Naturalisation Form Questions

[mukesh_bhatt9]

can someone please advise on below naturalisation form questions:

1. "Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?"
Do I need to include all my previous visa like Visit/Business travel before I migrated to UK in 2010 for work?

2. Name in which you made the previous application?

Do I need to put my name or its asking visa category name?

3. I've got 2 PCN both of which I paid within 14 days. One of them is parking ticket and other is taking right turn on a no right turn road. Do I need to disclose them? if yes, where and how?

4. I need to travel in last week of July. if I submit my application now, do we get Biometric appointment within next 30 days?

Please advise. thanks a lot. regards

[Ticktack]

can someone please advise on below naturalisation form questions:

1. "Have you made any previous UK immigration applications in the UK or abroad?"
Do I need to include all my previous visa like Visit/Business travel before I migrated to UK in 2010 for work? Those are non-immigrant visas. Anything that allows you to spend more than 6 months here is an immigrant visa.

2. Name in which you made the previous application? Full names used. Women change names from original to married names. Or you might have gone to court and changed your names.

Do I need to put my name or its asking visa category name?

3. I've got 2 PCN both of which I paid within 14 days. One of them is parking ticket and other is taking right turn on a no right turn road. Do I need to disclose them? if yes, where and how? If nay was issued by the police, then you need to declare. If it was just parking council officers, then no need.

4. I need to travel in last week of July. if I submit my application now, do we get Biometric appointment within next 30 days? Only the system would tell you that. You might want to pay for the paid for ones in that case.

Please advise. thanks a lot. regards

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Thanks a lot. Very helpful. Other questions I have are:

1.On gov.uk website at one place, it says, “You must apply separately for your children.” Whereas on other page, it says “In your application, you can also include family members. Each person included in the application will be assessed against the statutory requirements in their own right.”

It’s confusing to me.

2. Since I’ll be applying for all 4 of us, me, spouse and 2 children age 13 and 15 altogether as we got our 10 yr ILR together as well last year.
I hope we can apply using the online link below ?
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... 1656007155

Kindly help clarify. Thanks a lot again.

[alterhase58]

Using the online application (the link you have) at the end of adult 1 application add adult 2, for AN Naturalisation, then child 1 and child 2, for the children the system will adjust the application to MN1 Registration. It is correct that all applicants will be assessed individually against the requirements. Note that citizenship applications are not under immigration rules, they have their own basis in law and separate requirements.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Thanks. So using same link, my and spouse application will be considered under AN and for kids it will be MN1. Correct? Thanks

[alterhase58]

Thanks. So using same link, my and spouse application will be considered under AN and for kids it will be MN1. Correct? Thanks

Correct - naturalisation is for adults 18+, registration for under 18s.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

thanks. But AN form should be used by someone else as below.

"Form AN
Application for naturalisation as a British citizen
To be used by people in the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and British
overseas territories, and by people who live elsewhere and want to apply
by post."

Since I'm applying online, Should I say yes or no to question below:

Are either of the parents of the child (as stated in this application) applying for naturalisation as a British citizen on an AN form?

[alterhase58]

thanks. But AN form should be used by someone else as below.

"Form AN
Application for naturalisation as a British citizen
To be used by people in the Channel Islands, Isle of Man and British
overseas territories, and by people who live elsewhere and want to apply
by post."
This is for the paper application only - if you apply from within the UK you are expected to use online AN application.

Since I'm applying online, Should I say yes or no to question below: Yes - clearly this is the case ...

Are either of the parents of the child (as stated in this application) applying for naturalisation as a British citizen on an AN form?

[mukesh_bhatt9]

thanks again. probably the last one

-can My referees be the refrees for my family members too? I'm using a company director - as referee on professional side and I'm answering this question. would this suffice?

Q. How does the referee know the applicant?

A. Knows personally as main applicant's son

[alterhase58]

thanks again. probably the last one

-can My referees be the refrees for my family members too? I'm using a company director - as referee on professional side and I'm answering this question. would this suffice? For the adults yes - for children though it is stated: "One referee should be a professional who has engaged with the child in a professional capacity, such as a teacher, health visitor, social worker or minister of religion." If you are unable to find those referees (or they are unwilling) for children you can use your own ones and include a note that you had difficulties getting child professional referees. Caseworkers are aware that applicants sometimes have problems finding the appropriate referees for children.

Q. How does the referee know the applicant?

A. Knows personally as main applicant's son
Perhaps "Family friend" or "Father's colleague" - note that the applications may not all be processed by one caseworker so referring to another applicant may not be clear.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

thanks a lot. we will do this accordingly. much appreciated. regards

mukesh

[mukesh_bhatt9]

could I please check with someone - what dates the appointment for biometrics (naturalisation) are currently available? Not sure if I can get block my appointment before I finish my online application? I need to fly on 25th July so thought I can finish my application now but I want to ensure dates are available free or additional cost. please suggest. thanks

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Do I have to return my BRP immediately after the approval email is received or after the oath ceremony is complete?

[CR001]

After the ceremony. You are only British once the ceremony is complete.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Thanks. In our case of 4 family members, can we not apply for parents naturalisation only for now? After we become British citizen, children won’t need to be naturalised and thus would apply for British passport directly? This will save the cost.
Please guide

[alterhase58]

Thanks. In our case of 4 family members, can we not apply for parents naturalisation only for now? After we become British citizen, children won’t need to be naturalised and thus would apply for British passport directly? This will save the cost.
Please guide

It doesn't work like this .... British citizenship isn't conferred onto children retrospectively.
Only children you may have after becoming British will be British themselves.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Thank you. Regarding referral, I’ve sent the scanned copy of declaration form (with photo and name) to my referee to sign , scan again and return it. Would this be acceptable? Please advise.

[alterhase58]

Thank you. Regarding referral, I’ve sent the scanned copy of declaration form (with photo and name) to my referee to sign , scan again and return it. Would this be acceptable? Please advise.

I think that's what many people do as it's uploaded anyway.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Thanks for quick response. After unloading the signed referral form, do we need to submit the signed forms to UKVCAS at the time of biometric ? I guess yes, otherwise who/how will someone read the name/DOB written opposite the picture on the declaration form?

[alterhase58]

Thanks for quick response. After unloading the signed referral form, do we need to submit the signed forms to UKVCAS at the time of biometric ? I guess yes, otherwise who/how will someone read the name/DOB written opposite the picture on the declaration form?

No - the biometrics appointment is for the biometrics only. UKVCAS just collect the biometrics and ensure documents have been loaded. Only UKVI nationality caseworkers will check your referee documents against their requirements.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

I have managed to get the school teacher as referee for my 12 year old son. However teacher can only provide school address instead of her personal home address. Would this be acceptable to Home office? My only concern is it makes the next question “have they lived at this address over 3 years?” Incorrect.

Please can you advise? Thanks

[mukesh_bhatt9]

Can someone please advise on school address question? Teacher has provided all information
except home address. She gave the school address though. Can I use school address as address lived for 3 years ?

[Ticktack]

Can someone please advise on school address question? Teacher has provided all information
except home address. She gave the school address though. Can I use school address as address lived for 3 years ?

Not sure the HO is really fussy about kids. Yes, it does make the next part of the question tricky as you rightly mentioned. Guess you can ask the teacher if he/she has been at the school for 3 years.
Teacher clearly doesn't trust you with his/her home address which is understandable. You seem to be at an impasse!

My advise would be to give it a go. If the HO don't like it, they'd ask you to provide another referee. So start looking for a backup referee to be on standby. Application can't be refused on that.

[mukesh_bhatt9]

thanks for the advise. Actually my first refree for child is also a professional (director/CEO of a company) who I'm using as professional referee for my and spouse's referee. so infact for child, we will have two professionals. so should be fine?

[AmazonianX]

thanks for the advise. Actually my first refree for child is also a professional (director/CEO of a company) who I'm using as professional referee for my and spouse's referee. so infact for child, we will have two professionals. so should be fine? Not a problem