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Request

Post by syedyaz » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 pm

Hi,

I was going to request you consideration for this issue. I have applied for the extension of my skilled worker visa along with my family (2 adults and 2 children). I was told by the employer that they have withdrawn sponsorship as i applied for the visa out of time and the sponsorship letter is no longer valid. I made a request to the employer to provide me the renewed sponsorship letter but they refuse to do so. I was told by uk visa office that the decision could take upto 8 weeks.
I request you to please guide what could be done in this regards and how to resolve this issue?

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Re: Request

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:00 pm

What date did your last visa expire?

What date did you make a new application?

If the sponaor withdraws sponsorship, you won't get a new visa.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:07 pm

Hi,

What date did your last visa expire? July 2023

What date did you make a new application? November 2024

I previously applied for my visa application on May 6, 2023, and duly paid the necessary fee. The original application included three applicants: two adults and a child born in Pakistan. Subsequently, our family welcomed a new baby on May 17, 2023, which necessitated the preparation of additional documents.

Upon receiving the newborn's documents, I attempted to proceed with the existing application but discovered that I had misplaced the email reference provided by the visa office. Upon enquiry, I was informed that I could not continue with the previous application and needed to submit a new one. Accordingly, I requested a refund for the fee associated with the initial application. I was advised to withdraw the initial application to facilitate the refund process, which I was informed could take up to eight weeks.

Due to financial constraints, I was unable to afford the fees for extending the visas of all family members without this refund. I made a request to the University to advance me the fee that i'll reimburse back once i have it from UK visa office. Fortunately, I received the refunded fee in the mid of this month from the UK visa office, and I have promptly resubmitted the visa extension application on 15th November 2023, paid the fee in full, and scheduled an appointment that was done on 18th November, 2023.

Right now the issue that i have applied for the visa extension with a certificate of sponsorship that is no longer valid and i was unaware of this issue.

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Re: Request

Post by meself2 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:35 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:07 pm
What date did you make a new application? November 2024
I assume 2023 was meant.

Are you currently in the UK or abroad?
If you're in the UK, you're most likely an overstayer.
If you're abroad, you need a new sponsor.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:47 pm

Hi,

I assume 2023 was meant.
I apologize, it was in fact November 2023.

Are you currently in the UK or abroad? I am in the UK

If you're in the UK, you're most likely an overstayer. I have the proof of application that i have an application in process and it takes 8 weeks to have a decision on the application. In this case, should i be considered as an over-stayer?

If you're abroad, you need a new sponsor. I am actively looking for a new job, please don't hesitate to cite if you know someone who is looking to hire workers.

I request you to please suggest what could be done in this regards and how to resolve this issue?

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Re: Request

Post by meself2 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:20 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:47 pm
I have the proof of application that i have an application in process and it takes 8 weeks to have a decision on the application. In this case, should i be considered as an over-stayer?
If I understood your situation correctly, you first applied for a visa (and then you were legally in the UK), then cancelled your application (that's where your legal stay ended!) and you submitted a new application while having no right to stay in the UK.
Others (and yourself) may correct me, but that situation makes it seem that you're currently in the UK illegally.

Your legal stay would be in place if you would've submitted your new application before your last visa expired.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:28 pm

Hi,

If I understood your situation correctly, you first applied for a visa (and then you were legally in the UK), then cancelled your application (that's where your legal stay ended!) and you submitted a new application while having no right to stay in the UK.

I was going to request your consideration for this clarification. Actually, i paid the fee with my initial application that was stuck with the uk visa office. I couldn't afford to pay for the visa fee without a refund. They told me that i cannot continue with that application and should submit a new application. Upon their advice i withdrew the application. Once they withdrew the application, they asked me to submit a new application as soon as i could and that i did promptly. Do you think it wasn't in line with with what i was advised for?

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Re: Request

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:42 pm

They told me that i cannot continue with that application
Why couldn't you?

And who advised you, did you call the call centre number?

What you are saying doesnt make sense to be honest.

There was no nees to apply immediately for the new baby.
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Re: Request

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:52 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 4:07 pm
Hi,

What date did your last visa expire? July 2023

What date did you make a new application? November 2024

I previously applied for my visa application on May 6, 2023, and duly paid the necessary fee. The original application included three applicants: two adults and a child born in Pakistan. Subsequently, our family welcomed a new baby on May 17, 2023, which necessitated the preparation of additional documents. No, newborn does not necessitate applying for them immediately, you should have let the existing applications for the 3 applicants run its course. This wrong understanding is the start of the problem

Upon receiving the newborn's documents, I attempted to proceed with the existing application but discovered that I had misplaced the email reference provided by the visa office. Upon enquiry, I was informed that I could not continue with the previous application and needed to submit a new one. Accordingly, I requested a refund for the fee associated with the initial application. I was advised to withdraw the initial application to facilitate the refund process, which I was informed could take up to eight weeks.

Due to financial constraints, I was unable to afford the fees for extending the visas of all family members without this refund. I made a request to the University to advance me the fee that i'll reimburse back once i have it from UK visa office. Fortunately, I received the refunded fee in the mid of this month from the UK visa office, and I have promptly resubmitted the visa extension application on 15th November 2023, paid the fee in full, and scheduled an appointment that was done on 18th November, 2023.

Right now the issue that i have applied for the visa extension with a certificate of sponsorship that is no longer valid and i was unaware of this issue.

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Re: Request

Post by AmazonianX » Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:54 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 5:28 pm
Hi,

If I understood your situation correctly, you first applied for a visa (and then you were legally in the UK), then cancelled your application (that's where your legal stay ended!) and you submitted a new application while having no right to stay in the UK.

I was going to request your consideration for this clarification. Actually, i paid the fee with my initial application that was stuck with the uk visa office. I couldn't afford to pay for the visa fee without a refund. They told me that i cannot continue with that application and should submit a new application. Upon their advice i withdrew the application. Once they withdrew the application, they asked me to submit a new application as soon as i could and that i did promptly. Do you think it wasn't in line with with what i was advised for?

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They/their above refers to who? What was the means of communication between you and they/their?

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Re: Request

Post by Ticktack » Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:29 am

I am actively looking for a new job,
Not sure anyone can hire you. I don't mean this maliciously, but you have no legal right to live and work in the UK.
Your baby didn't need to have a legal stay in the UK, no paperwork required. You could have done that at your leisure.

As addressed above, the minute you pulled you application, your protection ended. You have no idea how much damage you did. What always kills me, is why folks wait till the problem seems almost unfixable before they come here to ask for advise. It's campaigning after elections.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:04 pm

Why couldn't you? As i missed the email reference that was given by the UKVI. I request them to regenerate it but they told me that this couldn't be done.

And who advised you, did you call the call centre number?
I was advised by the UKVI. I called 03007906268.

What you are saying doesnt make sense to be honest.
Please elaborate which part doesn't make sense?

There was no nees to apply immediately for the new baby.
I didn't know this earlier but now i do.

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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:06 pm

They/their above refers to who? UKVI
What was the means of communication between you and they/their? email and over the phone

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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:08 pm

Not sure anyone can hire you. I don't mean this maliciously, but you have no legal right to live and work in the UK.
Your baby didn't need to have a legal stay in the UK, no paperwork required. You could have done that at your leisure.
I didn't know this before but now i do.

As addressed above, the minute you pulled you application, your protection ended. You have no idea how much damage you did. What always kills me, is why folks wait till the problem seems almost unfixable before they come here to ask for advise. It's campaigning after elections.

I request you to please tell how to resolve it?

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Re: Request

Post by Casa » Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:45 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 8:06 pm
They/their above refers to who? UKVI
What was the means of communication between you and they/their? email and over the phone
Your weren't speaking to UKVI staff. The 'help line' is manned by an outside agency, whose employees have very limited knowledge of the Immigration Rules. Regrettably, they frequently give callers incorrect advice and take no responsibility for the consequences. :idea:
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:28 pm

Hi,

I am going to request your consideration for this issue. I am being advised by someone that if i request UKVI to consider my previous application that involved 3 applicants and that had the sponsorship valid and request UKVI to take decision on that, it may resolve the issue. I have been told the moment i withdrew the application it caused all these issues. But if we request them no to take into account the withdrawal then maybe it could resolve the issue. What do you think?

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Re: Request

Post by CR001 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:38 pm

syedyaz wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:28 pm
Hi,

I am going to request your consideration for this issue. I am being advised by someone that if i request UKVI to consider my previous application that involved 3 applicants and that had the sponsorship valid and request UKVI to take decision on that, it may resolve the issue. I have been told the moment i withdrew the application it caused all these issues. But if we request them no to take into account the withdrawal then maybe it could resolve the issue. What do you think?

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You cannot do this. Your issues is that your employer has withdrawn sponsorship, which means UKVI won't issue you a visa based on the CoS the employer gave you. The CoS will be cancelled.
I was told by the employer that they have withdrawn sponsorship as i applied for the visa out of time and the sponsorship letter is no longer valid. I made a request to the employer to provide me the renewed sponsorship letter but they refuse to do so.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:38 pm

I am going to request you to tell if it's possible to apply for 2 types of visas i.e.
Global Talent and Skilled Worker simultaneously or do we have to wait for the response for one and then
apply for the other?

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Re: Request

Post by meself2 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:39 pm

You can't have two applications at the same time.

You either wait until the decision is made or, if you lodge another application, it's considered as variation (so old one is discarded).
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:27 pm

I was going to request your consideration for an issue. I have already an application that involves 2 adults and 2 children in process at the home office since 15th November. I have not been notified till date. If i get a new job and my employer wants me to start as early as possible what should be done? It would be best for me to opt for the expedited procedure to get the visa first for myself only and the regular procedure for my family afterwards. I request you to tell what is the best way forward?

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Re: Request

Post by meself2 » Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:41 am

You cannot speed up your application once submitted. If you've already applied, you can only wait (or withdraw and reapply, but extremely not recommended).
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:42 am

I am going to request you to tell if there is a way to tackle this issue because i have to go for an expedited procedure as the employer wants me to start as early as possible. Is it possible to start a new application with an expedited procedure in parallel and once i have the visa withdraw the older one?

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Re: Request

Post by CR001 » Sat Jan 13, 2024 11:49 am

Is it possible to start a new application with an expedited procedure in parallel and once i have the visa withdraw the older one?
No, you cannot. You are not permitted to have two applications at the same time with UKVI. You can also only use a CoS once. You have also already been told in December that you cannot have two applications pending at the same time.

You have unnecessarily complicated your own immigration journey, have no valid visa and you are an overstayer and your previous application sponsorship was withdrawn before a visa was even issued.

Priority and Super Priority service are not for complicated cases, which yours is.
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Re: Request

Post by syedyaz » Sat Jan 13, 2024 1:01 pm

I was going to request you to tell what should i do in this regards as the employer wants me to start as soon as possible? I request you to please tell how to handle this issue.

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Re: Request

Post by AmazonianX » Sat Jan 13, 2024 3:30 pm

Wait to.have the outcome of the application or breach the rules.

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