months required. However, I am still wondering: how will these 'lost months' where we have furloughed our employees factor into ILR? Will they not be counted towards the end total? I am working towards a 10 year long residence, but I assume the answer will apply to both the ten year and five year routes.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE READ what has been posted BEFORE in this threadwanttostayintheuk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:45 pmThanks guys, I guess I just wanted to make sure that the months where employees were being furloughed would not be 'discounted' towards ILR - almost as if they didn't happen. But it sounds like you are saying that for Long Residence ILR, as long a I had a continuous 10 years legal stay etc - it will all be counted?
No, you can't. Employment law is still applicable and applies to all furloughed employeeswanttostayintheuk wrote: ↑Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:57 pmHi guys, thanks for the info. Something I’m still unclear on having read previous posts - if we are furloughing employers, can the 80 percent pay we give them fall below the normal minimum wage? Since these months are not being counted towards the 12 month total, it seems like a furloughed employee getting 80 percent of their usual pay would not have to be paid a full minimum wage during this time. Thoughts?