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Advice on british citizen application

Post by MrChris » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:50 pm

Greetings,

I would like to inquire whether it is possible for me to apply for British citizenship immediately after receiving my ILR, or if I need to wait for 12 months. Here is a brief summary of my history: I have been residing in the UK since I was 12 years old(illegally), and in 2015, I obtained a visa through my son. I then got married in 2016, which led to me moving to a spouse visa. Recently, I have been granted ILR, and I would like to know if I can proceed with my British citizenship application or if I need to wait for 12 months.

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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:57 pm

If your spouse is British, then you do not need to wait 5 months provided you meet the requirements to apply based on 3 years residence.

You also need to meet the Good Character requirement, link below, page 45

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by Ticktack » Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:59 pm

MrChris wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:50 pm
Greetings,

I would like to inquire whether it is possible for me to apply for British citizenship immediately after receiving my ILR, or if I need to wait for 12 months. Here is a brief summary of my history: I have been residing in the UK since I was 12 years old(illegally), and in 2015, I obtained a visa through my son. I then got married in 2016, which led to me moving to a spouse visa. Recently, I have been granted ILR, and I would like to know if I can proceed with my British citizenship application or if I need to wait for 12 months.
You might need to wait till 2025. Applying immediately would have worked for you as a spouse of a British citizen, if you didn't have the overstay on your records.

You most possibly wouldn't pass the good character test until you have 10 years clean immigration history.

In your case, 10 years ago you were breaking the rules.

Someone else might have a different opinion. But that's my view on it.
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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by MrChris » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:04 pm

Thank you for your prompt reply.

To confirm, I have never engaged in any criminal activity, and my spouse is a British citizen by birth.

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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by CR001 » Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:06 pm

MrChris wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:04 pm
Thank you for your prompt reply.

To confirm, I have never engaged in any criminal activity, and my spouse is a British citizen by birth.
It is about having 10 years legal residence and not being in breach of the immigration rules. Your spouse being British is irrelevant to this.
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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by Ticktack » Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:08 pm

MrChris wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:04 pm
Thank you for your prompt reply.

To confirm, I have never engaged in any criminal activity, and my spouse is a British citizen by birth.
Lawful residence
An immigration breach relating to lawful residence includes overstaying, illegal entry and absconding.

Prior to 28 June 2022, immigration breaches in the 5-year period before a citizenship application were normally a reason for refusal of citizenship on the grounds of not meeting the lawful residence requirement set out in section 4 and section 6 (read with paragraphs 1 and 2 of Schedule 1) of the British Nationality Act (BNA) 1981. If the breach was in the 10-year period before a citizenship application, it was normally grounds for refusal of citizenship on the basis of not meeting the good character requirement.

Schedule 1 of the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 (NABA 2022) amended the requirements for naturalisation and registration for British citizenship under sections 4(2), 6(1) and 6(2) of the BNA 1981, so that a person can be treated as meeting the lawful residence requirement during the qualifying period without further enquiry where they hold indefinite leave to enter or remain in the UK. This change commenced on 28 June 2022.

This change does not extend to applications to naturalise as a British overseas territory citizen.

To align with changes to the qualifying period, where a person has committed immigration breaches relating to:

illegal entry

absconding

overstaying

may be disregarded when assessing good character during the 10-year period prior to the application, but only where all of the following factors apply:

the person is applying for naturalisation as a British citizen, or registration as a British citizen under s.4(2), 6(1) or 6(2) of the BNA 1981 after 28 June 2022

that person holds indefinite leave to enter or remain (ILE or ILR, also known as settlement) in the UK

no concerns (for example, regarding the person’s character) have arisen since the grant of settlement which might cast doubt on the decision

Therefore, applications where it remains appropriate to consider immigration breaches relating to lawful residence, alongside other good character factors, may include but are not limited to:

where historic information has come to light which, had it been known at the time of granting settlement, may have led to refusal

where something occurred after the grant of settlement to indicate revocation of that status may be appropriate

applications to naturalise as a British overseas territory citizen

Immigration breaches that do not relate to lawful residence (for example working in breach of conditions, hiring illegal workers, or failure to observe reporting requirements) must still be considered.

See Naturalisation as British citizen by discretion

Overstaying
Where you are not disregarding immigration breaches relating to lawful residence, if a person has previously overstayed permission to enter or stay in the UK, it will normally be appropriate to refuse the application for citizenship, unless it is the sole adverse factor weighing against the person’s good character; and either:

the person’s application for leave to remain was made on or after 24 November 2016, and the application did not fall for refusal on the grounds of overstaying because an exception under paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules applied

the period without leave was not the fault of the applicant, for example where it arose from a Home Office decision to refuse which is subsequently withdrawn or quashed or which the courts have required the Home Office to reconsider

For information on dealing with breaches of conditions see liability to administrative removal.
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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by L0ndoner44 » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:09 pm

I was under the impression that the recent rule changes suggests that if the only thing that affects your character is overstaying and nothing else then they will not use the overstaying against you and you should be able to get citizenship? Or did I get this wrong?

CR001 wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:06 pm
MrChris wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:04 pm
Thank you for your prompt reply.

To confirm, I have never engaged in any criminal activity, and my spouse is a British citizen by birth.
It is about having 10 years legal residence and not being in breach of the immigration rules. Your spouse being British is irrelevant to this.

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Re: Advice on british citizen application

Post by Ticktack » Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:40 pm

L0ndoner44 wrote:
Thu Mar 02, 2023 3:09 pm
I was under the impression that the recent rule changes suggests that if the only thing that affects your character is overstaying and nothing else then they will not use the overstaying against you and you should be able to get citizenship? Or did I get this wrong?

CR001 wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:06 pm
MrChris wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:04 pm
Thank you for your prompt reply.

To confirm, I have never engaged in any criminal activity, and my spouse is a British citizen by birth.
It is about having 10 years legal residence and not being in breach of the immigration rules. Your spouse being British is irrelevant to this.
OP has also been here since 12 years old. Not sure what OP's age is now. How has OP been surviving? Has there been periods of working illegally? There could easily be mitigating circumstances that might not make the case as straightforward as that.
Except OP is ready to gamble with money to find out if all is well.
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