Eea residence card for parents on visitor visa

[Duddo1234]

I am non eea married to eea national. I still have to get my residence card as i have visitor visa. My parents also have visitor visa. Can they also get residence card ?

[Zerubbabel]

I think you are messing around with the Home Office and I can just advise you to be careful.

If you and your parents are trying to switch from visitor visas, it means some material facts have been either hidden or misrepresented. That can backfire at one point.

No, it's not possible to switch to anything from a visitor visa. However, by marrying an EEA national, you acquire a new status. It's not a switch really. I am here talking about a civil marriage, not ourfi, religious or similar.

For your parents, it's not possible. Since 2017, for EEA purposes, only the extended family of the EEA national are eligible to the EEA EFM route not the family of his non-EEA partner.

[Duddo1234]

As parents are direct family members, i would like to ask that my parents on visitor visa will be allowed to change to residence card as they are direct family members ? To be husband is norwegian in scotland .

[Zerubbabel]

The EEA EFM works even if the person is illegally in the UK. So it will work if they come on a visitor visa.

Still, I believe you are doing wrong that can badly backfire.

[CR001]

The EEA EFM works even if the person is illegally in the UK. So it will work if they come on a visitor visa.

Still, I believe you are doing wrong that can badly backfire.

Op asking numerous scenarios for a range of family members of EU/British citizens across different sub forums. Seems a clear abuse of the EEA/EU route.

[Zerubbabel]

The EEA EFM works even if the person is illegally in the UK. So it will work if they come on a visitor visa.

Still, I believe you are doing wrong that can badly backfire.

Op asking numerous scenarios for a range of family members of EU/British citizens across different sub forums. Seems a clear abuse of the EEA/EU route.

Thank you @CR001 I see a clear pattern of abuse here.

For the OP, for the sake of your parents, don't mess with the Home Office. They have enough power to engage with you a lengthy and expensive battle until you are broke. Follow the rules. It's easier, faster and cheaper.

[Duddo1234]

i will do on visit visa my parents will apply eea fp. is that fine ?

[Duddo1234]

For residence card of my self does my sponsor needs to be a qualified person if less than three months in uk

[Zerubbabel]

I just see a disaster waiting to happen

[Duddo1234]

what am i missing ? why saying like that ?

[Blacksea28]

It seems like OP is trying to bring all her family, friends, uncles, aunties, cousins to the UK using the rights of EEA person. Does not seem right thing to do.

[Zerubbabel]

Reading the guidance, any EEA national can bring to the UK automatically all close family:

- Spouse
- Children
- All his children
- All his grand children if any
- All grand children of his spouse if any
- His parents
- The parents of his spouse

Then:

- Any other family member, even if the 5th cousin removed, as long as that family member is dependent and doesn't work either by choice or necessity.

The spirit of the of the Directive was laudable. It meant to avoid restricting freedom of movement of EEA nationals by not restricting the freedom of movements of their non-EEA relatives that are dependent and/or part of their household. That's to say, if you are an EEA national, an EEA country cannot tell you : "you are welcome to come here but not your non-EEA wife or non-EEA children". That would've been effectively a limitation of the freedom of movement of the EEA national as it's not expected that someone relocates and leaves his household behind.

I am originally a non-EEA national. When I left my country, I left my parents, siblings, cousins... behind. In all honesty. as I am an EEA national now, I can't claim that if they are not brought over it's a limitation of my freedom of movement. If it wasn't when I left them, why suddenly is it now?

These EEA routes became open to all sort of abuse and this is why they are getting more and more difficult and will be eventually closed.

To return to the OP, as EEA routes are still active, there is nothing preventing you from filling as many EEA applications as you need for all your relatives. They are not expensive. The Home Office would probably push back some and approve some.

[Duddo1234]

do the spouse parents need to be dependent on eu or non eu spouse ?

[Zerubbabel]

Under the EU Settlement Scheme, their dependency is assumed:

eea-route-applications/eu-settlement-sc ... 83013.html

[hrak1978]

@Zerubbabel

That's helpful really!!!

One question please advise according to this list:

Spouse
- Children
- All his children
- All his grand children if any
- All grand children of his spouse if any
- His parents
- The parents of his spouse

If he is allowed to bring all his children and his grand children then how about the mother (daughter in law) of grand children? Can he bring her to UK as well?

In my case my wife came to UK in 2014 on EFM and she got Settled Status too.

Please advise any guideline or reference.

Many thanks.