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HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:30 pm

Hi guys -

In the process of applying for a Fiance visa (as my fiancee's sponsor) and have a question on the financial requirement evidence.

So HSBC are refusing to stamp my bank statements for authenticity claiming that it goes against their policy.

What they have provided me with is a cover letter with a wet signature stating the date I opened my account, my balance for the previous business day, my lowest balance for 28 days and my accompanying personal details. With this they have also printed on their own letterhead my transaction history for the last 6 months (which includes my name, sort code and account number on them). My concern is that the letter they have provided doesn't mention the statements nor its authenticity.

If I submit this along with my printed online statements, do you think this will be enough?

If no, any suggestion on how to get HSBC to stamp my online statements, or any other suggestions with dealing with HSBC would be appreciated.

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Re: HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by ariamus » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:37 pm

Call HSBC and order paper statements for the last 6 months, to be delivered to your home address, they should arrive in 7-10 days.

As their letter doesn’t refer to the printed 6 months statement that might be an issue. Maybe other members who bank with HSBC can comment from their experience.

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Re: HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by ILR1980 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:41 pm

HSBC is worse bank and have same experience with them . They refused to stamp on bank statement printed in branch . I managed to got letter from them stating the authenticity of statement ..statement should have your address as well ..if not then their letter should mention your address and account number and authenticity of statement ..If they are not giving you this then ask them to give you letter on official headed paper stating their policy of not stamping on bank statements...try to contact senior personnel in bank i.e bank manager or try to contact their complain department

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Re: HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by seagul » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:00 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:30 pm

What they have provided me with is a cover letter with a wet signature stating the date I opened my account, my balance for the previous business day, my lowest balance for 28 days and my accompanying personal details. With this they have also printed on their own letterhead my transaction history for the last 6 months (which includes my name, sort code and account number on them).
100% will work.
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Re: HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:25 pm

Seagul,

Thank you for your vote in confidence.

My only concern is that it is more of a transaction history rather than an actual bank statement (like the ones I can download online). Do you think they would have an issue with that?

Also, will they be able to tell that they're official statements from HSBC without an authenticity letter?

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Re: HSBC bank statement authenticity issues - Fiance visa

Post by seagul » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:39 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:25 pm
Seagul,

Thank you for your vote in confidence.

My only concern is that it is more of a transaction history rather than an actual bank statement (like the ones I can download online). Do you think they would have an issue with that?

Also, will they be able to tell that they're official statements from HSBC without an authenticity letter?
Transaction history (showing debit/credit entries) on bank letter head covering last 6 months is same like an official bank statement and will definitely serve the purpose.
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Digital signature Vs ink on employer reference letter - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:04 pm

Hi all

I have an employment reference letter from my employer (on official work stationary) which contains all the information i need it to, however, the signature is clearly a digital signature and not ink.

Do you think this will be an issue?

I work for a large company and i'm worried it will prove difficult to find someone in HR to physically sign it especially since there is a clear protocol.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Applying for a fiance visa as a sponsor to my fiance.

Thanks!

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Re: Digital signature Vs ink on employer reference letter - fiance visa

Post by seagul » Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:13 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2019 11:04 pm
Hi all

I have an employment reference letter from my employer (on official work stationary) which contains all the information i need it to, however, the signature is clearly a digital signature and not ink.

Do you think this will be an issue?

I work for a large company and i'm worried it will prove difficult to find someone in HR to physically sign it especially since there is a clear protocol.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Applying for a fiance visa as a sponsor to my fiance.

Thanks!

HO might mistakenly consider to digitally signed letter as online downloaded letter instead original one. So, in my view for safe side either get it stamped again or ask for ink signed letter.
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Re: Digital signature Vs ink on employer reference letter - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:30 pm

Thank you Seagul, I appreciate all the help.

I've emailed HR and hopefully they'll give me an answer soon.

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Financial documents - 28 days from application or biometrics appt?

Post by curiousmind » Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm

My fiancee and I plan on submitting the online application/pay fee for fiance visa on the 21st/22nd of April, which is when she arrives in her home country.

However, the date on my latest payslip is 26 of March and bank statement 1st of April... We're really confused about this because some people say they can't be older than 28 days from the time of application submission, and others say it's from the biometrics appointment.

Does anyone know for a fact which one is correct?

It makes a big difference for us because if I have to ask for an extra month of payslips and bank statements I will be submitting her supporting (original) documents from the UK (according to the vfs global website: "Your sponsor or an agent can submit supporting documents in the UK for a fee of £75 per application payable in cash or with a debit card." )

Reason for that is I don't want to have to send her these in the mail since it would take too long.

If the 28 days is from date of application she will be taking all original documents with her to submit them in her home country.

Would really appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks.

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Re: Financial documents - 28 days from application or biometrics appt?

Post by ariamus » Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:36 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:34 pm
We're really confused about this because some people say they can't be older than 28 days from the time of application submission, and others say it's from the biometrics appointment.

Does anyone know for a fact which one is correct?
No older than 28 days from the time of application submission.
Also not dated after date of application submission.

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Re: Digital signature Vs ink on employer reference letter - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:37 am

Thank you, ariamus.

By application submission you mean the date you submit the online application and book the biometrics appointment/pay the fee, correct? Not the day you submit your documents?

Sorry I just don't want to make a mistake on this. Thanks.

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Re: Digital signature Vs ink on employer reference letter - fiance visa

Post by seagul » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:18 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:37 am
Thank you, ariamus.

By application submission you mean the date you submit the online application and book the biometrics appointment/pay the fee, correct? Not the day you submit your documents?

Sorry I just don't want to make a mistake on this. Thanks.
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Organising your application - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:25 pm

Hi -

Is it OK to provide a cover page for each one of the documents you're submitting?

For example before my employment reference letter to put a page that literally just says "Employment reference letter" and before, for example, my holiday car hire receipts, to have one that says what it is "Holiday car hire receipts", or email chains with registrar, etc?

I just think it would be easier for someone to follow what everything is if I provide some guidance.

Let me know your thoughts.

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Re: Organising your application - fiance visa

Post by Sumit_sam » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:32 pm

Hi
Which country are you applying from?

I think it's no longer required since new system in UKVI now enable applicant to self-scan and upload documents with application.

But you must check online at the time of filling form that if it's as, per old system in your country. If yes then there are barcode separators available for this purpose.
No need for cover pages. All the best. 👍

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Re: Organising your application - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:12 pm

Thanks Sumit_sam

She is applying from Brazil, i've just looked into it and she can self-scan documents. Question for you: does it have to be her that scans and uploads the documents from Brazil or can I do it for her in the UK?

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Re: Organising your application - fiance visa

Post by Sumit_sam » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:53 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:12 pm
Thanks Sumit_sam

She is applying from Brazil, i've just looked into it and she can self-scan documents. Question for you: does it have to be her that scans and uploads the documents from Brazil or can I do it for her in the UK?
Hi

It does not matter from Brazil or U.K...whosoever has a complete set of documents can scan ,no problem. The idea is to scan correctly in proper order in one shot like all payslips in one shot and in serial order and same will be for bank statements etc.

So first of all, you must compile all documents against checklist of documents that best fits in your circumstances. Thank you

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UK NARIC certificate - confusion - fiance visa

Post by curiousmind » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:12 pm

My fiancee has a masters degree from the United States but is from Brazil. We sent her masters degree to UK NARIC in hopes that they would confirm that it was taught in english.

The statement says:-
Country of study: United States
UK Qualification Level: Masters Degree

Does this suffice as proof of English? We are concerned about the wording of it, as it doesn't state anywhere that it was taught in English.

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Re: Organising your application - fiance visa

Post by Sumit_sam » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:56 am

Hi

Masters degree from U.S... I don't think you need anything else to prove your level of English..but you still double check that you need NARIC.. Or not???

If were in your place I would still go to for IELTS.. A1.. Nothing like it... because after that no one can raise any question.

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GWS Reference Number - Help

Post by curiousmind » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:34 pm

Hi -

A little confused here, my fiance is Brazilian and we just paid her fee to apply for a fiance visa and the visa uk website has issued us with a GWS reference number, now when we go to the VFS Global website the GWS reference number is different and is not 9 digits like it's supposed to be, its a number that starts with F and is 11 digits long?

Do you know why there's a difference?

On Visa4UK website we booked an appointment for a month from now (only one they had), but when following the registration on the VFS website, there's a section where you book an appointment, what is this appointment? is it a biometric appointment? Or is it just an appointment to scan documents? We are hoping to get an earlier appointment for her biometrics so hope that it is in fact a biometric appointment.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

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Post by rmkirfan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:48 pm

It's default problem. When you log in, click 'My Account then 'My Application , it will ask for GWF and email , enter your details, it will load correct application.

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Re: GWS Reference Number - Help

Post by curiousmind » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:04 pm

Hi rmkirfan,

Thanks for your response.

We tried that multiple times and the following message appeared: Data not found. Please try again.

What else can we do? We need to book our appointment asap but we can't with the wrong GWF number...

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Re: GWS Reference Number - Help

Post by rmkirfan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:46 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:04 pm
Hi rmkirfan,

Thanks for your response.

We tried that multiple times and the following message appeared: Data not found. Please try again.

What else can we do? We need to book our appointment asap but we can't with the wrong GWF number...
No worries, you can also walk in to centers and get appointment for fee. (one of member in India, did the same and accepted walk in appointments).Im not sure about your country rules, but If you call them, they might confirm. such a messy system isnt..

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Re: GWS Reference Number - Help

Post by curiousmind » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:24 pm

Walk in appointments are allowed in Brazil too, but the fee is not cheap, and it seems silly when they have appointments available to book every day on the website.

Anyone know what else can be done about this?

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Re: GWS Reference Number - Help

Post by curiousmind » Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:11 pm

curiousmind wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:34 pm
Hi -

A little confused here, my fiance is Brazilian and we just paid her fee to apply for a fiance visa and the visa uk website has issued us with a GWS reference number, now when we go to the VFS Global website the GWS reference number is different and is not 9 digits like it's supposed to be, its a number that starts with F and is 11 digits long?

Do you know why there's a difference?
Please, anyone??

I've managed to switch the date of VFS appointment to 3 days from now on visa4uk website, but still can't register with VFS due to them generating a number that is not my GWF number.

Which means the "register with commercial partner" step of on my visa4uk application is still not green.

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