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Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by mooongothelegend » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:50 pm

Hello,

I would like to bring my fiance over to UK. She's pregnant and we want to marry ASAP, however the country that she currently lives in, makes it very hard for us to do so.

Since we cannot apply for spouse visa as we are not yet married, what are other options for brining my pregnant fiance over.

I'm aware of a fiance visa route but we haven't lived together for two years. Can two years living together requirement be bypassed?

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by manci » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:27 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:50 pm
what are other options for brining my pregnant fiance over.
Marriage visitor visa, see:
https://www.gov.uk/marriage-visa

Check pregnancy related rules for air travel.
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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by CR001 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:09 am

I'm aware of a fiance visa route but we haven't lived together for two years. Can two years living together requirement be bypassed?
The 6 month fiance visa does NOT require you to have loved together for 2 years.
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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by TODMATT » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:51 am

mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:50 pm
Hello,

I would like to bring my fiance over to UK. She's pregnant and we want to marry ASAP, however the country that she currently lives in, makes it very hard for us to do so.

Since we cannot apply for spouse visa as we are not yet married, what are other options for brining my pregnant fiance over.

I'm aware of a fiance visa route but we haven't lived together for two years. Can two years living together requirement be bypassed?
You just need to show that you have a genuine and subsisting relationship. Unmarried partner are the one who must have lived together for the period of 2 years and as mentioned above by CR001, fiancée visa does not.

You have carefully thought this process through. If you travel to the UK awhile your wife is Pregnant and she gave birth, you will be charged for the cost of the maternity.
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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by mooongothelegend » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:38 am

TODMATT wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:51 am
mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:50 pm
Hello,

I would like to bring my fiance over to UK. She's pregnant and we want to marry ASAP, however the country that she currently lives in, makes it very hard for us to do so.

Since we cannot apply for spouse visa as we are not yet married, what are other options for brining my pregnant fiance over.

I'm aware of a fiance visa route but we haven't lived together for two years. Can two years living together requirement be bypassed?
You just need to show that you have a genuine and subsisting relationship. Unmarried partner are the one who must have lived together for the period of 2 years and as mentioned above by CR001, fiancée visa does not.

You have carefully thought this process through. If you travel to the UK awhile your wife is Pregnant and she gave birth, you will be charged for the cost of the maternity.
If she gets fiance visa and we pay nhs surcharge would that not cover it?

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by vinny » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:46 am

I believe there is no IHS for a six-month fiancé(e) visa. Before she successfully switches to FLR(M), a NHS hospital may charge her 150% of NHS costs.
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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by mooongothelegend » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm

vinny wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:46 am
I believe there is no IHS for a six-month fiancé(e) visa. Before she successfully switches to FLR(M), a NHS hospital may charge her 150% of NHS costs.
Thank you.

I'm guessing that from applying for fiance visa to getting it, moving to uk, getting married and switching to spouse visa while in UK, we would be very lucky to get it all done in 9 months....

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by CR001 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:35 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm
vinny wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:46 am
I believe there is no IHS for a six-month fiancé(e) visa. Before she successfully switches to FLR(M), a NHS hospital may charge her 150% of NHS costs.
Thank you.

I'm guessing that from applying for fiance visa to getting it, moving to uk, getting married and switching to spouse visa while in UK, we would be very lucky to get it all done in 9 months....
Once in the UK on a fiancé visa and you get/are married, you have the option of paying £800 extra for a super priority visa when applying for a spouse visa, which is usually a decision within 24 hours after biometrics have been enrolled.

But yes, any pre-natal care while on a 6 month fiancé visa or any medical issues, would have to be paid for at 150% cost.
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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:58 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm
I'm guessing that from applying for fiance visa to getting it, moving to uk, getting married and switching to spouse visa while in UK, we would be very lucky to get it all done in 9 months....
She would have to marry and apply for the spouse visa before the 6 months end date of her fiance visa.

However until she is granted a spouse visa, her maternity care would be billed.



When you can start to use the NHS

You can start using the National Health Service (NHS) when both:

you’ve paid the healthcare surcharge (or are exempt from paying it)
your visa or immigration application is granted

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application




As said, the 6 month fiance visa does not allow her to purchase the Immigration Health Surcharge, to be able to use the NHS without paying.


You do not need to pay the surcharge or get an IHS reference number if you’re applying for a:

visitor visa
visa for 6 months or less from outside the UK

You will need to pay for any NHS care you get at the point you use it - unless it’s a service that’s free.

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigrati ... -needs-pay

Maternity care, birth and post natel care, is not a service that is free.

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by mooongothelegend » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:22 pm

JB007 wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:58 pm
mooongothelegend wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm
I'm guessing that from applying for fiance visa to getting it, moving to uk, getting married and switching to spouse visa while in UK, we would be very lucky to get it all done in 9 months....
She would have to marry and apply for the spouse visa before the 6 months end date of her fiance visa.

However until she is granted a spouse visa, her maternity care would be billed.



When you can start to use the NHS

You can start using the National Health Service (NHS) when both:

you’ve paid the healthcare surcharge (or are exempt from paying it)
your visa or immigration application is granted

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application




As said, the 6 month fiance visa does not allow her to purchase the Immigration Health Surcharge, to be able to use the NHS without paying.


You do not need to pay the surcharge or get an IHS reference number if you’re applying for a:

visitor visa
visa for 6 months or less from outside the UK

You will need to pay for any NHS care you get at the point you use it - unless it’s a service that’s free.

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigrati ... -needs-pay

Maternity care, birth and post natel care, is not a service that is free.
Thank you so much.

All of the above services would be covered on spouse visa/ while IHS if I understand correctly?

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:30 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:22 pm
JB007 wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:58 pm
mooongothelegend wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:31 pm
I'm guessing that from applying for fiance visa to getting it, moving to uk, getting married and switching to spouse visa while in UK, we would be very lucky to get it all done in 9 months....
She would have to marry and apply for the spouse visa before the 6 months end date of her fiance visa.

However until she is granted a spouse visa, her maternity care would be billed.



When you can start to use the NHS

You can start using the National Health Service (NHS) when both:

you’ve paid the healthcare surcharge (or are exempt from paying it)
your visa or immigration application is granted

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application




As said, the 6 month fiance visa does not allow her to purchase the Immigration Health Surcharge, to be able to use the NHS without paying.


You do not need to pay the surcharge or get an IHS reference number if you’re applying for a:

visitor visa
visa for 6 months or less from outside the UK

You will need to pay for any NHS care you get at the point you use it - unless it’s a service that’s free.

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigrati ... -needs-pay

Maternity care, birth and post natel care, is not a service that is free.
Thank you so much.

All of the above services would be covered on spouse visa/ while IHS if I understand correctly?
From that first link above, about being able to use the NHS on a valid spouse visa-


You’ll still need to pay for certain types of services, such as prescriptions, dental treatment, eye tests and assisted conception.

When you access healthcare in the UK, you may need to:

provide your biometric residence permit, if you have one
prove your status online using a share code, if you have a digital immigration status

https://www.gov.uk/healthcare-immigration-application


Basically, everything a British citizen who lives in the UK can have, except assisted conception.

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Re: Pregnant fiance - options to join me in UK (2 year requirement)

Post by JB007 » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:41 pm

And here is one of the links to show that your wife will be billed for her pregnancy, birth and after care, on a finace visa: a guidance for the Department of Health and Social care, undated 18 January 2021-

Family members of British citizens or settled persons
...
A non-UK national can also be given leave to enter the UK by the Home Office to marry or become the civil partner of a British citizen or settled person. They usually have a visa for 6 months during which time they must marry or register the civil partnership. They will be directly chargeable during this period unless an exemption applies.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... k#overview

As said, once granted a spouse visa, she can use the NHS.

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Fiance/spouse visa - payslips without accompanying letter

Post by mooongothelegend » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:15 am

Good morning,

For my previous employer I have 12 months of payslips and p45. Payslips have company logo etc on them. If I supply just payslips, p45 and bank statements, would that be sufficient?

I have read in guidelines that letter on company paper is required, confirming the period of time that I worked there and that payslips are genuine. However, payroll isn't really helpful and they might not issue it for me.

All this will be for my previous job.

I will be applying under cat B (less than 6 months with new employer)

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Re: Fiance/spouse visa - payslips without accompanying letter

Post by AmazonianX » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:12 am

mooongothelegend wrote:
Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:15 am
Good morning,

For my previous employer I have 12 months of payslips and p45. Payslips have company logo etc on them. If I supply just payslips, p45 and bank statements, would that be sufficient?

I have read in guidelines that letter on company paper is required, confirming the period of time that I worked there and that payslips are genuine. However, payroll isn't really helpful and they might not issue it for me.

All this will be for my previous job.

I will be applying under cat B (less than 6 months with new employer)

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Since you are no more with the organisation, you do not require a letter from them. The one that matters is the letter from your current employer.

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UK bank statements - online generated pdf

Post by mooongothelegend » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:09 am

Good morning,

If I login into my HSBC account and generate PDF copies online, would this be eligible for submission with my payslip for fiance visa?

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Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:33 am

Good morning,

I want to include documents such as: VAT receipts, train tickets and joint bank statements (All in Polish) as part of cohabitation evidence.

Would all of these documents have to be translated by a qualified translator into English?

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Re: UK bank statements - online generated pdf

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:52 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:09 am
Good morning,

If I login into my HSBC account and generate PDF copies online, would this be eligible for submission with my payslip for fiance visa?

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If the generated statements is of semblance to what you would normally receive as statement from the bank then its alright for use.

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:54 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:33 am
Good morning,

I want to include documents such as: VAT receipts, train tickets and joint bank statements (All in Polish) as part of cohabitation evidence.

Would all of these documents have to be translated by a qualified translator into English? Yes or how else would the CW make a head of what is in front of them?

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by TODMATT » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:05 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:33 am
Good morning,

I want to include documents such as: VAT receipts, train tickets and joint bank statements (All in Polish) as part of cohabitation evidence.

Would all of these documents have to be translated by a qualified translator into English?
I would translate them if they are not in English. You don’t need to translate everything but you can translate the first page should suffice.

Please note these are not mandatory but they are strong evidence to show your relationship is genuine and subsisting since you are applying for fiancée visa.
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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am

TODMATT wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:05 pm
mooongothelegend wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:33 am
Good morning,

I want to include documents such as: VAT receipts, train tickets and joint bank statements (All in Polish) as part of cohabitation evidence.

Would all of these documents have to be translated by a qualified translator into English?
I would translate them if they are not in English. You don’t need to translate everything but you can translate the first page should suffice.

Please note these are not mandatory but they are strong evidence to show your relationship is genuine and subsisting since you are applying for fiancée visa.

Thank you.

What about chat logs like messenger? We sometimes write in English but mostly they are in Polish.

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:48 pm

Good evening,

Is proof of clean criminal record required for applicants from Poland via spouse/fiance visa?

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:33 am

mooongothelegend wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:48 pm
Good evening,

Is proof of clean criminal record required for applicants from Poland via spouse/fiance visa?
That is when applicant has no convictions and never been in trouble with law.

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:05 pm

Good morning,

For the purposes of UK fiance/spouse visa we have done LanguageCert Entry level Certificate in ESOL International (Entry 3) (Speaking & Listening) (Achiever B1).

However, I just watched a video on xxxxxx and they mention UKVA number being essential on all certificates.

Our certificate does not have that number

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by AmazonianX » Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:24 pm

mooongothelegend wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:05 pm
Good morning,

For the purposes of UK fiance/spouse visa we have done LanguageCert Entry level Certificate in ESOL International (Entry 3) (Speaking & Listening) (Achiever B1).

However, I just watched a video on xxxxxx and they mention UKVA number being essential on all certificates.

Our certificate does not have that number
There is a list of acceptable exams and provider by HO, was it one of such you did?
Yes, certificates will contain a UER which is what you enter on the application and HO is able to verify with that.
Are you going for fiancée or spouse visa?

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Re: Cohabitation evidence - Polish vat receipts and joint bank statements

Post by mooongothelegend » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:58 pm

AmazonianX wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 4:24 pm
mooongothelegend wrote:
Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:05 pm
Good morning,

For the purposes of UK fiance/spouse visa we have done LanguageCert Entry level Certificate in ESOL International (Entry 3) (Speaking & Listening) (Achiever B1).

However, I just watched a video on xxxxxx and they mention UKVA number being essential on all certificates.

Our certificate does not have that number
There is a list of acceptable exams and provider by HO, was it one of such you did?
Yes, certificates will contain a UER which is what you enter on the application and HO is able to verify with that.
Are you going for fiancée or spouse visa?
Fiance but we are pending court decision which could allow us to get married in the meantime. Hopefully we will be able to switch from fiance to spouse application if that happens. If no court ruling before fiance visa decision then we will get married in UK.

I did extensive research before booking the exam and yes this is supposedly the correct one. Just worried there is no UKVI number on the certificate. However, we received supplementary email with the URN number that you have mentioned. Email also mentiones that URN cannot be used by UKVI untill the exam is passed.

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