Urgent help needed for extension confusion !!!!

Post by **zimba** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:59 pm

Congratulations

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:23 pm

zimba88 wrote:Congratulations

Thanks alot Zimba again... I would need some more help from you regarding t1 ent dependent (outside first time entry clearance)..

Solicitor is saying you have to show £630 for your wife and £945 for yourself even you got approval..

Could you please show me any paragraph or page number in policy guidance i can show him....

Because £630 is ready with me but not the sum of £1600 (including £945 for me). Again i have to wait for 3 months for new bank statement showing nearly £1600 maintenance.

Thanks for your time...

Momi · Post by **Momi** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:30 pm

Many congratulations albeit most applicants are receiving complex letter and getting decisions after 3-4 months.
You are very lucky you got approval quickly.

Mak9878 wrote:Hi Zimba,

With the blessing of God Almighty, I have successfully got the extension approved today. Thank you Zimba very much for your valuable guidance on accounts correction and putting withdrawal salary back into business account at very near time... God Bless you a lot...

My Timeline:
Posted=27-03-17
Acknowledgment and Biometric letter together received=04-05-17
Biometric Given=18-05-17
Delay Letter received (not complex)= 24-05-17
Approval letter= 02-06-17

Thanks everyone, seniors and juniors too for their valuable suggestion and guidance.

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:34 pm

[quote="Momi"]Many congratulations albeit most applicants are receiving complex letter and getting decisions after 3-4 months.
You are very lucky you got approval quickly.

[/quote="Momi"]

Thanks Momi, All praises is to God Almighty who made it easier for me and support of you all.

Post by **zimba** » Tue Jun 06, 2017 2:46 pm

Mak9878 wrote:
I would need some more help from you regarding t1 ent dependent (outside first time entry clearance)..
Solicitor is saying you have to show £630 for your wife and £945 for yourself even you got approval..
Could you please show me any paragraph or page number in policy guidance i can show him....
Because £630 is ready with me but not the sum of £1600 (including £945 for me). Again i have to wait for 3 months for new bank statement showing nearly £1600 maintenance.

See: uk-tier-1-entrepreneur-visas/tier-1-e-5 ... l#p1487648

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:24 pm

Hi Zimba,

I am confused that do we need to ask accountant to put starter or leavers date in first Rti-Fps submission after successful extension to HMRC.

I have same employees working throughout previous year on which i claimed points, but they have just chosen to work part time now.

Shall I ask him to put start date (after visa approval date ) before accountant submit first RTI-FPS information to HMRC. if it is required?

and I am thinking to change my business account from Barclays to Natwest (natwest is offering 2 yrs free of charge account plus other good options), will it affect my indefinite application on tier-1 entrepreneur after 2 yrs?

Thanks

Post by **zimba** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:44 pm

I am confused that do we need to ask accountant to put starter or leavers date in first Rti-Fps submission after successful extension to HMRC.
I have same employees working throughout previous year on which i claimed points, but they have just chosen to work part time now.
Shall I ask him to put start date (after visa approval date ) before accountant submit first RTI-FPS information to HMRC. if it is required?

I do not know what you are talking about. Start date will not change because they are now part time. If they are continuing, nothing changes. Start/end date has nothing to do with pay rates

and I am thinking to change my business account from Barclays to Natwest (natwest is offering 2 yrs free of charge account plus other good options), will it affect my indefinite application on tier-1 entrepreneur after 2 yrs?

Why would this affect your ILR ??!

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:50 pm

zimba88 wrote:
I am confused that do we need to ask accountant to put starter or leavers date in first Rti-Fps submission after successful extension to HMRC.
I have same employees working throughout previous year on which i claimed points, but they have just chosen to work part time now.
Shall I ask him to put start date (after visa approval date ) before accountant submit first RTI-FPS information to HMRC. if it is required?
I do not know what you are talking about. Start date will not change because they are now part time. If they are continuing, nothing changes. Start/end date has nothing to do with pay rates

and I am thinking to change my business account from Barclays to Natwest (natwest is offering 2 yrs free of charge account plus other good options), will it affect my indefinite application on tier-1 entrepreneur after 2 yrs?
Why would this affect your ILR ??!

I was talking regarding the date of approval, we have to show employment onward for 12 months full time or 24 months part time or equivalent 3120 hrs. So any waiting period after application submitted is not counted for employment created (job creation points) . Right.

During extension application preparation, the RTI-FPS given by accountant had starter and leavers dates.

In this regard, i wanted to ask regarding RTI-FPS submission by accountant every month that do i need to show my existing employees starting date (new fresh dates) from the date of approval of visa?
OR it is simply understood by HO that they have to count from the point of approval.

Thanks

Post by **zimba** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:27 pm

You are confusing yourself. The actual starting date of an employee has NOTHING to do with the starting period for award of points.
You must send FPS showing the actual start date (same one you send for extension) PLUS the 12 months FPS for the period you are claiming points for.

Example: Your employee started two years ago and you want to claim points for work done between June 2018 to June 2019 for ILR.
You send that FPS from June 2015 showing the actual start date.
You also send 12 months FPS from June 2018 to June 19 for award of points towards your ILR.

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:23 am

zimba88 wrote:You are confusing yourself. The actual starting date of an employee has NOTHING to do with the starting period for award of points.
You must send FPS showing the actual start date (same one you send for extension) PLUS the 12 months FPS for the period you are claiming points for.

Example: Your employee started two years ago and you want to claim points for work done between June 2018 to June 2019 for ILR.
You send that FPS from June 2015 showing the actual start date.
You also send 12 months FPS from June 2018 to June 19 for award of points towards your ILR.

Yes, thats the better explanation to send both previous and new fps.

Thanks Zimba

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:01 am

Hi Zimba,

Hope you are at the best of your health...I have urgent question to ask regarding pension scheme having staging date of August,2017.

I spoke to my accountant regarding enrollment of pension scheme, he said you are not eligible because your all employees are part time now and earn less than £10k yearly and if it is over than you have to fill form for registration...

Further he said that at this time we will just inform pension scheme that we have part time employees and we we do not meet requirement to enrol for pension schme and they will delist your company from pension scheme requirement.

My question is, not enrolling to pension scheme will create any problem to ILR after 2 yrs in terms of job creation or working regulation etc?

Post by **marcnath** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:50 am

Mak9878 wrote:Hi Zimba,

Hope you are at the best of your health...I have urgent question to ask regarding pension scheme having staging date of August,2017.

I spoke to my accountant regarding enrollment of pension scheme, he said you are not eligible because your all employees are part time now and earn less than £10k yearly and if it is over than you have to fill form for registration...

Further he said that at this time we will just inform pension scheme that we have part time employees and we we do not meet requirement to enrol for pension schme and they will delist your company from pension scheme requirement.

My question is, not enrolling to pension scheme will create any problem to ILR after 2 yrs in terms of job creation or working regulation etc?

Pension rules are separate from immigration rules. This seems to keep popping up in this forum now.

Immigration rules only require that you follow all work regulations (and that includes pension regulations).

So, as long as you are doing what the pension regulations call for, you have no impact on immigration applications

Post by **zimba** » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:48 am

Workplace pensions: http://www.workplacepensions.gov.uk/employer/

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:52 pm

Hi Zimba ,

Hope you are at best of your health. I m here to ask your valuable suggestion tier 1 entrepreneur dependent (post extension):

My wife is doctor and taught throuout in english language...To meet her english requirement for first time entry clearance.

1) is it better to apply UKNaric english proficiency equivalency.. fees are nearly the same for B1..

2) Will Uknaric or B1 work for her throughout means when i will apply for ILR or when she will apply for ILR (after 5 yrs) apart from Life in the uk test.

3) My friend wife gave A1 or A2 which is higher than B1 and he says it can work for all future application for her...whether she change her category to FLR-M on ILR dependent or remain as Tier 1 entrepreneur dependent.

What do u suggest and can u provide me link for acceptle and recognised overseas instituition by UKVI for english test.

4) This is related to ILR Set (O) form section asking for how much you earn or houshold income. As u know I am not withdrawing any salary at the moment due to again i dont need to inject investment funds scare but obviously next year I have to meet financial requirement for dependent (£18,600)...will that be ok.

5) Another last question regarding employment, my two employees are working part time 20hrs per week...How many months they would have to work for meeting 3120 hrs requirment?

In my view 2 x 20hrs x 52= 2080 hrs annually
2080/12= 173.333 hrs monthly for two employees
So 173.333 x 18 months = 3120 hrs ...

Thanks.

Post by **marcnath** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:13 pm

Mak9878 wrote:Hi Zimba ,

Hope you are at best of your health. I m here to ask your valuable suggestion tier 1 entrepreneur dependent (post extension):

My wife is doctor and taught throuout in english language...To meet her english requirement for first time entry clearance.

1) is it better to apply UKNaric english proficiency equivalency.. fees are nearly the same for B1..

2) Will Uknaric or B1 work for her throughout means when i will apply for ILR or when she will apply for ILR (after 5 yrs) apart from Life in the uk test.

3) My friend wife gave A1 or A2 which is higher than B1 and he says it can work for all future application for her...whether she change her category to FLR-M on ILR dependent or remain as Tier 1 entrepreneur dependent.

What do u suggest and can u provide me link for acceptle and recognised overseas instituition by UKVI for english test.

There is no language requirement for PBS dependant, so not sure why you are looking at this now ?

Mak9878 wrote:4) This is related to ILR Set (O) form section asking for how much you earn or houshold income. As u know I am not withdrawing any salary at the moment due to again i dont need to inject investment funds scare but obviously next year I have to meet financial requirement for dependent (£18,600)...will that be ok.

There is no income requirement for Tier 1 settlement. You will have to show that you can maintain yourself, but it is not tied to any specific amount.

Mak9878 wrote:5) Another last question regarding employment, my two employees are working part time 20hrs per week...How many months they would have to work for meeting 3120 hrs requirment?

In my view 2 x 20hrs x 52= 2080 hrs annually
2080/12= 173.333 hrs monthly for two employees
So 173.333 x 18 months = 3120 hrs ...

Thanks.

As repeatedly mentioned, DO NOT count total hours. The requirement is 104 weeks of minimum 30 hrs each.

Two PT employees combined is 2x20 = 40 hrs/week. But anything more than 30 hrs/week is not counted.

So each of your employees will have to work for 24 months each to meet the requirement.

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Thanks Marcnath for your valuable reply..

I saw the english test requirement somewhere in Tier 1 Pbs dependent but don't remember where or i read wrong policy guidance.. If there is no requirement thats good news for bringing her from outside first entry clearance.

1) As far as the employee hours are concerned, if there is 3 employees with 20 hours part time.

So 3 x 20 x 52= 3120 hours in a year.. zimba confirmed it is counted like this... so here hours are counted above 30 towards completion of requirement....so why not in two employees upto 18 months.

2) When applying ILR on basis of 5 years, do we really don't need to show salary of £18600 to support
one dependent?

3) one more question, when i would apply for ILR on 5 years entrepreneur route?

Initial Application
Sent Application = start of March 2014
Approval letter = end of March 2014
visa issued date on brp = was different i.e. mid of April 2014

Extension Application
Sent application: end of March 2017
approval letter dated and brp same= start of June 2017 and expiring start of June 2019.

According to initial application
a)When do i have to apply start of june 2019 when visa run out?
b) Do i have to apply in end of March 2019 including submission and application waiting times if accepted?
c) Do we have to apply 28 before 5 yrs in both (a) and (b) situations.

Thanks Marcnath for your valuable time and answers..

Post by **marcnath** » Sun Jul 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Mak9878 wrote: 1) As far as the employee hours are concerned, if there is 3 employees with 20 hours part time.

So 3 x 20 x 52= 3120 hours in a year.. zimba confirmed it is counted like this... so here hours are counted above 30 towards completion of requirement....so why not in two employees upto 18 months.

I can't answer for Zimba but I am quite confident that you misunderstood something Zimba said - go back and look at it more carefully.

Mak9878 wrote:2) When applying ILR on basis of 5 years, do we really don't need to show salary of £18600 to support one dependent?

No, there is no specific amount.

Mak9878 wrote:3) one more question, when i would apply for ILR on 5 years entrepreneur route?

Initial Application
Sent Application = start of March 2014
Approval letter = end of March 2014
visa issued date on brp = was different i.e. mid of April 2014

Extension Application
Sent application: end of March 2017
approval letter dated and brp same= start of June 2017 and expiring start of June 2019.

According to initial application
a)When do i have to apply start of june 2019 when visa run out?
b) Do i have to apply in end of March 2019 including submission and application waiting times if accepted?
c) Do we have to apply 28 before 5 yrs in both (a) and (b) situations.

Thanks Marcnath for your valuable time and answers..

The earliest you can apply us 28 days before you complete 5 years of lawful stay, so somewhere in March. Of course, you can apply anytime after that.

stars309 · Post by **stars309** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:49 pm

Hi

Mak9878 and Zimba.

I am very confused. I am same situation as mak9878. I am self employed and business made profit in one year Nd loss in another. My solicitor didnt tell me until now and now i Am fue to apply next week and he is saying as i have shown around £8000 salary i will have to put it in personal account and than transfer to business account.

Now my question should i do that as i can see mak9878 has done that???

Also should i put cash in personal account or again get it from third party where i got all my £50,000??

Kindly pls advise me. I am very confused and tensed about it as i dont much time.

Post by **CR001** » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:42 pm

stars309 wrote:Hi

Mak9878 and Zimba.

I am very confused. I am same situation as mak9878. I am self employed and business made profit in one year Nd loss in another. My solicitor didnt tell me until now and now i Am fue to apply next week and he is saying as i have shown around £8000 salary i will have to put it in personal account and than transfer to business account.

Now my question should i do that as i can see mak9878 has done that???

Also should i put cash in personal account or again get it from third party where i got all my £50,000??

Kindly pls advise me. I am very confused and tensed about it as i dont much time.

It would be more helpful if you started your own topic rather than tagging onto another members long running thread. It is considered rude and creates confusion when members respond.

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm

Hi Zimba and other seniors,

I am applying for my in next month. Due to some reason i could not apply earlier.

1) passport and photograph

2) application fees

3) nhs fees

4) application form online, print and take to application centre.

5) marriage certificate

7) TB test from IOM

8- police certificate or criminal record certificate (

9) maintainance fund £630 for dependent and £945 for sponsor (has maintenance changed)

10) tenancy agreement

11) wedding photographs, calls, chat, whatsapp calls, skype calls etc

I have tenancy agreement but not survey report, what is difference between both.

Do I need to submit any business accounts or my salaries per anum (p60 etc)?

My company and home address is same...so obviously tenancy agreement is on same address..Will it make any problem?

thanks for your time and waiting for valuable suggestions.

Post by **marcnath** » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:36 pm

Mak9878 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:54 pm
Hi Zimba and other seniors,

I am applying for my in next month. Due to some reason i could not apply earlier.

1) passport and photograph

2) application fees

3) nhs fees

4) application form online, print and take to application centre.

5) marriage certificate

7) TB test from IOM

8- police certificate or criminal record certificate (

9) maintainance fund £630 for dependent and £945 for sponsor (has maintenance changed)

10) tenancy agreement

11) wedding photographs, calls, chat, whatsapp calls, skype calls etc

I have tenancy agreement but not survey report, what is difference between both. ==> Survey report is generally if you have bought the property. Not sure what it is in this context.

Do I need to submit any business accounts or my salaries per anum (p60 etc)? ==> No

My company and home address is same...so obviously tenancy agreement is on same address..Will it make any problem? ==> No

thanks for your time and waiting for valuable suggestions.

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:32 am

Thank you very much for your reply and time.

Really appreciated..

Thanks

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:10 pm

Thanks Marcnath, Zimba and other seniours and juniors for helping in completing Tier 1 Entrepreneur Partner (dependent) visa outside UK for entry clearance for my wife.

I am glad to share my wife application experience with you all of you and it may help others who are applying for their wives Tier 1 Entrepreneur Partner (Dependent) outside united kingdom for entry clearance Visa.

With blessing of God, my wife got visa in 10 working days. Below is the timeline and documentation for my wife application.

Just to let you know one thing that nowadays VFS centres do scanning of documentation, they dont send original (except passport) and they dont need the photocopied set of documentation. They just do scanning of originals. All application are sent to UKVI directly in united kindom now.

Timeline:
Applied on 1st week of April 2018 and submitted online in same week
Received message from VFS to collect application in start of 3rd week.

Documentation:

A) (WIFE - APPLICANT) DOCUMENTS:-
1. Application form.
2. Original Passport.
3. Two photographs.
4. Confirmation of payment of Visa fee for Tier 1 Entrepreneur Partner
5. Confirmation of payment of Immigration Health Surcharge (IHS)
6. Sponsor letter from husband. (just mentioned in middle that I am director of my company only).
7. Original TB Test Report from IOM Karachi
8. Copy of Provisional air ticket travel booking confirmation
9. Wedding Invitation cards from both sides.
10. Whatsapp, Skype, Facebook, and Messenger Chat history and call logs (taken all screenshot in mobile and printed).
11. Original Police Verification Report of wife.
12. Original Marriage Certificate.
13. Original birth certificate of applicant
14. Photostat copy of computerized National Identity Card in original format with translation in English.
15. Photostat copy of Family Registration Certificate in the name of my her father issued by Govt showing all the names of his legal heirs including my wife name.
16. Photostat copies of Certificates of education (not neccessary but added)

B) DOCUMENT FROM - HUSBAND/SPONSOR:-

17. Photostat copy of T1 HS Entrepreneur with all visas
18. Photostat copies of all passports (New and old)
19. Photostat copy of National Insurance Number.
20. Original recent bank statement balance for more than 90 days and no more than 31 days before the application is submitted (£630 for my wife (if you are leaving on given visa for more than 12 months) and i kept 945 or 975 for myself altogerther £1700 plus)
21. Original and photostat copy of letter from Accountant (not required but i added showing that he is my accountant and my company tax affairs are all ok and upto date)
23. Print out of Certificate of Incorporation for my company (not required but i added)
24. Photostat copy of Family Registration Certificate of my family issued by govt showing all the names of legal heirs including my name.
25. Printout of Shorthold Tenancy/Rent Agreement (which is shared rented property with my brother and i did not have any survey report nothing)

Thanks again Marcnath and Zimba very much. God bless you both.

doodle · Post by **doodle** » Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:51 am

Hi,
Can you Please let me know how to get certified copy of urdu to english translation of Document in Pakistan ?

Mak9878 · Post by **Mak9878** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:01 pm

Hi Marcnath, Zimba, Aman90, moderators, seniors and juniors,

Hope you all are at best of your health.

I have recently applied for my ILR in the 1st week of April 2019 and attended Sopra Steria at end of same month.

Now I am gathering documents for my Wife Visa (she is currently on Tier 1 Entrepreneur Dependent route since 11 months and her visa expires in 1st week of June 2019).

In Short, I am making Tier 1 Entrepreneur Dependent extension application for her and have gathered following documents as checklist:

Dependent Personal Documents (all to be uploaded in Proof of Application Section)

1) Application Form online
2) IHS Payment £1200
3) Cover Letter from her.
4)Current Passport
5) BRP card ( expiring 1st week of June)

Maintainance Funds (to be uploaded in Finances section:

1) 90 days bank statement of mine.

Cohabition Documents (where to upload, which section):

1) NHS Registration
2) Newham Council Voting Registeration
3) Natwest Bank Statement hers personal
4) Tenancy Agreement (it just have my name on it, not my wife).
5) Revolut Bank Statement (online bank)
6) Natwest Welcome Letter
7) Payslips and employer letter

other letters.
9) Marriage Certificate

Residence in UK:

1) BRP of her

Do i need to put my all passports as well here?

Proof of identity/ Travel History:

1) Her passport with sticker visa with exit and entry dates.

Sponsors/ Employment:

1) My Current Passport
2) My current BRP
3) Cover Letter from me.

Do i need to upload business documents like accounts etc?

Do i need to include my acknowledgement, sopra Steria appointment letter in Sponsors section?

Please suggest, am i missing anything?

Thanks

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