How can my partner stay in the UK

[omac007]

I am a UK citizen and have lived with my Chinese partner for 3 years. We had a baby last week. However my partners VISA expires at the end of october 07. We are in the process of applying for a new visa however i am struggling to prove that i can support her, and the cost of the visa is so expensive. Will the fact that we have a child help our application or is our family going to be separated? These are worrying times!

[yankeegirl]

What type of visa does your partner currently have?

[omac007]

She has a student visa

[VictoriaS]

The unmarried partnher visa is the best option, but you need to prove that you can support her and that you have been living together for two years.

Victoria

[sakura]

I am a UK citizen and have lived with my Chinese partner for 3 years. We had a baby last week. However my partners VISA expires at the end of october 07. We are in the process of applying for a new visa however i am struggling to prove that i can support her, and the cost of the visa is so expensive. Will the fact that we have a child help our application or is our family going to be separated? These are worrying times!

Why can't you support her? If you have a job, put down your incomings/outgoings, and any savings. Is she still studying? How does/did she support herself?

[omac007]

I cannot proved that i can support her as the payslips from my job are printed off on my bosses computer. I have just graduated and i dont earn enough at the moment. The lawyer who is helping us with the unmarried visa application says i need to get a better job offer, and my payslips cant prove what i earn.She is not studying anymore, but supported herself via working part time. We can prove we have lived together for 3 years. I am considering informing the local media and my local mp, to see if they are able to help with our situation.

[Wanderer]

I cannot proved that i can support her as the payslips from my job are printed off on my bosses computer. I have just graduated and i dont earn enough at the moment. The lawyer who is helping us with the unmarried visa application says i need to get a better job offer, and my payslips cant prove what i earn.She is not studying anymore, but supported herself via working part time. We can prove we have lived together for 3 years. I am considering informing the local media and my local mp, to see if they are able to help with our situation.

Well if you can't support, you can't support her. Sometimes you have to just wait. Why not get yourself in a better position and try again? There's too much of this 'I want it now' attitude these days.

As the mighty Rolling Stones once sang 'You can't always get what you want' - if it's worth it - wait.

And if she's still here on a student visa and not studying she's in breach. An overstayer potentially, which is just what the press like to jump on.

[SYH]

I cannot proved that i can support her as the payslips from my job are printed off on my bosses computer. I have just graduated and i dont earn enough at the moment. The lawyer who is helping us with the unmarried visa application says i need to get a better job offer, and my payslips cant prove what i earn.She is not studying anymore, but supported herself via working part time. We can prove we have lived together for 3 years. I am considering informing the local media and my local mp, to see if they are able to help with our situation.

Just because the payslips are from the computer doens't make it worthless, you have bank statements, a contract don't you?
but getting back to wanderer's comment while I think a baby makes it more imperative for her to get a visa, here we go again with why are you getting pregnant if you can't even afford the visa? I just find the whole immediate gratification approach just self destructive.

[JAJ]

I am a UK citizen and have lived with my Chinese partner for 3 years. We had a baby last week. However my partners VISA expires at the end of october 07. We are in the process of applying for a new visa however i am struggling to prove that i can support her, and the cost of the visa is so expensive. Will the fact that we have a child help our application or is our family going to be separated? These are worrying times!

Make sure your child is issued with a British passport. Under the rules since July 2006, the fact you're not married is irrelevant provided you are shown as the "father" on the birth certificate.

[jimquk]

here we go again with why are you getting pregnant if you can't even afford the visa?

Well, here we go again with the judgmental attitudes. People are naive about "firm but fair" immigration control, people make mistakes, they're only human after all.

Anyway, it sounds like the best way forward would be for you to get another job - perhaps a part-time job in addition to your curent one? - or for your partner to return to China until you're in a position to bring her over on a fiance visa.

Good luck, with perserverance and determination, you can make this work, even if it needs a temporary separation, if you both want it enough.

[Wanderer]

here we go again with why are you getting pregnant if you can't even afford the visa?

Well, here we go again with the judgmental attitudes. People are naive about "firm but fair" immigration control, people make mistakes, they're only human after all.

Anyway, it sounds like the best way forward would be for you to get another job - perhaps a part-time job in addition to your curent one? - or for your partner to return to China until you're in a position to bring her over on a fiance visa.

Good luck, with perserverance and determination, you can make this work, even if it needs a temporary separation, if you both want it enough.

I'm with SYN on this one, these days u dont have kids by mistake unless ur stupid.

Having a sprog isn't a way forward visa-wise...

[omac007]

My child was not concieved for visa reasons and it does not mean you are stupid if you have a child by mistake. I will hopefully be able to prove i can support my family by the end of this month. I can afford the visa and if it means my partner returning to her home country for a short while then so be it. I have been informed of a human rights law which states a family should not be seperated is this true?

[Wanderer]

My child was not concieved for visa reasons and it does not mean you are stupid if you have a child by mistake. I will hopefully be able to prove i can support my family by the end of this month. I can afford the visa and if it means my partner returning to her home country for a short while then so be it. I have been informed of a human rights law which states a family should not be seperated is this true?

It is true about not human rights and not being separated but our UK gov will say yes, go to China.

I am sorry if I've offended but that is the way the HO will view ur case. No Human Rights have been breached. Quid Pro Quo.

And again I'm sory but yes you are stupid if u have a child by mistake haven't you heard of contraception or waiting until you can afford a child?

They don't come free you know.

[avjones]

They arrive free, it's after that it gets pricey!

(Speaking as the mother of a 2 year old).

[SYH]

They arrive free, it's after that it gets pricey!

(Speaking as the mother of a 2 year old).

Thats not true, I hope you had a nice dinner and some wine that evening to butter you up.

[avjones]

I'm a cheap date.

[jes2jes]

And again I'm sory but yes you are stupid if u have a child by mistake haven't you heard of contraception or waiting until you can afford a child?

This is not a fair statement and I will advise you not to progress with it.
The best of all contraceptions do have a failure rate and will cause pregnancy to occur when this happpens.

Getting pregnant by mistake does not in no wise mean you are stupid but really is what a mistake is and should remain so.

Others also plan for it and somewhere along the line circumstances change (like unemployment, sickness, accidents, lost of earnings etc which might cause an individuals earning power to diminish) which would lead to untold hardships.

To those who maintain this stance, I will only say, KEEP LIVING and life can throw you a 'curve ball' when you least expect it.

Have a nice day.

[SYH]

And again I'm sory but yes you are stupid if u have a child by mistake haven't you heard of contraception or waiting until you can afford a child?

This is not a fair statement and I will advise you not to progress with it.
The best of all contraceptions do have a failure rate and will cause pregnancy to occur when this happpens.

Getting pregnant by mistake does not in no wise mean you are stupid but really is what a mistake is and should remain so.

Others also plan for it and somewhere along the line circumstances change (like unemployment, sickness, accidents, lost of earnings etc which might cause an individuals earning power to diminish) which would lead to untold hardships.

To those who maintain this stance, I will only say, KEEP LIVING and life can throw you a 'curve ball' when you least expect it.

Have a nice day.

Jes the success rate of contraception has nothing to do with the issue.
As they did not say the were using it.
The issue is she is a student, so she clearly isn't supporting herself or working fulltime so if aren't fully supporting yourself, you really shouldn't be having a baby on top of that situation.
Then I find it a bit annoying to hear this guy who makes out his situation to be practically skid row, to complain about the cost of the visa fees but again doesn't think far enough ahead to realize the cost of a baby makes the visa fee a drop in the bucket.
No one is denying their right to have a baby. Just their thinking process or lack of one before getting into the situation.