MN1 registration & alternatives way before citizenship

[INFOSRI]

Hi All,
Need some urgent information.
I got some problem, that we need to travel India, but since my daughter born in UK and her visa tier1 dependent got expired last year. Hence we applied MN1 registration during 2nd Feb, so far no response after submission of BRP details. We just awaited for some response and also need some information from you guys, if all goes well what we should be doing immediately and also any quickest way to travel India and return back to UK by mid of may.

Thanks everyone,
Sri

[O_Relly]

It appears only option is to wait for,
* The citizenship certificate to come through
* Obtain British passport
* Travel to India with Indian passport
* Return to UK within 3 months and renounce Indian citizenship & surrender Indian passport
* Apply OCI card

You maybe able to exit the UK now with Indian passport, but re-entry will be a problem with an expired visa. Not sure if she will be allowed in if she hand carries her citizenship certificate (if it is available to you by the time you return from India)

[CR001]

You maybe able to exit the UK now with Indian passport, but re-entry will be a problem with an expired visa. Not sure if she will be allowed in if she hand carries her citizenship certificate (if it is available to you by the time you return from India)

The airline likely won't allow the child to fly/board the plane without a valid visa. Registration certificate is just a piece of paper.

[O_Relly]

You maybe able to exit the UK now with Indian passport, but re-entry will be a problem with an expired visa. Not sure if she will be allowed in if she hand carries her citizenship certificate (if it is available to you by the time you return from India)

The airline likely won't allow the child to fly/board the plane without a valid visa. Registration certificate is just a piece of paper.

Yes thats true though. This may have been different if OP had an American or such passport with a visa waiver program as entry in foreign nation wouldnt be restricted and perhaps entry into UK would be possible with a citizenship certificate ?

I know of someone who did this successfully with her American passport even after many years of obtaining citizenship and she didnt care to apply for a British passport because at the time the waiting period was too long and she was a frequent traveller(She didnt want to part with her US passport for that long). However in her case she had a ILR visa (vignette or BRP am not sure).

Perhaps that is why UKBA are imposing for BRPs to be returned within 5 days of obtaining citizenship to avoid such circumventing of the system.

Anyway clearly OP is Indian passport holder, so may not be an option.

[Obie]

. Registration certificate is just a piece of paper.

The registration certificate is not a piece of paper , it is a document granting citizenship and a very important document.

However it is not a travel document , and for international travels cannot be used as evidence of visa or exemption from visa.

Just like a person overseas who was British at birth cannot to the Stupid with his birth certificate and evidence that his mother or father was British or settled at time of his birth and therefore a citizen. That will not be accepted.

This is the reason why we have the Certificate of an Entitlement to Right of Abode, which is affixed in a person's passport.

[CR001]

. Registration certificate is just a piece of paper.

The registration certificate is not a piece of paper , it is a document granting citizenship and a very important document.

Yes, I know this Obie, having gone through the processes myself. To the Stupid, it will be a piece of paper and 'could' have been printed anywhere.

[O_Relly]

. Registration certificate is just a piece of paper.

The registration certificate is not a piece of paper , it is a document granting citizenship and a very important document.

However it is not a travel document , and for international travels cannot be used as evidence of visa or exemption from visa.

Just like a person overseas who was British at birth cannot to the Stupid with his birth certificate and evidence that his mother or father was British or settled at time of his birth and therefore a citizen. That will not be accepted.

This is the reason why we have the Certificate of an Entitlement to Right of Abode, which is affixed in a person's passport.

Makes sense Obie, thanks for clarifying.

However, what would happen in the case I quoted earlier ? American (actually come to think of it wouldn't matter so she could be Indian or other) passport holder with valid ILR visa vignette (or BRP). Has acquired British citizenship for many years, but never applied for a British passport.

Now in this case, no problems with the airline as she has a (in their eyes) valid ILR, she gets on the plane and arrives in the UK.

IO can see her ILR is no longer valid since she is now a British citizen, and she does have a citizenship certificate in hand to prove it.

They still will have to let her in. They cannot deny entry just because her ILR is no longer valid ? Is this correct?

By law, does it not state that the UK cannot deny entry to it's citizen under any circumstances ?