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FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:29 pm

Hi all

the initial BRP of 2.5 years due to expire on 8 July 2023, so the questions are:

1) do we have to pay for the biometrics again and partner has to go in person? why so if those biometrics are usually valid for 10 years :((

2) English language - I read in the guidance that there is to provide new proof of language level (page 12 of 29 of the guidance). But the application still asks about the awarding body and reference no. I doubt it'd still be available for online checking. Still providing the same info even if expired, right?

3) how much will the whole thing cost?
a) the application of circa 1,000
b) the NHS surcharge (another grand)
c) the biometrics appointment, again? and how much?

thanks for spending time reading this question and double thanks if you could answer :D

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by CR001 » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:34 pm

1. Where do you read biometrics at valid for 10 years? Your partner has to enroll biometrics again.

2. What level was used for the initial visa? A1, A2 or B1, etc?

3. Visa fee is £1048 and IHS is £1560, all clearly stated on the ukvi website. Biometrics appointment cost varies.
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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:51 pm

Hey thanks for the response.

1) all the countries (Canada for instance) that take biometrics like pics and especially fingerprints have a 10 year validity period as your fingerprints don’t ever change anyway. So ridiculous to keep requesting it. Money makers.

Also, she was able to use the IDV UKVCAS app last time to reuse her biometrics. I read somewhere that since Sep 2020 this is no longer available ((

2) C1 is her old certificate

3) yeah, remembered the cost smth like that. Insane. Next time they’ll split the flr M into 5 extensions to make more money.

Thanks again for the answers!

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by CR001 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:55 pm

1. This isn't canada. Whereas finger prints rarely change, physical features do, hence a new photo each time.

IDV app is still available if eligible, but if it was used the last time, she will likely require an appointment now.

2. An old test can be used if it was used initially for the visa.
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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Got you. Thanks.

Shame re biometrics :(

Final question - if so it happens that we apply 8 weeks before expiry of BRP and they issue it sooner, will we have to reapply again? So would you advise keeping it as late as possible to apply for an extension?

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Ticktack » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:46 pm

Lawgic wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:22 pm
Got you. Thanks.

Shame re biometrics :(

Final question - if so it happens that we apply 8 weeks before expiry of BRP and they issue it sooner, will we have to reapply again? So would you advise keeping it as late as possible to apply for an extension?
You can apply anytime up until the last day of BRP expiration. However, if you apply too soon, you could end up with a shortfall after the extension.

As it's a spouse visa. Apply 28 days short of 30 months from initial date of "entry" into the UK (at the minimum).
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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:40 pm

As she switched from a work visa, I presume her 5 years start from the date of issue of the BRP based on marriage, even though she was already in the country and switching categories?

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:50 am

Lawgic wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:40 pm
As she switched from a work visa, I presume her 5 years start from the date of issue of the BRP based on marriage, even though she was already in the country and switching categories?
Correct, when switched clock resets except for ILR LR that accepts or combines all routes.

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by vinny » Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:38 am

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Correct, when switched clock resets except for ILR LR that accepts or combines all routes.
More restricted from 13 April.
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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:03 am

@AmazonianX

are you sure that work visa can be combined with the spouse visa? I read Appendix FM section E-ILRP 1.3 and it says that you must spend 60 months in the UK as a partner or at least 120 months under other routes combined.

Could you elaborate where you got your info from, pls

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:13 am

vinny wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 5:38 am
AmazonianX wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:50 am

Correct, when switched clock resets except for ILR LR that accepts or combines all routes.
More restricted from 13 April.

hey and thanks for your time!

Is there any way that her Tier 2 General could be combined with Tier 2 partner visa? Kind of would be great as it'd save us 1.5-2 years then :oops: :roll:

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by AmazonianX » Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:43 am

Lawgic wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:03 am
@AmazonianX

are you sure that work visa can be combined with the spouse visa? I read Appendix FM section E-ILRP 1.3 and it says that you must spend 60 months in the UK as a partner or at least 120 months under other routes combined.

Could you elaborate where you got your info from, pls
Did you read the bit "except for ILR LR that accepts or combines all routes"

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:34 am

AmazonianX wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:43 am
Lawgic wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:03 am
@AmazonianX

are you sure that work visa can be combined with the spouse visa? I read Appendix FM section E-ILRP 1.3 and it says that you must spend 60 months in the UK as a partner or at least 120 months under other routes combined.

Could you elaborate where you got your info from, pls
Did you read the bit "except for ILR LR that accepts or combines all routes"


I didn't get what you meant and that's why I asked. If it's irrelevant, why would you write this in the family thread if it's inapplicable. ok, no worries. so still a no then. shame.

thanks for your time! will have to wait full 5 years then. But first - extension, then the rest.

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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:08 am

Relevant because you asked about combining different visa categories. Only 10 years long residence ilr allows combining different visas, which is what was advised for clarity.

Many people posting have had refusals thinking all visas can be used for 5 years ILR and believe it is simply 5 years residence regardless of visa category.
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Re: FLR (M) extension - BIOMETRICS AGAIN?

Post by Lawgic » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:47 am

CR001 wrote:
Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:08 am
Relevant because you asked about combining different visa categories. Only 10 years long residence ilr allows combining different visas, which is what was advised for clarity.

Many people posting have had refusals thinking all visas can be used for 5 years ILR and believe it is simply 5 years residence regardless of visa category.

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FLR (M) extension - how to submit documents?

Post by Lawgic » Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:57 pm

Hi again,

Last time we applied for partner visa, we used IDV UKVCAS app to submit documents.

Now that this is not on the table, how is the process to submit documents work? via post? do we need to submit spouse's passport as well?

So step by step:

1) apply online
2) pay the fees (up to GBP 2k)
3) submit documents (this is the bit which is complicated compared to the app :( as don't want to send the passport)
4) book and attend biometrics appointment

And the questions about my former spouse, submission of the divorce decree etc? Do I have to submit it again? Or former submission is enough?

In essence, they should only ask to see proof of living together and financial requirements, not the same old questions about where we met etc.

Confused :cry:

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Re: FLR (M) extension - how to submit documents?

Post by CR001 » Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:04 pm

Lawgic wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:57 pm
Hi again,

Last time we applied for partner visa, we used IDV UKVCAS app to submit documents.

Now that this is not on the table, how is the process to submit documents work? via post? do we need to submit spouse's passport as well?

So step by step:

1) apply online
2) pay the fees (up to GBP 2k)
3) submit documents (this is the bit which is complicated compared to the app :( as don't want to send the passport)
4) book and attend biometrics appointment

And the questions about my former spouse, submission of the divorce decree etc? Do I have to submit it again? Or former submission is enough?

In essence, they should only ask to see proof of living together and financial requirements, not the same old questions about where we met etc.

Confused :cry:
Topics Merged. Please keep all questions regarding the same application in ONE topic, this one.

3. You submit digitally online through UKCVAS portal. No originals are sent. You must upload the documents BEFORE your biometric appointment.

You should submit the divorce decree if it is asked for.
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Re: FLR (M) extension - how to submit documents?

Post by Lawgic » Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:12 pm

Thank you! didn't know I can merge topics. How do I do that and how do I change subjects within?

Another question which is pending: I saw in the Timeline that people apply and get decisions almost within a week.

Someone suggested to apply within 28 days of expiry. But if the decision is made within 10 days, there is still a shortfall of 18 days to 5 years... confusing

Does it mean that at the ILR stage we would just apply 28 days before 5 years so this shortfall isn't critical?

Thank you again!

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Re: FLR (M) extension - how to submit documents?

Post by Lawgic » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:14 pm

say, initial leave was granted on 08.01.2021, the BRP expires on 08.07.2023.

so in theory, one could apply any time after 1-2 June and even if the BRP is sent back by 13.06.2023, there is a 28 day shortfall that may be made up by applying for ILR by 10.12.2025?

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Super Priority Service - what are the advantages?

Post by Lawgic » Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:13 pm

hi

With regards to the FLR M extension, I see that the turnaround times are around 1-2 weeks (in the Timeline Thread).

The question is, even if you submit the application via this posh £800 service for a "next day" decision, you still need to submit the biometrics, right? And that will depend on the availability of the centres to allow you to submit those biometrics.

The next working day does not start to tick until after the biometrics submission, so it is not really a "next day" service. Can anyone with experience of this comment, pls. Thanks.

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Re: Super Priority Service - what are the advantages?

Post by meself2 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:59 pm

Lawgic wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:13 pm
hi

With regards to the FLR M extension, I see that the turnaround times are around 1-2 weeks (in the Timeline Thread).

The question is, even if you submit the application via this posh £800 service for a "next day" decision, you still need to submit the biometrics, right? And that will depend on the availability of the centres to allow you to submit those biometrics.

The next working day does not start to tick until after the biometrics submission, so it is not really a "next day" service. Can anyone with experience of this comment, pls. Thanks.
Yes, if you pay for a (super) priority service, it starts counting after you submit your biometrics. Appointment here refers to biometrics appointment:
https://www.gov.uk/faster-decision-visa-settlement
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FLR M extension - wife laid off before applying

Post by Lawgic » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:25 pm

Wife has been with the employer for 2 years and 4 months. Due to apply for extension in June but wife was laid off today as employer struggling and letting people go.

How does this affect her financial requirements? She has payslips for full period, but won’t have a job in June.

It’s hard to find another job so soon. Her previous job paid £35 net so satisfied the level of income.

Anyone has had similar story?

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Re: FLR M extension - wife laid off before applying

Post by CR001 » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:53 pm

Topics merged again!

Do you meet the financial requirements on your own??

There is no requirement that both of you must meet the financial requirement.
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Re: FLR M extension - wife laid off before applying

Post by vinny » Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:39 am

Lawgic wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:25 pm
Wife has been with the employer for 2 years and 4 months. Due to apply for extension in June but wife was laid off today as employer struggling and letting people go.

How does this affect her financial requirements? She has payslips for full period, but won’t have a job in June.

It’s hard to find another job so soon. Her previous job paid £35 net so satisfied the level of income.

Anyone has had similar story?
I think she has problems.
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Re: FLR M extension - wife laid off before applying

Post by Lawgic » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:13 am

CR001 wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:53 pm
Topics merged again!

Do you meet the financial requirements on your own??

There is no requirement that both of you must meet the financial requirement.
CR001, thanks. If you explain how I can merge topics on my own (tried every clickable section but doesn't seem to allow me to).

I got it the first time, but cannot merge topics, while posting in the same thread which has a different topic would not really relay the idea. Thanks again for merging those posts! :)

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