Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

[alterhase58]

Hi,

I'm currently in the process of applying for naturalisation and I have a question regarding the documents I need to provide. I'm in the UK since 2011 and I have changed my last name in 2012 (parents got married) and was wondering what I need to provide as evidence for this? Or if I need anything at all because it has been more than 5 years ago?
I have been issued with a new birth certificate(in German), dated 2012. Would that be sufficient?

Thanks

If you are applying as an adult (AN) a birth certificate is not required. Presumably your passport and PR/Settled Status are in your current name.

[CheshireKnight]

Hello Everyone

Appreciate your advise.

How long does it take for the HO sends notifications for receiving Naturalization application send via post and not online.

I’ve send my application with the supporting documents on the 31st of July and not heard anything yet.

Appreciate if anyone whom submitted their application via post would share their experience.

Thanks

[CR001]

Hello Everyone

Appreciate your advise.

How long does it take for the HO sends notifications for receiving Naturalization application send via post and not online.

I’ve send my application with the supporting documents on the 31st of July and not heard anything yet.

Appreciate if anyone whom submitted their application via post would share their experience.

Thanks

Why did you apply by post? You should have applied online if you are in the uk and uploaded digital scans of your supporting documents. No originals needed to be sent if applying online.

It can take a couple of weeks to get an acknowledgement. Ukvi is working skeleton staff and many still working from home, which means your application will possible just be lying in the post room.

[CheshireKnight]

Thanks CR001 for your respond

I’ve applied via solicitor and she actually advised me to do so.

Quiet frustrating to be honest, especially that I came up to know that it’s rare someone submitted their application by post.

Is there anyway to check if the HO has received the application?

Thanks

[CR001]

Thanks CR001 for your respond

I’ve applied via solicitor and she actually advised me to do so.

Quiet frustrating to be honest, especially that I came up to know that it’s rare someone submitted their application by post.

Is there anyway to check if the HO has received the application?

Thanks

The paper form very clearly states it is not for those within the UK.

You do realise that all your original documents and passport will be kept by ho until a decision is made.

A solicitor is also not needed for citizenship applications. It is a fairly easy application to make.

The call centre won't give you any update until at least 6 months has passed and have access to your case file either. They only give out generic information.

[paul8521]

You can add an explanatory note regarding your circumstances, and upload as part of your documents.

Thanks alter hase Yes everything I will provide is in my current name. Just to make sure - I should still list my old name in the 'other name' section of the application, since I have lived here under this name for about a year?

[alterhase58]

You can add an explanatory note regarding your circumstances, and upload as part of your documents.

Thanks alter hase Yes everything I will provide is in my current name. Just to make sure - I should still list my old name in the 'other name' section of the application, since I have lived here under this name for about a year?

Good point - As you were here with your previous name yes, note under "other name".

[westminster1213]

Thank you that was very clear.

Another quick question: If i have been visiting my home country 2 times a year for the past 5 years - in absences do I say reason for travel as "Holiday"? is that acceptable?

Thank you

[CR001]

Thank you that was very clear.

Another quick question: If i have been visiting my home country 2 times a year for the past 5 years - in absences do I say reason for travel as "Holiday"? is that acceptable?

Thank you

Yes fine.

[gandaxia]

Hi

I am going to apply for naturalisation end of Aug or sept, my passport will expire in Oct 2020. There’s no appointment available in the embassy to extend my passport. Am I still ok to apply for naturalisation before my passport expire, and porbably would have expired already by the time i get the result? Thank you

[flashq]

Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you

[CR001]

Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you

1. You should wait till September. Being physically present in the UK at the start of 5 year qualifying period is a mandatory requirement and members have been refused citizenship for failing to meet this and lost their fees. Citizenship is based ONLY on the 5 years immediately preceding the date of application. So applying with "5 years and 4 months" is completely irrelevant. HO will only consider 5 years for the physically presence requirement.

2. Should be dated as close to date of application as possible.

[flashq]

Hi, can the moderators kindly help with the questions below:

1) On the online form, there is a part that says You must have been in the UK on the first day of your 5-year qualifying period: I was outside the UK from May 2015 until September 2015 do I need to wait until September 2020 to apply? or can I give the HO more than 5 years qualifying period (include my travel from May to September 2015)? and give them 5 years and 4 months so I can give a date that I was in the UK?

2) is there an expiry date for the referees' letters? for example 30 days from the date they sign?

Your help is much appreciated.
Thank you

1. You should wait till September. Being physically present in the UK at the start of 5 year qualifying period is a mandatory requirement and members have been refused citizenship for failing to meet this and lost their fees. Citizenship is based ONLY on the 5 years immediately preceding the date of application. So applying with "5 years and 4 months" is completely irrelevant. HO will only consider 5 years for the physically presence requirement.

2. Should be dated as close to date of application as possible.

Thank you very much.

[paul8521]

Hi moderators,

another question came up and I could use your help, please. Seems a bit complicated, but I'll try my luck here..
I have gathered all my documents ready to upload, and when I received a letter I requested from HMRC containing my employment history I realised there has been a problem with my tax calculations. I called them up and they said apparently my previous employer made a mistake when updating my information with them. On my P60s show the correct gross pay, and tax/NI paid, however for 2018/19 HMRC records show I have received 0.00 gross pay and paid 0.00 in tax. HMRC said to send in my P60 and explain what happened in a letter (which I did), but this may lead to a recalculation of my taxes and as a result might show that I owe some amount.
I would wait until this is all sorted before applying for naturalisation, but due to the circumstances (German citizen) I would really need to apply by the end of the year.
Do you think this affects the application (i.e. good character requirement)? It's not my fault and I'm trying to fix it yet I see why this could be an issue.

Hope this all made sense, thanks guys

[alterhase58]

Hi moderators,

another question came up and I could use your help, please. Seems a bit complicated, but I'll try my luck here..
I have gathered all my documents ready to upload, and when I received a letter I requested from HMRC containing my employment history I realised there has been a problem with my tax calculations. I called them up and they said apparently my previous employer made a mistake when updating my information with them. On my P60s show the correct gross pay, and tax/NI paid, however for 2018/19 HMRC records show I have received 0.00 gross pay and paid 0.00 in tax. HMRC said to send in my P60 and explain what happened in a letter (which I did), but this may lead to a recalculation of my taxes and as a result might show that I owe some amount.
I would wait until this is all sorted before applying for naturalisation, but due to the circumstances (German citizen) I would really need to apply by the end of the year.
Do you think this affects the application (i.e. good character requirement)? It's not my fault and I'm trying to fix it yet I see why this could be an issue.

Hope this all made sense, thanks guys

P60s are used by EU citizens as proof of residency, as their passports are not stamped at the border.
What you describe is more an administrative issue between an employer and HMRC, it doesn't illustrate any kind of wrong doing by yourself. UKVI are not checking or reworking your earnings and resulting tax liabilities. I believe there it will be sufficient to submit your P60s. In any case, dealing with the mistakes of a former employer can take a while. In your situation it is clearly important to submit your application - UKVI can always ask questions, however I can't recall anyone reporting here they had issues due to P60s data.

[paul8521]

P60s are used by EU citizens as proof of residency, as their passports are not stamped at the border.
What you describe is more an administrative issue between an employer and HMRC, it doesn't illustrate any kind of wrong doing by yourself. UKVI are not checking or reworking your earnings and resulting tax liabilities. I believe there it will be sufficient to submit your P60s. In any case, dealing with the mistakes of a former employer can take a while. In your situation it is clearly important to submit your application - UKVI can always ask questions, however I can't recall anyone reporting here they had issues due to P60s data.

Thanks for that, it is reassuring - I read this in the Guide AN which made me worried: We may ask H.M. Revenue & Customs for confirmation that your tax and National Insurance affairs are in order.
Would it be worth adding a cover letter talking about those circumstances, or will this make it more confusing?

[alterhase58]

P60s are used by EU citizens as proof of residency, as their passports are not stamped at the border.
What you describe is more an administrative issue between an employer and HMRC, it doesn't illustrate any kind of wrong doing by yourself. UKVI are not checking or reworking your earnings and resulting tax liabilities. I believe there it will be sufficient to submit your P60s. In any case, dealing with the mistakes of a former employer can take a while. In your situation it is clearly important to submit your application - UKVI can always ask questions, however I can't recall anyone reporting here they had issues due to P60s data.

Thanks for that, it is reassuring - I read this in the Guide AN which made me worried: We may ask H.M. Revenue & Customs for confirmation that your tax and National Insurance affairs are in order.
Would it be worth adding a cover letter talking about those circumstances, or will this make it more confusing?

Personally I believe supplying your P60s will be sufficient. Explaining circumstances which are beyond your control can be confusing. It is an administrative issue and you have not been assessed by HMRC for under-payment of taxes, I guess. BTW under-payment happens all the time (to me at least) and is not an issue unless you are taken to court about it. UKVI have access to many government databases - they would look for persistent non-payment, evasion, etc, rather than checking you paid the correct amount (that's HMRC's job).

[paul8521]

P60s are used by EU citizens as proof of residency, as their passports are not stamped at the border.
What you describe is more an administrative issue between an employer and HMRC, it doesn't illustrate any kind of wrong doing by yourself. UKVI are not checking or reworking your earnings and resulting tax liabilities. I believe there it will be sufficient to submit your P60s. In any case, dealing with the mistakes of a former employer can take a while. In your situation it is clearly important to submit your application - UKVI can always ask questions, however I can't recall anyone reporting here they had issues due to P60s data.

Thanks for that, it is reassuring - I read this in the Guide AN which made me worried: We may ask H.M. Revenue & Customs for confirmation that your tax and National Insurance affairs are in order.
Would it be worth adding a cover letter talking about those circumstances, or will this make it more confusing?

Personally I believe supplying your P60s will be sufficient. Explaining circumstances which are beyond your control can be confusing. It is an administrative issue and you have not been assessed by HMRC for under-payment of taxes, I guess. BTW under-payment happens all the time (to me at least) and is not an issue unless you are taken to court about it. UKVI have access to many government databases - they would look for persistent non-payment, evasion, etc, rather than checking you paid the correct amount (that's HMRC's job).

Thank you. Will proceed with my application

[Saeed5]

Hi
Just I would ask the 5 years address history on AN form should be the same address on that address Igiven I definite leave to remain when I applied.

If both were different so the going to refuse the citizenship application?

Thanks All

[alterhase58]

Hi
Just I would ask the 5 years address history on AN form should be the same address on that address Igiven I definite leave to remain when I applied.

If both were different so the going to refuse the citizenship application?

Thanks All

Give the actual addresses you lived at over the past five years - nothing to do with what you stated in your ILR application - separate application processes. No refusal because of different addresses!

[Scruff]

Hiya

Currently filling out my application, where it asks for employment history it allows you to tick both employed and self-employed but doesn't give you anywhere to enter self-employed details, just employment details. Do I just leave it at that for now, and provide a letter from myself stating I am freelance? (looking at my ILR application this is what i did then)

I'm also currently in consultation for redundancy (find out next week) from my employer of six years, so it's possible my current job will have ended by the time this application is reviewed. should I wait until that has happened or just get on and submit it now? i see elsewhere on the forum that citizenship is not dependent on employment.

finally, trips away - the form doesn't specify what period of time this should cover, however from reading elsewhere on this forum it appears I should just do the last five years, is that correct?

thanks in advance!

[alterhase58]

Currently filling out my application, where it asks for employment history it allows you to tick both employed and self-employed but doesn't give you anywhere to enter self-employed details, just employment details. Do I just leave it at that for now, and provide a letter from myself stating I am freelance? (looking at my ILR application this is what i did then)

Leave as is - self-employment is just that - you are not asked what you do.

I'm also currently in consultation for redundancy (find out next week) from my employer of six years, so it's possible my current job will have ended by the time this application is reviewed. should I wait until that has happened or just get on and submit it now? i see elsewhere on the forum that citizenship is not dependent on employment.

You can apply now with the details as they are now - correct employment as such is not a requirement.

finally, trips away - the form doesn't specify what period of time this should cover, however from reading elsewhere on this forum it appears I should just do the last five years, is that correct?

For the five years immediately preceding your application.

[Scruff]

thanks alterhase58, much appreciated!

Currently filling out my application, where it asks for employment history it allows you to tick both employed and self-employed but doesn't give you anywhere to enter self-employed details, just employment details. Do I just leave it at that for now, and provide a letter from myself stating I am freelance? (looking at my ILR application this is what i did then)

Leave as is - self-employment is just that - you are not asked what you do.

I'm also currently in consultation for redundancy (find out next week) from my employer of six years, so it's possible my current job will have ended by the time this application is reviewed. should I wait until that has happened or just get on and submit it now? i see elsewhere on the forum that citizenship is not dependent on employment.

You can apply now with the details as they are now - correct employment as such is not a requirement.

finally, trips away - the form doesn't specify what period of time this should cover, however from reading elsewhere on this forum it appears I should just do the last five years, is that correct?

For the five years immediately preceding your application.

[Sam1394]

Hi

There is a question about dependants in the naturalisaton form.

Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

My son has got a British passport and my husband has got a family life as a partner visa. Do they my dependants?
Is the answer “yes” ?

[Nishkhan]

Hi guys I’m new to the forum.
Can any one help me with the form.
I’m self employed and the form doesn’t give any option for self employed it only ask you are you employed or not. What should I do to compost my application.
Secondly it’s asking 10 years of history and I’ve lived in Uk for 8 years.