ILR Application

[Avakaur]

Hi
Iam new on this immigration board.. i need advice on ILR.. i will complete my 5 year on tier 2 general in 5th march 2019 but my salry is 30 k it will increase in next month suppose 5 th feb .. am I eligible to apply in march 7th

[Avakaur]

Hi i am complteting my 5 years on 5 th march 2019..
Is it enough to submit one month payslip nd bank statement? My salary is 30 k at the moment it will increase within2 weeks?
Is it going to be ok?

[CR001]

A large sudden increase shortly before applying for ILR will be an instant red flag to HO. A £5,500 increase is unusual and exceptional and could trigger an investigation into your job and sponsor.

What is your SOC??

[Avakaur]

Its production manager I don’t remember the soc code? So how long i should wait for apply ? Because i still have 1 years visa left?

[Avakaur]

But if they asking only for one month statement and one month payslips, it wouldn’t show to them its sudden increase?

[CR001]

Such a large increase (and any increase you received before outside of annual company wide increases), have to be reported on the SMS.

HO also check your HMRC income and tax records, so they will know you got a very large increase shortly before applying for ILR. They have been hot on this particular issue for a couple of years now and some companies have lost their sponsor licenses and ILR applicants been refused where 'deception' and 'non genuine' vacancy is found.

You are brave if you believe you can try to hide things from HO and they won't find out. They know a lot more about you than you probably think.

[CR001]

Can you please also refrain from tagging your question onto every other topic you find!! Keep your questions in your own topic, THIS ONE.

[CR001]

See Appendix J below, you already appear to be paid less than all three 'production manager' SOCs.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration ... illed-work

1121 Production managers and directors in manufacturing
Example job tasks
• liaises with other managers to plan overall production activity and daily manufacturing activity, sets quality standards and estimates timescales and costs;
• manages production to ensure that orders are completed to an agreed date and conform to customer and other requirements;
• monitors production and production costs and undertakes or arranges for the preparation of reports and records;
• oversees supervision of the production line and its staff, ensures targets are met.

Related job titles:
• Engineering manager
• Managing director (engineering)
• Operations manager (manufacturing)
• Production manager

Salary rates:
New entrant: £21,700
Experienced worker: £31,900

[Source: Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2016] RQF 6

1122 Production managers and directors in construction
Example job tasks
• liaises with other managers to plan overall production activity and construction activities, sets quality standards and estimates timescales and costs;
• receives invitations to tender, arranges for estimates and liaises with client, architect and engineers for the preparation of contracts;
• plans, directs and co-ordinates the construction and maintenance of civil and structural engineering works, including demolition, open-cast mining works and pipeline and piling;
• receives reports upon work in progress to ensure that materials and construction methods meet with specifications and statutory requirements and that there are no deviations from agreed plans.

Related job titles:
• Building Services manager
• Construction manager
• Director (building construction)
• Owner (electrical contracting)

Salary rates:
New entrant: £25,000
Experienced worker: £33,200

[Source: Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2016] RQF 6

1123 Production managers and directors in mining and energy
Example job tasks
• co-ordinates the activities of mines, quarries, drilling operations and offshore installations;
• determines staffing, material and other needs;
• co-ordinates and supervises coal-face production activities and ensures compliance with health and safety regulations;
• ensures that all haulage, storage, purification and distribution work is performed efficiently and in compliance with statutory and other regulations;
• arranges for the provision of gas, water and electricity supplies;
• ensures compliance with issues relating to the environmental impact of operations. Related job titles:
• Operations manager (mining, water & energy)
• Quarry manager

Salary rates:
New entrant: £20,000

[Source: Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2014 (no equivalent 2015 or 2016 data available)]

Experienced worker: £32,000

[Source: Annual Survey of Hours and Earnings 2016]

[Avakaur]

Ok thanx for ur help ..
But in actually my company does increment in new year .. this is not like fake salary i am on this position since 8 years.. what u think how long I should wait for apply for ilr after increasing my salary?
I appreciate ur help..

[CR001]

Even if you wait 6 months, the fact that you will need a £5,500-£6000 increase will still be a red flag to HO. Presumably not every employee is getting such a large increase. Likely only you as you need it for ILR.

[Avakaur]

They might changed these salaries but wen i applied for this code it was 20,800 and then 30 something..

[Avakaur]

In short, what is the solution now if i am not eligible to apply after 6 months?

[gbptier1general]

Hi i am complteting my 5 years on 5 th march 2019..
Is it enough to submit one month payslip nd bank statement? My salary is 30 k at the moment it will increase within2 weeks?
Is it going to be ok?

If u r confident with ur own earnings just 1Day before date of application that u earned 1Million&Prove with Legal Evidences,you will win either HO refuses/Accepts as it is lawful w.r.t Immigration rules.ThatSimple.

[gbptier1general]

Such a large increase (and any increase you received before outside of annual company wide increases), have to be reported on the SMS.

HO also check your HMRC income and tax records, so they will know you got a very large increase shortly before applying for ILR. They have been hot on this particular issue for a couple of years now and some companies have lost their sponsor licenses and ILR applicants been refused where 'deception' and 'non genuine' vacancy is found.

You are brave if you believe you can try to hide things from HO and they won't find out. They know a lot more about you than you probably think.

Can u pls elaborate on deception&NON-Genuine?
Below is my Prob,pls address with mitigating points pls!!!Thanks

[bizman]

What CR001 is saying is simple, if you apply with such sudden increase it will raise a suspicion immediately and further checks that might not be necessary for simple application will be carried out. Have in mind that HO have access to all your history in UK, you can’t possibly hide anything.

[Avakaur]

Hi i was just asking that is it possible or not?
I am not debating on any topic plz z I already meet 2 immigration lawyer and they saying if ur salary increase now and after one month u r eligible to apply so I really don’t understand what is wrong and what is right..

Could u give me best advice plz that how long I should wait after getting my increments?

I will appreciate ur any reply
/advice...

[gbptier1general]

Hi i was just asking that is it possible or not?
I am not debating on any topic plz z I already meet 2 immigration lawyer and they saying if ur salary increase now and after one month u r eligible to apply so I really don’t understand what is wrong and what is right..

Could u give me best advice plz that how long I should wait after getting my increments?

I will appreciate ur any reply
/advice...

First thing first,it is your ur life in lawful means that ur paying taxes with no probs with clear,clean&Good history of ur Records from HMRC for all the period ur claiming for ILR[Remember ILR is NOT end of Journey,u still hav in future UK-Citizenship whr Good-Character matters than salary things],Feedbacks/ Proof from HMRC&Other legal bodies will be shared to HO during ur process of application.Thy r stronger than sniffing dogs to retrieve the entire history,what the advise is hav all the HMRC letters stored for all ur ur tax history for all the yrs u stayed & get this Tax history genuine&clear from HMRC or FCA regulated Accountant if u have history of tax amendments/salary going sudden Peaks&Drops.This accelerates the decision with strong covering letter.
You also need to have good rapo with with HMRC as thy play vital role w.r.t God/Bad character.
If u can wait & ur visa is NOT expiring even if u further wait for 2/4 months ,then better wait as per senior members suggested.
If if there is Hike ur employer gives u Hike letter,that wil act ur additional Supporting Doc[BankStat+PaySlips ( is temporary)on long run HO wil giv decision basing on HMRC records(NOTE:-Not completely relaying on Payslips)
Your preparation for ur application destines if u wanted to hav decision from HO faster or get it delayed with long tussel&finally landup in AR/JR&then win.Your own homework matters than what HO rules are.

NOTE1:- DO not be in rush as long as ur visa is NOT expiring.[Whn is ur visa expiring?]
NOTE2.1:- Remember the 1st time ur current visa Application made w.r.t those rules decide with a competent solictor tht how Much Min salary u need w.r.t HO Immigration rules.Once u decided,u follow the below[No guess works]
NOTE2.2:-(If you will need a £5,500-£6000 )Hav a revised Offer letter due-to Inflasion+Cost of living in London+Skills upgrade points from ur Employer&Decide to have a revised Offer than Hike Letter&rest is all set smooth sail as long as u finish the tasks in ur project(s).From that MONTH, if u hav 4-6Motnhs gap for ur Visa-Expiry,thn it is fine.
A)If going on same day Application:-Then go as above[HikeLetter/Revised OfferLetter+PaySlip(follow up with HMRC during next month of credit if this Hikedsalary was recorded,thn u wil get spot decision)BankStatement is obligatory tht u received for ur personalBankAccount.
B)If submitting Docs via postal,thn try get HMRC Yrly summary of Employers history to ur address which thy deliver to u.If u add this doc during course of time thn helps in faster process.
Pls consult well experienced solicitors well aware of Tax complexions w.r.t Immigration standards after ur own Homework done & NOT lazy/Incompetent/Impotent which u get in plenty.

[gbptier1general]

Its production manager I don’t remember the soc code? So how long i should wait for apply ? Because i still have 1 years visa left?

Assuming your Visa Expiring around 15April2020,it is safer atleast u cross 6-8Months after credit of Revised Offer [than HikeLetter as Hike is NOT tht stronger proof,bit slippery unless u hav separate HR-Letter with split of All-Hike].Try hav this Revised Offer Letter dated before,march-19 ,i.e., 12/11/10-Months before Visa ExpiryDate.
You did not Quote ur MinThresholdSalary w. r t ur ImmigrationRules,Decide this with Immigration Strong Solicitor.Caliculate the earliest months u can cross the Min band-Salary.
6-7 Months from Hike/Revised date would be preferable,assuming u r planning to claim ur earning from the latest 6-7Months or 12Months.Ur solicitor needs also help u on this.
OR pls provide what ur MinThreshold&Requirements w.r.t Tier-2 Immigration Earnings rules for ur time.Someone can advise u here.NOT tht obselete group.
Provide UR HR-Manager&ReportingManager's contacts in coveringLetter.
Follow previous reply & all is set for u.Any further clarifications,u might need u r welcome to seek.

[CR001]

Its production manager I don’t remember the soc code? So how long i should wait for apply ? Because i still have 1 years visa left?

Assuming your Visa Expiring around 15April2020,it is safer atleast u cross 6-8Months after credit of Revised Offer [than HikeLetter as Hike is NOT tht stronger proof,bit slippery unless u hav separate HR-Letter with split of All-Hike].Try hav this Revised Offer Letter dated before,march-19 ,i.e., 12/11/10-Months before Visa ExpiryDate.
You did not Quote ur MinThresholdSalary w. r t ur ImmigrationRules,Decide this with Immigration Strong Solicitor.Caliculate the earliest months u can cross the Min band-Salary.
6-7 Months from Hike/Revised date would be preferable,assuming u r planning to claim ur earning from the latest 6-7Months or 12Months.Ur solicitor needs also help u on this.
OR pls provide what ur MinThreshold&Requirements w.r.t Tier-2 Immigration Earnings rules for ur time.Someone can advise u here.NOT tht obselete group.
Provide UR HR-Manager&ReportingManager's contacts in coveringLetter.
Follow previous reply & all is set for u.Any further clarifications,u might need u r welcome to seek.

Please, review your posts before submitting and please don't post in 'text speech'. Your posts are incredibly difficult (almost impossible) to read and understand due to no spacing between words or abbreviations or decent spacing between paragraphs. What a mess to understand.

[CR001]

First thing first,it is your ur life in lawful means that ur paying taxes with no probs with clear,clean&Good history of ur Records from HMRC for all the period ur claiming for ILR[Remember ILR is NOT end of Journey,u still hav in future UK-Citizenship whr Good-Character matters than salary things],Feedbacks/ Proof from HMRC&Other legal bodies will be shared to HO during ur process of application.Thy r stronger than sniffing dogs to retrieve the entire history,what the advise is hav all the HMRC letters stored for all ur ur tax history for all the yrs u stayed & get this Tax history genuine&clear from HMRC or FCA regulated Accountant if u have history of tax amendments/salary going sudden Peaks&Drops.This accelerates the decision with strong covering letter.
You also need to have good rapo with with HMRC as thy play vital role w.r.t God/Bad character.
If u can wait & ur visa is NOT expiring even if u further wait for 2/4 months ,then better wait as per senior members suggested.
If if there is Hike ur employer gives u Hike letter,that wil act ur additional Supporting Doc[BankStat+PaySlips ( is temporary)on long run HO wil giv decision basing on HMRC records(NOTE:-Not completely relaying on Payslips)
Your preparation for ur application destines if u wanted to hav decision from HO faster or get it delayed with long tussel&finally landup in AR/JR&then win.Your own homework matters than what HO rules are.

Pls consult well experienced solicitors well aware of Tax complexions w.r.t Immigration standards after ur own Homework done & NOT lazy/Incompetent/Impotent which u get in plenty.

As the user is a Tier 2 General migrant and NOT a Tier 1 General migrant, there are no 'tax issues' or 'tax amendment' or 'get an account' issues. Tier 2 General is ONLY permitted to be on PAYE employment with their sponsor. Please do not post unnecessary information that will create stress and anxiety for members.

[gbptier1general]

What CR001 is saying is simple, if you apply with such sudden increase it will raise a suspicion immediately and further checks that might not be necessary for simple application will be carried out. Have in mind that HO have access to all your history in UK, you can’t possibly hide anything.

Hi Thanks.
Non-Genuine I got the context.Can you elaborate on how it could be Deception?.......in this case pls?

[bizman]

I’m not saying it’s deception, I’m just saying that all agencies that deals with UK internal issues are under HO, like HMRC, police etc, 5hey have records and you need to be careful with information. Just wait a bit and then apply

[CR001]

I’m not saying it’s deception, I’m just saying that all agencies that deals with UK internal issues are under HO, like HMRC, police etc, 5hey have records and you need to be careful with information. Just wait a bit and then apply

I am not sure who you are responding to, but user 'gptier1general' is NOT the original poster in this topic and is merely tagging on attempting to get attention and responses to their own ILR refusal. The user 'gbtier1general' is an ILR refused on Tier 1 General due to tax/income discrepancies and not Tier 2 General as the OP in this topic.

[bizman]

Oh ok, don’t know

[gbptier1general]

Oh ok, don’t know

Hi Bizman,
With all due respect, one my own family members r under Tier-2 visa,so with that in place, I have asked.
Really thankful for your Timely&Kindly reply.
Not sure why CR001 is always projecting all my points in Negative(-ive) tone, w.r.t Deception point is NOT valid point,it was supposed to get corrected?
Let her/all explain what is the relevance in this user Scenario?
It has NO relevance&thus misleading to me&Others,pls correct her[CR001] Answer Ref:- CR001 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:56 pm "" ILR applicants been refused where 'deception' and 'non genuine' vacancy is found.""
If u think Deception was valid ,pls elaborate on that point wtih 1 or 2 examples Pls.
Else ignore to answer/reply.
Thanks a lot All.