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Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by Martyna » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:14 pm

Hi all,

I would really appreciate your advice on the following:

I'm an EEU national (Polish) hoping to apply for British citizenship via naturalisation.
I was granted Settled Status on the 2nd of October 2019 (>12 months ago) (I do not have a permanent residence card though), I've been living in the UK for the past 6 years, all spent studying (Undergrad + PhD). I'm trying to figure out how to prove my residence in the UK since my passport is not stamped most of the time when I travel in/out of the UK.

The naturalisation booklet says:
'If your passport is not stamped when you come into the United Kingdom, (..), you must provide
your passport and also provide alternative evidence of residence as above. If you
are an EEA national, you must additionally provide the information listed below.'


The evidence as above is the following:
'supply letters from employers (including start and finish dates), payslips, P60s, educational
establishments or other government departments indicating the applicant’s
presence in the United Kingdom during the relevant period'


My question is:
- can I only provide letters from educational establishments (i.e. my Undergraduate and my PhD letters) to prove my residency? Is that sufficient?
- is the HO unable to get that information from my passport? Or are they and would that only serve as an additional evidence?

Thanks for all your help!
Martyna

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Re: Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by alterhase58 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:23 pm

- can I only provide letters from educational establishments (i.e. my Undergraduate and my PhD letters) to prove my residency? Is that sufficient?
Yes - but you can provide other evidence, as described in the guidance you quoted. Do you have any concerns?
- is the HO unable to get that information from my passport? Or are they and would that only serve as an additional evidence?
Yes - it's the applicant who has to prove residency - those with UK ILR can use their passports because they are stamped at the border.

Did you have Comprehensive Sickness Insurance?
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Re: Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by secret.simon » Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:44 pm

Martyna wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:14 pm
- is the HO unable to get that information from my passport?
The passports of EEA citizens and their non-EEA family members are not stamped on arrival into the UK, whereas those of non-EEA citizens in the UK on routes under the Immigration Rules are.

That is why the latter can rely on the stamps in their passports to prove their residence in the UK while the former need to submit other proof.
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Re: Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by Martyna » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:32 pm

Thank you both for you answers! The only thing is Uni letters is all I have, tax exemption as well if it counts but I haven't been working at all - do you think that's ok?

I could also provide my tenancy agreements or utility bills I'm not sure it counts... Flight tickets won't be even accepted, or would they?

I'm also a bit confused about the Comprehensive Sickness Insurance - what counts as one? I assume I was insured by the university all that time, wasn't I? If not then would the private health insurance bought in another country (Poland) count? What if it was a travel insurance but covered "the costs of the majority of medical treatment in the UK"?

Thanks!

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Re: Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:47 am

Martyna wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:32 pm
Thank you both for you answers! The only thing is Uni letters is all I have, tax exemption as well if it counts but I haven't been working at all - do you think that's ok? Yes - there are no requirements that you have to be in employment, this is to prove residency primarily.

I could also provide my tenancy agreements or utility bills I'm not sure it counts... Flight tickets won't be even accepted, or would they? not required

I'm also a bit confused about the Comprehensive Sickness Insurance - what counts as one? I assume I was insured by the university all that time, wasn't I? You need to check whether this is documented. If not then would the private health insurance bought in another country (Poland) count? What if it was a travel insurance but covered "the costs of the majority of medical treatment in the UK"? As you were a full time student you will be asked about CSI (policies specifically sold for this purpose) - you need to explain what you had. I can't comment on policy requirements - though travel insurance is normally for short trips and would not cover you for five years I believe.

Thanks!
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Re: Naturalisation - residence requirements for an EEU national

Post by alterhase58 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:17 am

CSI references:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... n_v6.0.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... gov-uk.pdf

Note that to date we have not had reports of applications being denied due to issues regarding CSI. Clearly it was a requirement and if asked applicants need to respond as to whether they had or didn't have CSI, and if not why not, and also providing any evidence of other types of health cover they may have/had.
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AN - Documents Checklist

Post by Martyna » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:23 pm

Hi all,

I'm at the last stage of my application, just about to submit my documents. I am a little bit confused, however. My 'Documents Checklist' lists both:

1) Evidence that you have been in the UK lawfully for your 3 or 5 year qualifying residence period. This should be evidence that you were here as a worker, student, self-employed, self-sufficient, retired or incapacitated person
2) Proof of living in the UK for Miss xxxxxxx for 5 years if applying in your own right or 3 years if applying as the spouse of a British Citizen

--> I have been a full-time student since I arrived in the UK so was hoping to submit letters from educational establishments. Would these cover both of the points listed? I don't see a difference between the two but maybe I'm missing something...

Likewise, the checklist lists:
1) The passport issued by Poland for Miss XXXXXXXX
2) Miss XXXXXXXX's proof of Nationality

--> I am a Polish national so do you think my passport would cover both points here? Also, do I just scan the photo page of my passport?

I am also aware of the CSI requirement. I have, I believe, a comprehensive insurance for the whole 5 years period except for the first 3 months of my residence.
--> Do you think that's ok (having all but 3 months covered) or may this be an issue?

Finally, I would like to submit a cover letter but cannot figure out which document type that would fit into. The categories on the UKVCAS are:
- Residence in the UK - Finances - Proof of Business - Life Events - Medical Information - Sponsors/Employment - Proof of Identity/Travel History - Educational.

Thanks a lot for your help! Would really appreciate some!
Martyna

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