ILR for T2 ICT Dependant through 10 years route

[neetubhatt21]

Hi there,

please could someone advise on below situation:

First entry Main applicant tier 2 ICT: came to the UK on 21Oct10 [Visa starts 8Oct10 to 21Oct12].

Dependants:

Spouse and 2 kids (Kids age now 13 and 11 years): Arrival on 1 March 2011. [Visa date 14Feb11to 21Oct12].

For all members, Visa extended in 2012 for 3 years(06Sep12 to 04Nov15) and in 2015 for 5 years(22Oct15-18-Nov-2020). Current visa expires on 18th Nov 2020.

We all are meeting absence criteria as well.

Please could someone advise:
1) Can we apply altogether at the time of ILR application of the main applicant? i.e. around 10Sep20?
2) if not, what visa the dependants will be allowed to apply? if they are allowed to just extend, can they apply in Feb21, when they all respectively become eligible?
3) Or there is any other route - child 7 years or else?
Please suggest.
regards
Neetu

[zimba]

1) Can we apply altogether at the time of ILR application of the main applicant? i.e. around 10Sep20?

Long residence does not have a concept of dependant. You must apply on your own and qualify on your own. EACH PERSON on their own separately. Your dependants will not qualify by that time on their own

2) if not, what visa the dependants will be allowed to apply? if they are allowed to just extend, can they apply in Feb21, when they all respectively become eligible?

You cannot apply together for ILR as there is no category where you will all be eligible. They should switch to 5 year family route FLR(M) or 10 year family route FLR(FP) . FLR(M) has income requirement. They must remain under that route until they complete their 10 years on their own

[neetubhatt21]

thanks Zimba,

So just to understand
1> In this case, the family has to apply separately.
2>Since the dependant doesn't work, I assume 5Y family route FLR(M) won't work. In this case, FLR(FP) would be needed.
3> FLR(FP) application can only be filled once the main applicant is successful with his/her ILR.

please correct me if there is anything inaccurate.
regards

[zimba]

1> In this case, the family has to apply separately.

Yes

2>Since the dependant doesn't work, I assume 5Y family route FLR(M) won't work. In this case, FLR(FP) would be needed.

The 5 year family route works but I assume can get ILR under long residence in 2021 no ?

3> FLR(FP) application can only be filled once the main applicant is successful with his/her ILR.

You can apply at the same time but their application will be held until yours is granted

[neetubhatt21]

thanks Zimba,

Sorry to ask again.

In the below scenario:

>Main applicant applies first.
>Upon success of main applicant, spouse and children apply to extend on same application FLR(M).
>In Feb 2021, each dependent applicant separately applies for ILR through 10 year route. (What form?)

In above case, do you think we need to go for specialized service to apply or we can apply on our own?

thank you.

[CR001]

FLR m yea for spouse and child, ensuring you meet the English and financial requirements.

It is form SET LR for long residnece. One form for each person.

You don't need a lawyer.

[neetubhatt21]

thanks CR001.
Followup additional questions:
1. I've tried to fill LR form and didn't find anything related to parking fine information. I believe I should provide PCN ticket information somewhere. I've found the reference no against which I paid the fine to council. please advise?

2. there is question about other reasons to stay in UK. I believe its important to provide such information e.g.
1.Children have spent over 9 years in UK and are integrated in society.
2. Own a property through mortgage.
3. Seeking settlement through 10yr long residence route.
4. Applicant and dependents made friends and already part of the society and have social life in UK
5. Running job and intention to keep working for many more years to come.

Would above reasons sensible? if yes, for some of them its not possible to provide supporting documents. any suggestions here please

regards

neetu

[zimba]

PCNs do not need to be declared. You do not need to specify other reasons at all

[neetubhatt21]

thanks but at the top of application - it states below:

You must include all your reasons for wanting to
stay in the UK on this application.
If you apply later giving reasons you could give now
you may lose the right to appeal a refusal of that
application.
You can give your additional reasons in the space
provided at the end of this application if needed.

[zimba]

thanks but at the top of application - it states below:

You must include all your reasons for wanting to
stay in the UK on this application.
If you apply later giving reasons you could give now
you may lose the right to appeal a refusal of that
application.
You can give your additional reasons in the space
provided at the end of this application if needed.

Your application under the 10 year route is based on private life and it does not need any other reason. The reasons you stated above do not lead to long residence and they are irrelevant. The form is designed to be generic and can be used by a lot of people with different immigration history.

[neetubhatt21]

thank you once again.

this website is immensely helpful.

>I thought 10 private life route is different than 10 yr long residence. Since I've been on tier 2 ICT visa continuously since 20Oct10. I can apply though 10 yr long residence route on 23Sep20?

>since this application requests to disclose all reasons to stay in UK else no further review/reapplication will be entertained (if previous was unsuccessful). I just wanted to check if there is any harm in including this just to be safe?

>other additional question: since my dependents would be eligible on 01Feb21 for ILR. Considering they have to apply before their current visa expiry(18Nov20) on FLR(M) application, could there be a chance they also get ILR? (Maybe wishful thinking!)

thanks again for your insight.

[zimba]

>I thought 10 private life route is different than 10 yr long residence. Since I've been on tier 2 ICT visa continuously since 20Oct10. I can apply though 10 yr long residence route on 23Sep20?

SET(LR) is application of ILR under private life. There is also an extension under 10 year private life using FLR(LR)

>since this application requests to disclose all reasons to stay in UK else no further review/reapplication will be entertained (if previous was unsuccessful). I just wanted to check if there is any harm in including this just to be safe?

There is no harm but it provides no safety. Your view that this somehow may help is not correct

>other additional question: since my dependents would be eligible on 01Feb21 for ILR. Considering they have to apply before their current visa expiry(18Nov20) on FLR(M) application, could there be a chance they also get ILR? (Maybe wishful thinking!)

Apply for FLR(M) before visa expiry on standard service. You may be able to vary that to SET(LR) in Feb 2021