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A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:44 pm

Hi there

My partner is applying for british citizenship after getting his settled status in November 2020.

Our questions regarding the documents
- Does the ‘Degree Supplement’ work as a degree certification? (he studied his bachelors in the UK, all he has as documentation is the degree supplement document)
- In the proof of nationality documents it asks for UK permanent residence card. He has a settled status (also known as ‘indefinite leave to remain under the EU Settlement Scheme’), does he still need to get a UK permanent resident card?
- It states ‘If you are an EEA National, you need to include letters from employers, educational establishments or other government departments, indicating your presence in the UK during the relevant 3- or 5-year period.’ : What exactly does he need to send here? He changed his employers 3 times since he's been in the UK for the past 6 years.

- How does he prove that he is free from immigration time restrictions as he has a European passport and no residence card?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:53 pm

gezik wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:44 pm
Hi there

My partner is applying for british citizenship after getting his settled status in November 2020.

Our questions regarding the documents
- Does the ‘Degree Supplement’ work as a degree certification? (he studied his bachelors in the UK, all he has as documentation is the degree supplement document) Not familiar with this document - if BA or BSc degree you normally get a degree certificate from the UK university?
- In the proof of nationality documents it asks for UK permanent residence card. He has a settled status (also known as ‘indefinite leave to remain under the EU Settlement Scheme’), does he still need to get a UK permanent resident card?
Proof is passport - you don't need a PR card - settled status is suffcient, attach EUSS email.
- It states ‘If you are an EEA National, you need to include letters from employers, educational establishments or other government departments, indicating your presence in the UK during the relevant 3- or 5-year period.’ : What exactly does he need to send here? He changed his employers 3 times since he's been in the UK for the past 6 years. P60 or Council Tax bills for each year would be sufficient.

- How does he prove that he is free from immigration time restrictions as he has a European passport and no residence card? It's the EU Settled status.
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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:51 pm

thanks very much

Also have 2 questions asked

"Did you meet the knowledge of English requirement as part of an indefinite leave application made on or after 28 October 2013?" they don't ask about english requirement for EUSS so the answer would be no to this right?

"Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?" Would the answer be yes or no - would EUSS count as immigration application?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:52 pm

sorry one more question absences from the uk is only for whole days spent outside the uk right? not the full days? although in the application we put departure and arrival dates - they don't count towards the 90 day in the last 12 months allowance?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:03 pm

gezik wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:51 pm
thanks very much

Also have 2 questions asked

"Did you meet the knowledge of English requirement as part of an indefinite leave application made on or after 28 October 2013?" they don't ask about english requirement for EUSS so the answer would be no to this right?Correct NO - EUSS doesn't require English test.

"Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?" Would the answer be yes or no - would EUSS count as immigration application? Yes -it an application under UK Immigration.
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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jan 25, 2022 6:04 pm

gezik wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:52 pm
sorry one more question absences from the uk is only for whole days spent outside the uk right? not the full days? although in the application we put departure and arrival dates - they don't count towards the 90 day in the last 12 months allowance?
Don't count travel days out/back to the UK - applies to the whole of the residency period.
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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:47 am

thank you, just to clarify on the documents required to prove his presence in the uk

He applied for EUSS October 2020 based on 5 years in the UK, now applying for citizenship January 2022 so do the documents have to show he’s been in the UK since January 2017 or October 2015?

We have the following documents;
  • -P60 from April 2016 for 2015-2016
    -Paper slip from employer July 2016
    -Paper slip from employer September 2016
    -HMRC national insurance number letter March 2017
    -Paper payslips from employer June2017-October 2017
    -1 council tax letter from September 2018
    -1 council tax letter from February 2019
    -1 council tax for June 2021
    -1 council tax for August 2021
Is this list ok? Do we need a letter from current employer that he’s been working with since 2017? If so what should be on the letter?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by britalian89 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:01 pm

gezik wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:47 am
thank you, just to clarify on the documents required to prove his presence in the uk

He applied for EUSS October 2020 based on 5 years in the UK, now applying for citizenship January 2022 so do the documents have to show he’s been in the UK since January 2017 or October 2015?

We have the following documents;
  • -P60 from April 2016 for 2015-2016 -> not useful
    -Paper slip from employer July 2016 - not useful
    -Paper slip from employer September 2016 -> not useful
    -HMRC national insurance number letter March 2017 -> useful
    -Paper payslips from employer June2017-October 2017 -> useful
    -1 council tax letter from September 2018 -> useful
    -1 council tax letter from February 2019 -> useful
    -1 council tax for June 2021 -> useful
    -1 council tax for August 2021 -> useful
Is this list ok? Do we need a letter from current employer that he’s been working with since 2017? If so what should be on the letter?
When applying for citizenship, he needs to prove he was in the UK 5 years before the application date so documents should prove he was in the country from Jan 17 onwards. They're not gonna need docs before Jan 2017 since that wouldn't fall into the qualifying period. I would suggest getting letters from his employers or a letter from HMRC stating history of employment in the last 5 years, both of which are pretty easy to get.

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:06 pm

also he has had 2 different National Insurance Numbers because his name was incorrect. He has had a new NI number since April 2017. When he had to apply for EUSS his current NI number would show that he's only been in the UK since April 2017 so he had to prove his presence in the UK for between 2015 and 2016. Would it be helpful to add a covering letter explaining this situation for the citizdenship application?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:45 pm

he was unemployed in the UK for a brief time between January 2017 an April 2017. We have a letter from HMRC from March 2017 but nothing from January 2017... would that be an issue? in that case should be provide the September 2016 payslip?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by britalian89 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:31 pm

the only issue i can think of is to make sure he was covered by Comprehensive Sickness Insurance (CSI) while he was unemployed. A lot of applications are rejected because of missing CSI. If he didnt have it, probably better to wait and apply 5 years after his new employment (so April 2022), when he doesnt have gaps? At least my suggestion...

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by gezik » Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:52 pm

ah thanks for mentioning about the CSI but that wasn't an issue when we got his EUSS? he just had 3 months out of job but in that time he just used his savings... why would it be an issue?

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Re: A couple of questions EU settled>citizenship

Post by alterhase58 » Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:07 pm

gezik wrote:
Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:52 pm
ah thanks for mentioning about the CSI but that wasn't an issue when we got his EUSS? he just had 3 months out of job but in that time he just used his savings... why would it be an issue?
Job-seeking periods of up to six months wouldn't have required CSI.
And if it was whilst holding EUSS it wouldn't be required anyway - not for EUSS.
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