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Appendix ll Spouse Visa online application

Post by noneeadory » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:30 pm

Hello.

Am completing Spouse Visa application online and getting all supporting documentation ready. I've read here people talking about Appendix ll and attaching supporting documents.

What is Appendix ll ? What does it relate to ?

I've re read through my online application and I can't seem to find any reference to this.

Am I missing something?

Thank you,
Dory.

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Re: Appendix ll Spouse Visa online application

Post by seagul » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:42 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:30 pm
Hello.

Am completing Spouse Visa application online and getting all supporting documentation ready. I've read here people talking about Appendix ll and attaching supporting documents.

What is Appendix ll ? What does it relate to ?

I've re read through my online application and I can't seem to find any reference to this.

Am I missing something?

Thank you,
Dory.
According to few members it is no longer required because the same now is incorporated into the online application. However, if you still want to view it then check the link at below:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... Ucl4dTaMBn
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Re: Appendix ll Spouse Visa online application

Post by AmazonianX » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:47 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:30 pm
Hello.

Am completing Spouse Visa application online and getting all supporting documentation ready. I've read here people talking about Appendix ll and attaching supporting documents.

What is Appendix ll ? What does it relate to ? It relate to declaration of employment and financial circumstances or situation.

I've re read through my online application and I can't seem to find any reference to this. Already incorporated into the online application so you won't see it referred to separately.

Am I missing something? No, your correctly filled online application is a one stop shop taking care of what you need to fill

Thank you,
Dory.

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Re: Appendix ll Spouse Visa online application

Post by noneeadory » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:34 pm

Thank you for so quick reply seagul and AmazonianX.

Very helpful and explains all.

Appreciated, Dory.

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Financial Requirement Category A plus D

Post by noneeadory » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:50 pm

I am relying on Annual Salary (with Employer over/longer than 6 months) plus Cash Savings. (I'm the Sponsor in the UK).

My annual salary is £18,005 and I've been with the NHS for nearly 2 years in my current full time job. My Cash Savings will make up the difference.

Filling in the online application and from my reading of the rules I assumed that this would be Category A plus Category D and that I would have to supply 6 months Salary Slips plus 6 months Bank Statements corresponding to the net salary paid into my account.

My concern / question is that in the online application section where it states the mandatory and other documents that I will have to submit, it is asking for 12 months Salary Slips and 12 months corresponding Bank Statements.

Does anybody know why this is? Is this correct or wrong?

I've read that they only ask for '12 months' if you're applying under Category B where you have worked with your current employer for under 6 months.

I'm slightly confused.

Many thanks,
Dory.

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Re: Financial Requirement Category A plus D

Post by AmazonianX » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:59 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:50 pm
I am relying on Annual Salary (with Employer over/longer than 6 months) plus Cash Savings. (I'm the Sponsor in the UK).

My annual salary is £18,005 and I've been with the NHS for nearly 2 years in my current full time job. My Cash Savings will make up the difference.

Filling in the online application and from my reading of the rules I assumed that this would be Category A plus Category D and that I would have to supply 6 months Salary Slips plus 6 months Bank Statements corresponding to the net salary paid into my account.

My concern / question is that in the online application section where it states the mandatory and other documents that I will have to submit, it is asking for 12 months Salary Slips and 12 months corresponding Bank Statements.

Does anybody know why this is? Is this correct or wrong?

I've read that they only ask for '12 months' if you're applying under Category B where you have worked with your current employer for under 6 months.

I'm slightly confused.

Many thanks,
Dory.
The forms are generic and comes up with things that are not relevant to particular applicants. Indicate your route and provide needed documents as relevant.

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Re: Financial Requirement Category A plus D

Post by seagul » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:31 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:50 pm


Does anybody know why this is? Is this correct or wrong?

I've read that they only ask for '12 months' if you're applying under Category B where you have worked with your current employer for under 6 months.

I'm slightly confused.

Many thanks,
Dory.
Usually on choosing the option 1 or A you get prompted for 6 months worth of documents under category A. For addressing the same, attaching a covering letter is desirable which fulfill the criteria whilst clarifying this error.
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Re: Financial Requirement Category A plus D

Post by noneeadory » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:33 pm

Thanks for your response AmazonianX. Will do as you say.

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Re: Financial Requirement Category A plus D

Post by noneeadory » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:34 pm

Thank you also seagul.

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SHARED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES Spouse Visa

Post by noneeadory » Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:43 pm

Hi everybody.
I'm stuck on the Shared Financial Responsibilities question.
I'm in the UK working British Citizen with my (our) 15 year old daughter who is ILR.
All of our UK costs are met by myself - my husband is in the Philippines.
So surely we have no shared financial responsibilities BUT I'm concerned to answer no to this question.

If I answer NO, is there a negative side to this when the ECO considers the application.
For example - that a serious and continuing relationship exists - we've been married since 1999 and I and my daughter arrived in the UK in 2009 and have been here ever since (finally becoming a British Citizen and ILR for my daughter).

Why are they asking this question - what are they getting at - is it a trick question?

Nothing in the UK costs for myself and my daughter 'are shared financial responsibilities'.

In the Philippines he earns cash in hand money as a driver with no employment contract or salary slips. He has costs which he meets himself from this cash in hand money.

Every 5 or 6 months or so I send him a little spending money (remittance) but that's all it really is for - a treat / extra spending money.

Am I correct in thinking that for this application Family Spouse Visa that UK Visas and Immigration are not interested in his Philippine Employment (no section asking about this unlike if he were applying for a Tourist Visa which he is not)?

Inclined to answering this question simply as 'NO' but am concerned that there may be some negative attachment to this by the ECO processing the application.

Any suggestions / comments anybody?

Many thanks, Dory.

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Re: SHARED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES Spouse Visa

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:15 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 2:43 pm
Hi everybody.
I'm stuck on the Shared Financial Responsibilities question.
I'm in the UK working British Citizen with my (our) 15 year old daughter who is ILR.
All of our UK costs are met by myself - my husband is in the Philippines.
So surely we have no shared financial responsibilities BUT I'm concerned to answer no to this question.

If I answer NO, is there a negative side to this when the ECO considers the application.
For example - that a serious and continuing relationship exists - we've been married since 1999 and I and my daughter arrived in the UK in 2009 and have been here ever since (finally becoming a British Citizen and ILR for my daughter).

Why are they asking this question - what are they getting at - is it a trick question?

Nothing in the UK costs for myself and my daughter 'are shared financial responsibilities'.

In the Philippines he earns cash in hand money as a driver with no employment contract or salary slips. He has costs which he meets himself from this cash in hand money.

Every 5 or 6 months or so I send him a little spending money (remittance) but that's all it really is for - a treat / extra spending money.

Am I correct in thinking that for this application Family Spouse Visa that UK Visas and Immigration are not interested in his Philippine Employment (no section asking about this unlike if he were applying for a Tourist Visa which he is not)?

Inclined to answering this question simply as 'NO' but am concerned that there may be some negative attachment to this by the ECO processing the application.

Any suggestions / comments anybody?

Many thanks, Dory.
Answer it truthfully as it applies to you, there will be no negative attachment.

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Re: SHARED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES Spouse Visa

Post by noneeadory » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:43 pm

Thanks for answering AmazonianX - it's reassuring.

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Re: SHARED FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES Spouse Visa

Post by AmazonianX » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:54 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:43 pm
Thanks for answering AmazonianX - it's reassuring.
If there are other questions that crops up being it on here and the able mods and others shall aid

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Spouse Visa ACCOMMODATION and online question

Post by noneeadory » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:29 pm

Have one question about the online application section where it asks the applicant (my husband in the Philippines) if I, (the sponsor in the UK) own the accommodation where we will live (and then some questions about Proof/Evidence of Accommodation below).

The answer is "NO" and then there are four options to choose from:
1) They rent it privately
2) They rent it from a local authority or housing association
3) They do not own it or rent it, but live there with someone else
4) Other ... with this option there is a box asking "Give more details about the property"

My/our situation is that my daughter and I live in a house owned by my British sister and her British husband (therefore my brother-in-law) - we don't pay them rent (but of course we contribute unofficially to this and that to help out).

Should I just tick No.3 "they do not own it or rent it, but live there with someone else" as this applies in our case OR is it better to tick No.4 and utilise the Comments Box which appears (allows 500 characters) to explain fully that we live with my sister and brother-in-law (so that our accommodation complies with the meaning of 'One Household' as we are all 'Family')?

PROOF OF ACCOMMODATION
Have been through all of the paperwork available with my sister and brother-in-law (who purchased the property in January 2004).

We have the following:
1) Solicitor's Letter dated November 2003 confirming instruction by my sister and brother-in-law to act in the sale of their previous property and purchase of this one.

2) Estate Agents Descriptive Printout of the property when it was advertised for sale in November 2003 showing all the rooms with description.

3) Estate Agent's Letter dated January 2004 confirming that Contracts have been exchanged on the property purchase.

4) Solicitor's Letter dated April 2004 confirming that "the Land Registry have now completed the Registration of your Title to the above property". It also mentions that a copy of the entries shown on the Title were enclosed - BUT we can not find them.
(as they have a mortgage the Original Title Entries were sent to the Lender).

5) Bank's Letter dated 29 January 2004 confirming Mortgage A/C Number and Terms.

6) Bank's Latest Annual Mortgage Statement Letter incorrectly dated January 2019 (should read January 2020) but clearly showing the period 1 January 2019 to 31 December 2019 and showing date of Statement correct as at 31 December 2019.

Next one is not due to be received until January 2021 for the full 2020 year BUT can get an Interim Statement for 1 January 2020 to Present Date.

7) Council Tax Annual Bill dated 9 March 2020.

8) NO OBJECTION LETTER from my sister/brother-in-law to live together in their house

9) Utility Bills (all in their names) for:
i) Water - 6 monthly bill dated 22 May 2020
ii) Gas/Electricity Annual Bill dated 16 April 2020
iii) House Insurance Annual Bill dated 27 August 2020

Will all these be enough?
Have I missed anything that is really necessary?
Is this too many / overkill?
I thought that the dates on any proof had to be less than 28 days old - how can this be with most companies only giving an annual bill - for example even the Council Tax is dated 9 March 2020?
None of the documents about the house are in my name? Is this a problem?

Thanks once again, best wishes, Dory

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Re: Spouse Visa ACCOMMODATION and online question

Post by AmazonianX » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:10 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:29 pm
Have one question about the online application section where it asks the applicant (my husband in the Philippines) if I, (the sponsor in the UK) own the accommodation where we will live (and then some questions about Proof/Evidence of Accommodation below).

The answer is "NO" and then there are four options to choose from:
1) They rent it privately
2) They rent it from a local authority or housing association
3) They do not own it or rent it, but live there with someone else
4) Other ... with this option there is a box asking "Give more details about the property"

My/our situation is that my daughter and I live in a house owned by my British sister and her British husband (therefore my brother-in-law) - we don't pay them rent (but of course we contribute unofficially to this and that to help out).

Should I just tick No.3 "they do not own it or rent it, but live there with someone else" as this applies in our case OR is it better to tick No.4 and utilise the Comments Box which appears (allows 500 characters) to explain fully that we live with my sister and brother-in-law (so that our accommodation complies with the meaning of 'One Household' as we are all 'Family')?

PROOF OF ACCOMMODATION
Have been through all of the paperwork available with my sister and brother-in-law (who purchased the property in January 2004).

We have the following:
1) Solicitor's Letter dated November 2003 confirming instruction by my sister and brother-in-law to act in the sale of their previous property and purchase of this one.

2) Estate Agents Descriptive Printout of the property when it was advertised for sale in November 2003 showing all the rooms with description.

3) Estate Agent's Letter dated January 2004 confirming that Contracts have been exchanged on the property purchase.

4) Solicitor's Letter dated April 2004 confirming that "the Land Registry have now completed the Registration of your Title to the above property". It also mentions that a copy of the entries shown on the Title were enclosed - BUT we can not find them.
(as they have a mortgage the Original Title Entries were sent to the Lender).

5) Bank's Letter dated 29 January 2004 confirming Mortgage A/C Number and Terms.

6) Bank's Latest Annual Mortgage Statement Letter incorrectly dated January 2019 (should read January 2020) but clearly showing the period 1 January 2019 to 31 December 2019 and showing date of Statement correct as at 31 December 2019.

Next one is not due to be received until January 2021 for the full 2020 year BUT can get an Interim Statement for 1 January 2020 to Present Date.

7) Council Tax Annual Bill dated 9 March 2020.

8) NO OBJECTION LETTER from my sister/brother-in-law to live together in their house

9) Utility Bills (all in their names) for:
i) Water - 6 monthly bill dated 22 May 2020
ii) Gas/Electricity Annual Bill dated 16 April 2020
iii) House Insurance Annual Bill dated 27 August 2020

Will all these be enough?
Have I missed anything that is really necessary?
Is this too many / overkill?
I thought that the dates on any proof had to be less than 28 days old - how can this be with most companies only giving an annual bill - for example even the Council Tax is dated 9 March 2020?
None of the documents about the house are in my name? Is this a problem?

Thanks once again, best wishes, Dory
Either Option 3 or 4 and you have identified the documents you need in support of this.
If 3, you can give the explanation of circumstances in additional information section or write a cover letter.

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Re: Spouse Visa ACCOMMODATION and online question

Post by seagul » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:03 pm

noneeadory wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:29 pm


We have the following:
1) Solicitor's Letter dated November 2003 confirming instruction by my sister and brother-in-law to act in the sale of their previous property and purchase of this one.

2) Estate Agents Descriptive Printout of the property when it was advertised for sale in November 2003 showing all the rooms with description.

3) Estate Agent's Letter dated January 2004 confirming that Contracts have been exchanged on the property purchase.

4) Solicitor's Letter dated April 2004 confirming that "the Land Registry have now completed the Registration of your Title to the above property". It also mentions that a copy of the entries shown on the Title were enclosed - BUT we can not find them.
(as they have a mortgage the Original Title Entries were sent to the Lender).

5) Bank's Letter dated 29 January 2004 confirming Mortgage A/C Number and Terms.

6) Bank's Latest Annual Mortgage Statement Letter incorrectly dated January 2019 (should read January 2020) but clearly showing the period 1 January 2019 to 31 December 2019 and showing date of Statement correct as at 31 December 2019.

Next one is not due to be received until January 2021 for the full 2020 year BUT can get an Interim Statement for 1 January 2020 to Present Date.

7) Council Tax Annual Bill dated 9 March 2020.

8) NO OBJECTION LETTER from my sister/brother-in-law to live together in their house

9) Utility Bills (all in their names) for:
i) Water - 6 monthly bill dated 22 May 2020
ii) Gas/Electricity Annual Bill dated 16 April 2020
iii) House Insurance Annual Bill dated 27 August 2020

In above situation you only need:
1. Title register which can be download at
https://www.gov.uk/get-information-abou ... e-register

2. Mortgage statement even the latest interim one

3. Noc letter.

Nothing else.
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CHANGES to Spouse Visa Application after submitting online BUT before Biometrics

Post by noneeadory » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:48 pm

Good evening everybody.

Have last week submitted online application for Spouse Visa and made payment etc.
Still getting all supporting documents together - no biometrics at VFS Manila booked yet.

BUT now Need to make a small change to my employer's details as follows:
(Have not changed Employer but details given of contact person have changed)

Originally went to HR Office and the person I spoke to gave me her name lets say Miss Smith and her personal HR work email address lets say Miss.Smith@nhs.net - for sending her the request for my Employer Confirmation of Employment Letter - which I did.

On the one page in the online application about CURRENT EMPLOYMENT DETAILS (of sponsor ME) I put HR Recruitment - Miss Smith under company address and Miss.Smith@nhs.net under company email address.

She is now not working in HR.

I'm still chasing for this letter but it will be provided by somebody else in the HR Office now.

Everything else is still correct though i.e.
Name of Employer
Company Address (except for HR Recruitment - Miss Smith)
Company Telephone Number

So wrong name of contact person and wrong email address in the application.

ONCE SUBMITTED you can't change any details and the advice from UKVI with their Payment Confirmation email is:

"If you need to change any of your information, you must submit a new application" and elsewhere they also say "Your application details cannot be changed. If you need to change any of your information, you will need to cancel your application and submit a new one. You can get a refund if you cancel before you have provided your biometrics".

Surely this isn't necessary for such a small correction to make, or is it?
If I left this as it is, would this cause a problem - would they reject this application because of this mistake?

Any suggestions or solutions please - any advice as to what I should do?

As always, thank you and best wishes, Dory

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Re: CHANGES to Spouse Visa Application after submitting online BUT before Biometrics

Post by seagul » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:26 am

You can address this in your own covering letter. As long as the contact detail of the company is correct then shouldn't be any issue.
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VFS documents uploaded - UKVI unable to open/view

Post by noneeadory » Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:11 pm

Hello everybody.

Submitted my spouse visa application successfully on 15 November 2020.

Finished uploading all supporting documents beginning of December 2020 (the VFS system wouldn't accept any pdf format ones at the time so we uploaded JPEG ones instead - all correct file sizes and successfully uploaded) and my spouse had his biometrics taken on 16 December 2020.

NOW today 21 January 2021 we've received an email from UKVI saying they are unable to view any of the documents that we uploaded (131 in all) and that we should now send them as pdf attachments via email(s) to them instead.

They are also 'threatening' to refuse his application if we don't do this.

Why has this happened? Do they do this on purpose to make things harder for applicants?

They've also said that we can withdraw the application and pay again to resubmit - which is crazy because there would still be no guarantee that the VFS uploading system would work.

Is this a common occurrence with the VFS uploading system that just doesn't seem to work as it should.

Has anybody else had this problem with UKVI not being able to view their uploaded documents - what happened and was it successfully overcome?

So annoyed - any comments would be reassuring.

Many thanks,
Dory

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