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Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settled pa

Post by Cakebiscuit » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:46 pm

Am enquiring on behalf of a friend. She and the husband are settled in the uk but they have not applied for British passport yet. They recently had a baby abroad in usa and came back with the baby with usa passport. Baby was stamped 2 months on her passport with NRTPF and was advised by the port of entry officer to sort the child's status or else if parents travel out of uk with the child they won't be allowed back in. The question is what application should they apply for the child so she can have a status.also child has been stamped in to stay for only 2 months. Pls advice on the application they can put in for the child before the lapse of tge the 2 months. Thank u.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:52 pm

They should have applied for a child settlement visa before coming to the UK.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:57 pm

Thanks for your reply. Wat can they apply for in the country since the port of entry officer has stamped their baby in for 2 months and advised them to sort it out within 2 months. Way application should they put in in the uk for d baby. Thanks.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:29 pm

Child settlement visa. Apply to remain in the UK with family (click). The visa fee is £649 if they apply by post or £1049 if they apply in person for a same day decision. £500 immigration health surcharge is payable but might be refunded if child is granted ILE. There is a financial requirement that is likely to be met.

Hopefully they are successful as the baby appears to have been admitted to the UK as a visitor and switching into any other visa category is not permitted as a visitor.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by vinny » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:30 pm

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by CR001 » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:33 pm

vinny wrote:SET(F), under A280(b), 298-299.
Thanks vinny. I didn't realise this was possible if the child was born abroad and admitted to the UK as a visitor.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by vinny » Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:38 pm

298 doesn't exclude visitor, although they probably want the parents to explain a change of circumstances, etc. However, together with the immigration officer's advice to sort out the child's status, it should be possible. Moreover, it's in the child's best interests.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:58 pm

Thanks for all your reply. SET F form shows that parents have to include bank statement for d application. Is there any minimum amount that should be in the bank accountand how many months bank statement should be included in the application. Thank you all.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by vinny » Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:08 am

298 wrote:(v) can, and will, be maintained adequately by the parent, parents or relative the child was admitted to join, without recourse to public funds;
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:17 pm

Thanks for your reply. So there is no set amount that shd be in the bank acct then. May be like 500pounds minimum should do. What do u think

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Tue Jan 12, 2016 9:06 pm

Hello house, a lawyer advised the parents of child to put in their application for naturalisation since they hv had ILR for over 1year and at d same time put in an application for the child to register as British. Does this sound right and is it doable. Thanks.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by vinny » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:49 pm

It's risky.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:46 pm

Thanks for ur reply vinny. Reading other posts shows that it is risky. For the set F form how should these questions be answered under section 3 as parents have 2 other chikdren that are British. See questions below3.6 Will your sponsor be supporting you
from his/her own money?
Yes No If so, what percentage
of your total weekly or
monthly finances will be
provided by your sponsor?
%
3.7 Did your sponsor provide financial
support to you while you were living
in your home country? please provide
documentary evidence of any financial
support you received from your sponsor
while you were living in your home
country?
Yes No If so, for
how long?. Also based on the fact that child has 2 older siblings that are British and child is only 4 weeks old. Can parents apply to register baby as British on this basis. Remember both parents have ILR.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:21 pm

Hi everyone, the family informed me that the child has been issued ILR after the set f application (premium service) thank you all for the advice especially vinny. The question the family has now is when can they apply for the child to be registered as British and what application will they put in for the child. Remember both parent have ILR and not british.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by noajthan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:29 pm

Cakebiscuit wrote:Hi everyone, the family informed me that the child has been issued ILR after the set f application (premium service) thank you all for the advice especially vinny. The question the family has now is when can they apply for the child to be registered as British and what application will they put in for the child. Remember both parent have ILR and not british.
Register minor under Section 3(1) of BNA at discretion of Home Secretary at same time as, (or just after), parent is applying for privilege of citizenship.

Use form MN1 for minor.

Use form AN for adult;
- assuming all adult requirements (proof physically present in UK 5 years previously, absences within limits, references, of good character, of sound mind & etc) have been/can be met.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Thu Feb 04, 2016 6:39 pm

Thanks for ur reply. If parent are not ready to apply for British citizenship yet, what application can be put in for the child alone to become british and when can the application be put in. Thank u.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by noajthan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:05 pm

Cakebiscuit wrote:Thanks for ur reply. If parent are not ready to apply for British citizenship yet, what application can be put in for the child alone to become british and when can the application be put in. Thank u.
The minor needs to apply under s.3(1) & it is expected at least one parent is naturalising too.

You can read chapter & verse in the relevant HO guidance:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 150402.pdf
- see para. 9.17.9
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by secret.simon » Thu Feb 04, 2016 7:08 pm

Cakebiscuit wrote:Thanks for ur reply. If parent are not ready to apply for British citizenship yet, what application can be put in for the child alone to become british and when can the application be put in. Thank u.
That is tricky. With children born outside the UK, the Home Office expects either
  • both parents to be British citizens
    OR
    One parent to be a British citizen and the other one to be applying for British citizenship
Children born outside the UK typically have the status of the less-privileged parent. As both the parents are at ILR, the child would be expected to have the same status.

I presume that the two older siblings were born in the UK, which makes all the difference from a legal point of view.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by Cakebiscuit » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:17 pm

That's interesting. So the child cannot become british until the parent (s) naturalise.

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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by CR001 » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:22 pm

Cakebiscuit wrote:That's interesting. So the child cannot become british until the parent (s) naturalise.
Correct yes.
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Re: Application to put in for child born abroad to uk settle

Post by noajthan » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:46 pm

CR001 wrote:
Cakebiscuit wrote:That's interesting. So the child cannot become british until the parent (s) naturalise.
Correct yes.
Food for thought isn't it.

The rationale is along the lines of future intentions & indications that junior's future clearly lies in UK.

It muddies the waters if parents are merely settled & may flit off to some other part of the globe; ILR can also expire (or be revoked).
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