Apply for UKM what happens to ILR

[Nv1]

Hi everyone ...

when is the earliest we can apply for ILR
I.e when do we count the 28 days before we can apply

UK ancestral Visa
Visa Valid from 22 Aug 2015
Visa expires 22 Aug 2020
Entry stamp 4 Sept 2015

Is it 25 July or 7 August?

Thanks

[CR001]

No sooner than within 28 days before the 5th anniversary of the visa issue date.

[Nv1]

Hi all

Ok currently on Ancestry Visa and due to apply for ILR in the coming months. My husband is able to apply for UKM but will do so after we apply for ILR.

Question is once he has applied for UKM / citizenship, does that mean we can then apply for the children's and mine citizenship? Or do we still need to wait the 12 months?

Either way is fine just curious!
Thanks

[secret.simon]

Presumably you mean you are an Ancestry visa dependent and not on an Ancestry visa yourself, as your husband can apply on Form UKM anyway.

Question is once he has applied for UKM / citizenship, does that mean we can then apply for the children's and mine citizenship?

Provided your children and you have got ILR, you can apply for British citizenship immediately after your husband has attended the citizenship ceremony and got the registration certificate. To apply before 12 months of ILR, your spouse must be a British citizen on the date of your naturalisation application and he only becomes a British citizen after attending the citizenship ceremony and getting the registration certificate.

Given the current climate (with the pandemic an people working from home), citizenship applications are reported to be taking quite some time so factor that into your calculations.

[Nv1]

Hi everyone...

Please advise in the following scenario

Mothers parents born in S Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe
Mother born in Zimbabwe 1947, registered (say registration not naturalisation as document says certificate of registration) as a British citizen with a right of abode in 1975 - only held British citizenship from that point onwards
Child born in zimbabwe 1977 to british mother and S Rhodesia/ zimbabwe dad

Is there any way to uk for the child born in Rhodesia/zimbabwe to a British mom?

[secret.simon]

As the mother was a British citizen with Right of Abode before the birth of the child, the child should be able to register as a British citizen using Form UKM. Also see guidance (in particular Page 4).

You may need the original certificate of registration of the mother.

Be aware that the child will be a British citizen by descent and will not be able to pass on their British citizenship to their own children.

[Nv1]

Thank you for the reply... appreciate it.

Quick follow up if you don't mind ... if the kids have been living in UK last 5yrs on an AV dependant visa would they then be able to apply or do they need to wait the 12mnths then naturlise?

[secret.simon]

How old are the kids and whose kids are we talking about? The kids of the child in the example above or the child mentioned above themselves?

[Nv1]

Children of the child (born in zims - citizen by decent) mentioned above ... and the children are 12 and 14 ... all currently in Uk as AV dependant waiting for ILR

[secret.simon]

if the kids have been living in UK last 5yrs on an AV dependant visa would they then be able to apply or do they need to wait the 12mnths then naturlise?

The children can register as British citizens when both the children and one parent holds ILR and the other parent is or is applying to become a British citizen.

If the main applicant is in the UK on an Ancestry visa, s/he may want to look at naturalising as a British citizen, making them a British citizen otherwise than by descent, rather than registration, which would make them a British citizen by descent.

Mind you, the only impact of the difference would be to children born abroad in the future. There is no other discernible impact.

[Nv1]

hi everyone

Heres a question
If you have ILR granted status but actually you qualify for UKM and then if you apply for UKM and its rejected (just in vase)
will that impact your current ILR?
would it effect ILR status or will it effect the naturalisation process in future?

[alterhase58]

Your ILR will not be affected - naturalisation is not an immigration application, though I believe UKM registers you as you have an entitlement.
In case your application is rejected you will be given the reasons and generally a likely date when you can apply again. There is also a reconsideration option you could request.

[CR001]

Topics merged.

[CR001]

Your ILR will not be affected - naturalisation is not an immigration application, though I believe UKM registers you as you have an entitlement.
In case your application is rejected you will be given the reasons and generally a likely date when you can apply again. There is also a reconsideration option you could request.

Ukm refusal doesn't have a "date when someone can apply again". For ukm an applicant either qualifies or they don't. If refused it can only be refused due to not qualifying and meeting the limited criteria, that is it.