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Post by CheGuevara » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:55 pm

doesnotcompute wrote:The Gardaí should stop wasting their time chasing down "sham marriages", and commit their resources to hunting down the criminals in the Dáil and the banker mofos who f*cked this country up!!!
Well said man - they need to sort their corruption and incompetence.

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Re: Nice man

Post by walrusgumble » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:50 am

CheGuevara wrote:
doesnotcompute wrote:The Gardaí should stop wasting their time chasing down "sham marriages", and commit their resources to hunting down the criminals in the Dáil and the banker mofos who f*cked this country up!!!
Well said man - they need to sort their corruption and incompetence.
eh, sham marriage not corruption, as well?

incompetence? maybe f the legislators provided them with extensive powers, funds and lack of judicial interference there maybe some developments. by the way, it is the DPP and not the gardaí themselves that proceed with such charges in court

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Re: Nice man

Post by fatty patty » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:03 am

walrusgumble wrote:
CheGuevara wrote:
doesnotcompute wrote:The Gardaí should stop wasting their time chasing down "sham marriages", and commit their resources to hunting down the criminals in the Dáil and the banker mofos who f*cked this country up!!!
Well said man - they need to sort their corruption and incompetence.
eh, sham marriage not corruption, as well?

incompetence? maybe f the legislators provided them with extensive powers, funds and lack of judicial interference there maybe some developments. by the way, it is the DPP and not the gardaí themselves that proceed with such charges in court
Well said. Maybe if they do their homework proper and stop treating every mick, mary, joe, muhammad and afolabi a sham marriage candidate it wont be delayed and wont be many judicial interference. By the way DPP are mere solicitors for the state acting on their behalf.....file comes from the gardai to DPP, i know you know that but just to clear the air for others.

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Re: Nice man

Post by walrusgumble » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:43 pm

fatty patty wrote:
walrusgumble wrote:
CheGuevara wrote:
doesnotcompute wrote:The Gardaí should stop wasting their time chasing down "sham marriages", and commit their resources to hunting down the criminals in the Dáil and the banker mofos who f*cked this country up!!!
Well said man - they need to sort their corruption and incompetence.
eh, sham marriage not corruption, as well?

incompetence? maybe f the legislators provided them with extensive powers, funds and lack of judicial interference there maybe some developments. by the way, it is the DPP and not the gardaí themselves that proceed with such charges in court
Well said. Maybe if they do their homework proper and stop treating every mick, mary, joe, muhammad and afolabi a sham marriage candidate it wont be delayed and wont be many judicial interference. By the way DPP are mere solicitors for the state acting on their behalf.....file comes from the gardai to DPP, i know you know that but just to clear the air for others.
Sorry, I was responding to the comment on corruption made by another. I assumed it was reference to the well known white collar/political corruption. You know the Sean Fitz of this world (gardai arrested him, yet DPP are doing nothing) I have no doubt, that the boys in blue would be only delighted to wheel people like him away to prison, after all, like us, they have money problems and mortgages etc.

DPP are mere solicitors. Yes they are, but they are agents of the court, who have legislative powers to act on behalf of the people of ireland via the state to bring cases to court. The same in America (The State Attorney) and in the UK.

As for treating every tom dick and harry...... fair enough, provided the couple have already produce solid evidence that relationship is genuine now. But the gardai can't ignore documented incidents of eu nationals reporting to them about potential problems ( i accept there are less reported cases that those allegded)

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Post by Southern_Sky » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:06 pm

Till receipts decide immigration applications
http://www.cphpost.dk/making-the-cut/ma ... ions-.html

The new control forms part of the government’s attempts at absorbing the consequences of the Metock ruling, which makes it possible to avoid Danish immigration rules after a few months’ residence in another EU country.

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Post by fatty patty » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:05 am

Southern_Sky wrote:Till receipts decide immigration applications
http://www.cphpost.dk/making-the-cut/ma ... ions-.html

The new control forms part of the government’s attempts at absorbing the consequences of the Metock ruling, which makes it possible to avoid Danish immigration rules after a few months’ residence in another EU country.
I have to laugh on this one. How hard it is to send a prepaid envelope to an associate in the country in question to keep their weekly shopping receipts and post it back in the prepaid envelope provided. Public services over there thinking they are very smart. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Obie » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:15 pm

There is only so much a state can do, before they start appearing ridiculously stupid and unreasonable. Denmark has certainly passed that threshold. Soon they will start requesting video recording of everyday spent in another memberstate or of event in the bedroom in another memberstate. Utterly ridiculous. A nation treating their own citizen with a suspicious eye, is truly sad.
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Post by fatty patty » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:42 pm

Obie wrote:video recording of everyday spent in another memberstate or of event in the bedroom in another memberstate.
Perks of the job aye :wink: ...if i would be in those departments i will be taking it on case by case basis. :P

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Post by walrusgumble » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:44 pm

Obie wrote:There is only so much a state can do, before they start appearing ridiculously stupid and unreasonable. Denmark has certainly passed that threshold. Soon they will start requesting video recording of everyday spent in another memberstate or of event in the bedroom in another memberstate. Utterly ridiculous. A nation treating their own citizen with a suspicious eye, is truly sad.
funny, how people up their own arses or self centred will then have an excuse to be that way. "but sure i have to record all of this and it is all about me"

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Post by sovtek » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:47 pm

I honestly don't care if people are engaged in sham marriages. This is an excuse to go after immigrants to direct attention away from the people who have created this economic crisis. After all the roadblocks the MoJ put in front of people getting permanent status in this country is it any wonder that there are people trying to get some permanence in their working life and enter into a marriage of convenience, so some inbred, dearly beloved knee cap cant rip them from the life they've created over many years.
The second part of this red herring on sham marriages is to create a class of workers that have no rights and can be called in when "local" workers begin to really fight back against the wealthy and political elite in this country.
It's the old "divide and conquer" strategy and wether you are an Irish worker or a migrant worker it is in your interest to stand in solidarity with your fellow workers and fight this dearly beloved nonsense. Otherwise they will kick the shit out of all of us workers.

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Post by walrusgumble » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:47 pm

sovtek wrote:I honestly don't care if people are engaged in sham marriages. This is an excuse to go after immigrants to direct attention away from the people who have created this economic crisis. After all the roadblocks the MoJ put in front of people getting permanent status in this country is it any wonder that there are people trying to get some permanence in their working life and enter into a marriage of convenience, so some inbred, dearly beloved ashtray cant rip them from the life they've created over many years.
The second part of this red herring on sham marriages is to create a class of workers that have no rights and can be called in when "local" workers begin to really fight back against the wealthy and political elite in this country.
It's the old "divide and conquer" strategy and wether you are an Irish worker or a migrant worker it is in your interest to stand in solidarity with your fellow workers and fight this dearly beloved nonsense. Otherwise they will kick the shit out of all of us workers.
Only that sham marriages will give immigrants a bad name, well done clever clogs. :wink: How convenient, no reference to women going into a marriage to any tom dick and harry due to financial/poverty reasons. Yours a real class act aye.

Unless you are amazingly self involved i think you will find a superior majority of concentration is over the people who have created this economic crisis as oppose to immigration issues, never mind sham marriages. I also think you will find department of justice has nothing to do with finance or the economy.

May I ask what road blocks are there for "permanent" residency? You mean citizenship? or the EU form? What roadblocks are there for demanding absolute documentary proofs that the couples lived in the host state for the full 5 years and worked etc?

"inbred, dearly beloved ashtray "? And your all PC clever? ha you have made comments on other websites and was knocked out of the park with that kind of lark. Inbred? that one is good :lol: l

Class power eh? really why not go on now and set up your class/workers revolution. Talk about typical commi/socialist/chip on shoulder guff. No such thing as redress to courts and access to legal advice then :roll: I don't see how marriage will stop the EU person from working


What beloved? You think the nationals will put their jobs at risk? When was the last time you worked here? (are you working?)

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Post by archigabe » Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:47 am

Did anyone catch this BBC Panorama Expose?
Inside a big fat sham wedding

My Big Fat Fake Wedding

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Post by PaperPusher » Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:57 am

I did. Interesting but hardly a topic people are not aware of, and I do wonder what will happen to the solicitor.

It is a real problem in the UK. I can imagine that the arrests and successful prosecutions will just continue. Then we can look back and see that this involves thousands of marriages. It was hundreds alone at one church, St Leonards on the Sea.

Two more vicars have recently been charged:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -scam.html

And another recent arrest, but he does not appear to have been charged:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-12730758

Cross border arrests this time:

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/ ... ticle.html

And these are investigations on a large scale, not the odd couple being picked up.




More marriage interviews in the style of the film Green Card would be a start, especially if a registrar has reported a suspicious marriage.

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