CAT B Financial requirements and loans

[reddevil93]

Hello,

I'm a British citizen and would like to obtain spouse visa for my wife who currently lives in Poland.

The wife:

Passport and nationality: Kazachstan
Current country: She lived in Poland for the past 7 years. She finished her undergraduate and masters degree in Poland therefore she doesn't need permit to work in Poland. She had 4 Polish temporary residence card (karta pobytu) in the past 7 years and the current one expired in July, 2021. She applied for the new card based on her employment and is currently awaiting one.

The question:
Can she apply for a British spouse visa while living in Poland and not having a Polish temporary residence card/karta pobytu (she has a stamp in her passport confirming she's awaiting one)?

Also, does a degree in English Philiology from Polish University satisfy English test requirements for the visa.

[TODMATT]

Hello,

I'm a British citizen and would like to obtain spouse visa for my wife who currently lives in Poland.

The wife:

Passport and nationality: Kazachstan
Current country: She lived in Poland for the past 7 years. She finished her undergraduate and masters degree in Poland therefore she doesn't need permit to work in Poland. She had 4 Polish temporary residence card (karta pobytu) in the past 7 years and the current one expired in July, 2021. She applied for the new card based on her employment and is currently awaiting one.

The question:
Can she apply for a British spouse visa while living in Poland and not having a Polish temporary residence card/karta pobytu (she has a stamp in her passport confirming she's awaiting one)?

Also, does a degree in English Philiology from Polish University satisfy English test requirements for the visa.

How long does it take before she receive her temporary residence renewal?

Was the degree taught in English?

[reddevil93]

Hello,

I'm a British citizen and would like to obtain spouse visa for my wife who currently lives in Poland.

The wife:

Passport and nationality: Kazachstan
Current country: She lived in Poland for the past 7 years. She finished her undergraduate and masters degree in Poland therefore she doesn't need permit to work in Poland. She had 4 Polish temporary residence card (karta pobytu) in the past 7 years and the current one expired in July, 2021. She applied for the new card based on her employment and is currently awaiting one.

The question:
Can she apply for a British spouse visa while living in Poland and not having a Polish temporary residence card/karta pobytu (she has a stamp in her passport confirming she's awaiting one)?

Also, does a degree in English Philiology from Polish University satisfy English test requirements for the visa.

How long does it take before she receive her temporary residence renewal?

Was the degree taught in English?

Could be few months, I wonder if she needs it to apply for the visa. After all she can work in Poland without the residence cardpurely because she finished stationary degree here.

I believe her degree was in English. What if it was taught in Polish?

[secret.simon]

I believe her degree was in English. What if it was taught in Polish?

If it was taught in Polish, she will need to take an approved English language test. It would probably be best if she does a B1 test directly.

Even if it was taught in English, the course would need to be validated by ECCTIS (the successor to NARIC) and the cost of the validation would cost the same as a B1 test (~£150).

As an aside, are you a solely British citizen or are you a dual British-EU citizen? And if the latter, did you acquire British citizenship by naturalisation? And if the former, did you live with your spouse in another EEA member-state before 31st December 2020?

[reddevil93]

I believe her degree was in English. What if it was taught in Polish?

If it was taught in Polish, she will need to take an approved English language test. It would probably be best if she does a B1 test directly.

Even if it was taught in English, the course would need to be validated by ECCTIS (the successor to NARIC) and the cost of the validation would cost the same as a B1 test (~£150).

As an aside, are you a solely British citizen or are you a dual British-EU citizen? And if the latter, did you acquire British citizenship by naturalisation? And if the former, did you live with your spouse in another EEA member-state before 31st December 2020?

Thank you so much for your answers, really appreciate it.

I'm dual, Naturalised in 2018. Also hold a Polish citizenship. I'm guessing you are referring to EU settlement scheme which is another alternative to spouse visa?

We haven't lived together as I was living in UK all the time while she lived in Poland.

If going down the spouse visa route, are we required to prove that we lived together?

Also, do you know if she requires her new temporary residence permit to be issued first before she can apply for the spouse visa.

[TODMATT]

I believe her degree was in English. What if it was taught in Polish?

If it was taught in Polish, she will need to take an approved English language test. It would probably be best if she does a B1 test directly.

Even if it was taught in English, the course would need to be validated by ECCTIS (the successor to NARIC) and the cost of the validation would cost the same as a B1 test (~£150).

As an aside, are you a solely British citizen or are you a dual British-EU citizen? And if the latter, did you acquire British citizenship by naturalisation? And if the former, did you live with your spouse in another EEA member-state before 31st December 2020?

Thank you so much for your answers, really appreciate it.

I'm dual, Naturalised in 2018. Also hold a Polish citizenship. I'm guessing you are referring to EU settlement scheme which is another alternative to spouse visa?

We haven't lived together as I was living in UK all the time while she lived in Poland.

If going down the spouse visa route, are we required to prove that we lived together?

Also, do you know if she requires her new temporary residence permit to be issued first before she can apply for the spouse visa.

Not a requirement but if you have previously lived together, it is a good evidence to show that your relationship is genuine and subsisting.

Regarding the temporary residence permit, there’s no need to rush into doing the application. Be on a safer side and allow extra time for the renewal to come then you guys can apply.

[reddevil93]

I believe her degree was in English. What if it was taught in Polish?

If it was taught in Polish, she will need to take an approved English language test. It would probably be best if she does a B1 test directly.

Even if it was taught in English, the course would need to be validated by ECCTIS (the successor to NARIC) and the cost of the validation would cost the same as a B1 test (~£150).

As an aside, are you a solely British citizen or are you a dual British-EU citizen? And if the latter, did you acquire British citizenship by naturalisation? And if the former, did you live with your spouse in another EEA member-state before 31st December 2020?

Thank you so much for your answers, really appreciate it.

I'm dual, Naturalised in 2018. Also hold a Polish citizenship. I'm guessing you are referring to EU settlement scheme which is another alternative to spouse visa?

We haven't lived together as I was living in UK all the time while she lived in Poland.

If going down the spouse visa route, are we required to prove that we lived together?

Also, do you know if she requires her new temporary residence permit to be issued first before she can apply for the spouse visa.

Not a requirement but if you have previously lived together, it is a good evidence to show that your relationship is genuine and subsisting.

Regarding the temporary residence permit, there’s no need to rush into doing the application. Be on a safer side and allow extra time for the renewal to come then you guys can apply.

Thank you.

I'm guessing that EU settlement route is not applicable here if we can't prove living together (renting contracts, joint bank statements)?

[secret.simon]

I'm guessing that EU settlement route is not applicable here if we can't prove living together (renting contracts, joint bank statements)?

The EU SS route depends on when you were married.

If the marriage existed (i.e. she was your family member) before 31st December 2020, she can apply under the EUSS.

If the two of you were married after that date, she needs to apply under the usual spousal route.

[reddevil93]

I'm guessing that EU settlement route is not applicable here if we can't prove living together (renting contracts, joint bank statements)?

The EU SS route depends on when you were married.

If the marriage existed (i.e. she was your family member) before 31st December 2020, she can apply under the EUSS.

If the two of you were married after that date, she needs to apply under the usual spousal route.

Thank you so much!

Would work visa for Kazachstan citizen living in Poland be also possible to get?

Could she go visit me in UK on the tourist visa and find a job while there within 6 months and then stay on a work visa?

[AmazonianX]

I'm guessing that EU settlement route is not applicable here if we can't prove living together (renting contracts, joint bank statements)?

The EU SS route depends on when you were married.

If the marriage existed (i.e. she was your family member) before 31st December 2020, she can apply under the EUSS.

If the two of you were married after that date, she needs to apply under the usual spousal route.

Thank you so much!

Would work visa for Kazachstan citizen living in Poland be also possible to get?

Could she go visit me in UK on the tourist visa and find a job while there within 6 months and then stay on a work visa?

Coming on visit visa and trying g to get work is abuse of the system. Even the visit visa applicatiob will be suspect considering she is married to a British citizen.

[reddevil93]

Good morning,

I have lived and worked in UK for past 14 years and recently moved to Poland where I intend to stay for next few months to help my wife with spouse visa application while being unemployed.

I know that I need to prove certain threshold of income when applying for my spouse's visa to UK.

The question:
When we are going to submit her spouse visa application I will be unemployed in UK and my latest payslips from UK would be from August 2021. Will I have to come back to UK before submitting her application, get employed and get few weeks of wages and submit that with the application.

Or, can I just stay with her in Poland without going back to UK for the sake of few wage slips.

I have a pernament UK address where we are going to live etc.

[reddevil93]

Hello,

I'm getting some conflicting information.
Me and my wife just got married in Poland, I'm British citizen and she has Kazak citizenship.

Is there a required time period before we can apply for her spouse visa? I have been told that it's 6 months.

We are not living together and have been Iiving separately for past two years. Only just got married when I moved to Poland for a couple of months to sort out the formalities.

[TODMATT]

Hello,

I'm getting some conflicting information.
Me and my wife just got married in Poland, I'm British citizen and she has Kazak citizenship.

Is there a required time period before we can apply for her spouse visa? I have been told that it's 6 months.

We are not living together and have been Iiving separately for past two years. Only just got married when I moved to Poland for a couple of months to sort out the formalities.

There's nothing as such.

[secret.simon]

I know that I need to prove certain threshold of income when applying for my spouse's visa to UK.

The question:
When we are going to submit her spouse visa application I will be unemployed in UK and my latest payslips from UK would be from August 2021. Will I have to come back to UK before submitting her application, get employed and get few weeks of wages and submit that with the application.

If you are applying from the UK, you will need 6 or 12 months of pay slips (depending on the regularity of payment) showing earnings more than £18,600.

If you are applying from abroad, you will need to prove at least 6 months of earnings paying more than £18,600 per annum from a job in your current country of residence AND a confirmed job offer in the UK paying more than £18,600.

Alternatively, you can show savings of £62,500, held by you in an easily accessible bank account for at least 6 months.

A few weeks wages will not cut it.

As you can see, moving with a non-UK spouse to the UK can be very challenging and demanding. Have you considered moving with her to another EEA member-state instead? It should be relatively pain-free, compared to moving to the UK.

can I just stay with her in Poland without going back to UK for the sake of few wage slips.

You are a Polish citizen. So presumably you can stay with her in Poland.

Is there a required time period before we can apply for her spouse visa?

No, you can apply immediately after your wedding. You may need to prove that the two of you are in a subsisting relationship. So keep copies of vacation photos together, screenshots of Whatsapp chats, etc.

[reddevil93]

I know that I need to prove certain threshold of income when applying for my spouse's visa to UK.

The question:
When we are going to submit her spouse visa application I will be unemployed in UK and my latest payslips from UK would be from August 2021. Will I have to come back to UK before submitting her application, get employed and get few weeks of wages and submit that with the application.

If you are applying from the UK, you will need 6 or 12 months of pay slips (depending on the regularity of payment) showing earnings more than £18,600.

If you are applying from abroad, you will need to prove at least 6 months of earnings paying more than £18,600 per annum from a job in your current country of residence AND a confirmed job offer in the UK paying more than £18,600.

Alternatively, you can show savings of £62,500, held by you in an easily accessible bank account for at least 6 months.

A few weeks wages will not cut it.

As you can see, moving with a non-UK spouse to the UK can be very challenging and demanding. Have you considered moving with her to another EEA member-state instead? It should be relatively pain-free, compared to moving to the UK.

can I just stay with her in Poland without going back to UK for the sake of few wage slips.

You are a Polish citizen. So presumably you can stay with her in Poland.

Is there a required time period before we can apply for her spouse visa?

No, you can apply immediately after your wedding. You may need to prove that the two of you are in a subsisting relationship. So keep copies of vacation photos together, screenshots of Whatsapp chats, etc.

Thank you so much.

In regards to 6/12 months payslips I have 12 months worth of wage slips with the last one being August 1st. If we are going to apply in November and there will be no wage slips between August and November, would that be a problem?

[TODMATT]

Could you provide more information about your current employment?

[CR001]

Could you provide more information about your current employment?

The OP has already stated that they are currently unemployed and living in Poland.

[TODMATT]

Could you provide more information about your current employment?

The OP has already stated that they are currently unemployed and living in Poland.

Thanks I know that but I am asking for clarification due to OP last comment "In regards to 6/12 months payslips I have 12 months worth of wage slips with the last one being August 1st. If we are going to apply in November and there will be no wage slips between August and November, would that be a problem?"

[reddevil93]

Could you provide more information about your current employment?

The OP has already stated that they are currently unemployed and living in Poland.

Thanks I know that but I am asking for clarification due to OP last comment "In regards to 6/12 months payslips I have 12 months worth of wage slips with the last one being August 1st. If we are going to apply in November and there will be no wage slips between August and November, would that be a problem?"

I took two months vacation to get married in Poland. My yearly income is circa 45k and that is reflected on tax statements in April.

The issue I have now is that we want to proceed with spouse visa in two months time but my last employment wage slips will be from August 2021.

So there will be a gap between August and November as I currently don't work.

I wonder if there were similar cases in the past or should I go back to UK work for 6 months consecutively and apply for spouse visa then.

[TODMATT]

Are you self employed? because in order to meet the financial requirement, you must have a source of income at the date of the application which meets the financial requirement and I still don't understand your employment circumstances.

[reddevil93]

Are you self employed? because in order to meet the financial requirement, you must have a source of income at the date of the application which meets the financial requirement and I still don't understand your employment circumstances.

I'm not self employed. I was paye employee for a blue chip company. Now I am unemployed.

[AmazonianX]

Are you self employed? because in order to meet the financial requirement, you must have a source of income at the date of the application which meets the financial requirement and I still don't understand your employment circumstances.

I'm not self employed. I was paye employee for a blue chip company. Now I am unemployed.

Is there any employment on the horizon for you?

[reddevil93]

Are you self employed? because in order to meet the financial requirement, you must have a source of income at the date of the application which meets the financial requirement and I still don't understand your employment circumstances.

I'm not self employed. I was paye employee for a blue chip company. Now I am unemployed.

Is there any employment on the horizon for you?

Yes of course, I can go back to work tomorrow and get employed again and intend to do so as soon as we apply for the visa.

[AmazonianX]

Are you self employed? because in order to meet the financial requirement, you must have a source of income at the date of the application which meets the financial requirement and I still don't understand your employment circumstances.

I'm not self employed. I was paye employee for a blue chip company. Now I am unemployed.

Is there any employment on the horizon for you?

Yes of course, I can go back to work tomorrow and get employed again and intend to do so as soon as we apply for the visa.

It is actually employment at the time of application that matters to you now. Be in employment.

[TODMATT]

If you are able to another job, your previous income could count under CAT B.

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