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Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Fri May 29, 2020 5:54 pm

Hello everyone.
I need help and advice, please
I was on discretionary leave since 2009.
I got my humanitarian protection permanent residence on 2018
I was married here and divorced in 2019
I'm married in my country since 2014 and have a child
I want my wife and son to come and live with me here.
Before my divorce here I was married in my country.

1- is my marriage recognised here, or I need a marriage certificate after my divorce.

2- My wife and son need to come on spouse and dependant visa route or on family reunion route.

Any advice, please
Thank you

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by seagul » Fri May 29, 2020 7:56 pm

pisou wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 5:54 pm
Hello everyone.
I need help and advice, please
I was on discretionary leave since 2009.
I got my humanitarian protection permanent residence on 2018
I was married here and divorced in 2019
I'm married in my country since 2014 and have a child
I want my wife and son to come and live with me here.
Before my divorce here I was married in my country.

1- is my marriage recognised here, or I need a marriage certificate after my divorce.

2- My wife and son need to come on spouse and dependant visa route or on family reunion route.

Any advice, please
Thank you
More likely you shouldn't have disclosed your previous marriage (2014) in 2019. In that case even your existing visa might be jeopardized in future under deception case covenant.
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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Fri May 29, 2020 8:25 pm

:?

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by seagul » Fri May 29, 2020 8:30 pm

pisou wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:25 pm
What if I divorced now in my country and remarried and had a new marriage
certificate without declaring that I got married in 2014.
Still it would be counted as deception whenever will come to surface which usually is the case one day.
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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Fri May 29, 2020 9:52 pm

seagul wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:30 pm
pisou wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:25 pm
What if I divorced now in my country and remarried and had a new marriage
certificate without declaring that I got married in 2014.
Still it would be counted as deception whenever will come to surface which usually is the case one day.
So how they can come and live with me here?

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by seagul » Fri May 29, 2020 10:13 pm

pisou wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 9:52 pm
So how they can come and live with me here?
Maybe after your settlement if you follow your previous plan which later you deleted but only until it remain a secret.
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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Fri May 29, 2020 11:36 pm

seagul wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 10:13 pm
pisou wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 9:52 pm
So how they can come and live with me here?
Maybe after your settlement if you follow your previous plan which later you deleted but only until it remain a secret.

Now I hold HP Settlement.
So they need a spouse visa to come or Family Reunion route.

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by CR001 » Sat May 30, 2020 8:41 am

For s spouse visa, you are required to submit evidence that you were free to marry, ie a divorce decree absolute. Suddenly divorcing you overseas spouse and then remarrying them again will most certainly raise red flags for HO. Plus add to that the date of birth of your children will be a give away that you were married to someone else in the UK and in home country.

When (date) did you marry you ex wife in the UK?
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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Sat May 30, 2020 12:22 pm

CR001 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 8:41 am
For s spouse visa, you are required to submit evidence that you were free to marry, ie a divorce decree absolute. Suddenly divorcing you overseas spouse and then remarrying them again will most certainly raise red flags for HO. Plus add to that the date of birth of your children will be a give away that you were married to someone else in the UK and in home country.

When (date) did you marry you ex wife in the UK?
I was married here in the UK since 2003
then divorced in 2019.

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by seagul » Sat May 30, 2020 2:26 pm

pisou wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:22 pm

I was married here in the UK since 2003
then divorced in 2019.
Now very important piece of information you provided as in bold below.
You married in UK in 2003 and then obtained dictionary leave in 2009 followed by remarrying without divorce in your home country in 2014 and then divorced the UK marriage in 2019. In that case it wasn't a deception rather simply your overseas marriage won't be recognized. Just bring your overseas partner on fiancee visa and marry in UK.
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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by pisou » Sat May 30, 2020 8:09 pm

seagul wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 2:26 pm
pisou wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 12:22 pm

I was married here in the UK since 2003
then divorced in 2019.
Now very important piece of information you provided as in bold below.
You married in UK in 2003 and then obtained dictionary leave in 2009 followed by remarrying without divorce in your home country in 2014 and then divorced the UK marriage in 2019. In that case it wasn't a deception rather simply your overseas marriage won't be recognized. Just bring your overseas partner on fiancee visa and marry in UK.

Ok, What about my son, he born in 2016!
Can he come with my wife on a fiancée visa as well?
and what about family reunion if I have HP settlement?
can I use this route?

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Re: Spouse visa or family reunion route?

Post by CR001 » Sat May 30, 2020 8:14 pm

Likely tough to do the family reunion as you would have to declare you were a family unit before you came to the UK and claimed asylum, which will obviously make you marriage known to HO.

https://www.gov.uk/settlement-refugee-o ... ly-reunion
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