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GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:39 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have a few questions due to some confusion. Appreciate a prompt guidance as always, please :)

A quick overview: My wife and children are on GTV dependent visa. I am on ILR and not on GTV. They are due to apply for ILR in Jan/25. Two of my children are 18.
  • My wife can apply individually or she has to apply with her dependents? What about children over 18?
  • What would be the form? SET M or O?
  • I've heard that there is a different Fee for Appointment Services for SET M or O?
  • I've also heard that the Standard Appointment Service is not available (for SET M or O) and one has to choose Priority or Super Priority?
  • The fee for priority service will be for one application (main applicant and dependents) or separate for everyone? What about Children over 18?
  • Applying individually is better for the cost or together. Please advise
Appreciate a prompt response please.

Thanks :)

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by zimba » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:44 pm

They must use form SET(O). Adults will fill out their own forms separately. You need to pay ILR fees per applicant.
The fee for ILR is the same and payable for each applicant, this has nothing to do with the form used.
Priority service is a visa processing service (i.e. how fast you get a decision AFTER you enrol your biometrics).
Priority fee is also payable for each applicant when they submit their application online and it has NOTHING to do with the biometrics appointment. Standard service is always available for all applications.

Applying together does not affect the cost, it will work out the same as applying individually. Note that adults must apply separately anyway.
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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:35 pm

Hi Zimba,

Thank you for your prompt response. Highly appreciated.

The ILR 5 Years qualification period is ending on 30/Dec/2024, the GTV dependent is valid until 25/Mar/25. Can they apply for ILR after 30/Dec/2024 and take up Standard service (6 weeks)?

Also, my children completed their Schooling here in the UK, the two 18 years old are in College and in University. Do they still have to satisfy the English requirements?

Thank you again for taking the time to reply. :)
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They must use form SET(O). Adults will fill out their own forms separately. You need to pay ILR fees per applicant.
The fee for ILR is the same and payable for each applicant, this has nothing to do with the form used.
Priority service is a visa processing service (i.e. how fast you get a decision AFTER you enrol your biometrics).
Priority fee is also payable for each applicant when they submit their application online and it has NOTHING to do with the biometrics appointment. Standard service is always available for all applications.

Applying together does not affect the cost, it will work out the same as applying individually. Note that adults must apply separately anyway.

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by zimba » Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:10 pm

shan1403 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:35 pm
Hi Zimba,

Thank you for your prompt response. Highly appreciated.

The ILR 5 Years qualification period is ending on 30/Dec/2024, the GTV dependent is valid until 25/Mar/25. Can they apply for ILR after 30/Dec/2024 and take up Standard service (6 weeks)?

Also, my children completed their Schooling here in the UK, the two 18 years old are in College and in University. Do they still have to satisfy the English requirements?

Thank you again for taking the time to reply. :)
They can apply anytime before visa expiry, then their application can take as long as it takes and their visa expiry will be irrelevant.
Learn about section 3C: Applicants can benefit from the date of the ILR decision

Finishing school in the UK does NOT meet the English language requirement, they need to sit for a SELT exam.
See: https://www.trinitycollege.com/qualific ... SE-grade-5
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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Fri Oct 25, 2024 9:39 pm

Hi Zimba,

A million thanks for your continuous help. Just a couple more, please :)
  • My family spent around a month outside in these 5 years. Do they need to cover these days and/or mention the reason in the application?
  • I got my ILR after 3 years (GTV) on 13/JUN/22. My 5 years are already over on 13/JUN/24. Can I apply for my naturalisation now or should I wait for them to get their ILR? Any negative impact? Like shifting to 10 year route etc.
  • Due to BRP expiry at the end of 2024, I switched to eVisa. The eVisa is showing an error and displaying my GTV status instead of ILR. However, when I run the RTW check, it shows the correct information. I contacted the Home Office at that time and they said this may well be fixed as there are some issues with the eVisa. Should I contact them again to get this fixed before my family ILR application or my naturalisation? Or this will not impact them/me at the time of ILR or naturalisation?
Thanks and again appreciate your response. :)
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Fri Oct 25, 2024 1:10 pm
shan1403 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:35 pm
Hi Zimba,

Thank you for your prompt response. Highly appreciated.

The ILR 5 Years qualification period is ending on 30/Dec/2024, the GTV dependent is valid until 25/Mar/25. Can they apply for ILR after 30/Dec/2024 and take up Standard service (6 weeks)?

Also, my children completed their Schooling here in the UK, the two 18 years old are in College and in University. Do they still have to satisfy the English requirements?

Thank you again for taking the time to reply. :)
They can apply anytime before visa expiry, then their application can take as long as it takes and their visa expiry will be irrelevant.
Learn about section 3C: Applicants can benefit from the date of the ILR decision

Finishing school in the UK does NOT meet the English language requirement, they need to sit for a SELT exam.
See: https://www.trinitycollege.com/qualific ... SE-grade-5

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by zimba » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:57 am

• They do not need to cover anything
• Your naturalisation has no relevance to your family's ILR process at all
• eVisa issues/errors are not relevant here either. Your ILR status is all that matters
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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:34 pm

Thanks mate, for your continuous support.

May I ask a follow-up question?

How soon my partner and children (dependent and 18+) can apply for Naturalisation once they have their ILR and I have my Passport?

Thanks again for your support.
Cheers
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• They do not need to cover anything
• Your naturalisation has no relevance to your family's ILR process at all
• eVisa issues/errors are not relevant here either. Your ILR status is all that matters

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by CR001 » Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:48 pm

Please ask your British citizen questions in the correct sub forum. These questions are not relevant to the ILR topic or sub forum!!

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:27 pm

Hi Zimba,

I am about to apply for ILR for my dependent. Could you kindly clarify the following?
  • Can I apply Priority service for my Spouse and standard service for my children? I don't want to pay for priority/super for them. How can I do this
  • I've heard that no Standard or Priority service options are available for SET(M) - PBS/GTV Dependents applying for ILR. Only Super Priority is available. Is that true?
zimba wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:57 am
• They do not need to cover anything
• Your naturalisation has no relevance to your family's ILR process at all
• eVisa issues/errors are not relevant here either. Your ILR status is all that matters

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by CR001 » Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:46 pm

1. Yes, you have to apply for them separately on separate forms.

2. Set M is NOT the correct form!! They apply on form SET O!!
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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Tue Dec 10, 2024 11:24 pm

Thanks CR001,
  • Should my spouse apply for her ILR first and then apply for under 18 children (separate applications each)? I know that over 18 will be separate
  • Is it correct that no Standard or Priority Services are available for SET O? Or is there a specific/ideal time when they are available? I mentioned SET M by mistake earlier, apologies
Thanks a million :)
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1. Yes, you have to apply for them separately on separate forms.

2. Set M is NOT the correct form!! They apply on form SET O!!

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:09 pm

Hi CR001 (or anyone else),

It would be a big help if you could clarify this further. I posted the following follow-up questions before this reply.
  • Should my spouse apply for her ILR first and then apply for under 18 children (separate applications each)? I know that over 18 will be separate
  • Is it correct that no Standard or Priority Services are available for SET O? Or is there a specific/ideal time when they are available? I mentioned SET M by mistake earlier, apologies
Thanks in advance. :)
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1. Yes, you have to apply for them separately on separate forms.

2. Set M is NOT the correct form!! They apply on form SET O!!

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by zimba » Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:01 am

They can both apply together. Only the 5-day priority is not offered
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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 4:53 pm

Thank you so much for your continuous support.
  • I've heard that dependents under 18 can apply for ILR immediately after one of their parents got ILR. They don't have to complete 5 years in the kingdom. Is this true?
  • Also, does the same apply to British Passport?
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They can both apply together. Only the 5-day priority is not offered

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by CR001 » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:26 pm

I've heard that dependents under 18 can apply for ILR immediately after one of their parents got ILR. They don't have to complete 5 years in the kingdom. Is this true?
There is no minimum 5 years foe children. They apply for ilr when the parents do.
Also, does the same apply to British Passport?
They have to apply for British citizenship before they can apply for British passport!! They are not the same thing, two completely separate processes. They can apply for registration as British if they have ILR, if one parent is already British and the other parent holds ilr, if they are under 18 and have at least 2 years residence if ever the age of 2. If your children are over 18, they need 5 years residence which must include 12 months on ILR. No shortcut route for them as they apply as adults on form AN.

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Sun Dec 29, 2024 4:58 pm

Thanks, CR001 for your continuous support.

The current situation is that one parent has an ILR, and another will be applying for an ILR in January 2025. Both parents and children live together, and both parents earn and support the family. No public funds were taken.
  • Based on this, can children under 18 immediately apply for ILR, or do both parents need to have ILR?
  • Also, is there a requirement for ILR (for <18) that says that parents need to prove the responsibility of the children? If yes then how can this be done there is no point in taking court orders when everyone is living together, both parents are earning and both are responsible for children
Thanks again :)
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Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:26 pm
I've heard that dependents under 18 can apply for ILR immediately after one of their parents got ILR. They don't have to complete 5 years in the kingdom. Is this true?
There is no minimum 5 years foe children. They apply for ilr when the parents do.
Also, does the same apply to British Passport?
They have to apply for British citizenship before they can apply for British passport!! They are not the same thing, two completely separate processes. They can apply for registration as British if they have ILR, if one parent is already British and the other parent holds ilr, if they are under 18 and have at least 2 years residence if ever the age of 2. If your children are over 18, they need 5 years residence which must include 12 months on ILR. No shortcut route for them as they apply as adults on form AN.

Please ask your citizenship questions in the British citizenship subforum. These questions are not relevant to the ilr topic or sub forum!!!

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Re: GTV Dependent to ILR

Post by shan1403 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:53 am

Hi CR001,

Appreciate your response if you could please? :)

The current situation is that one parent has an ILR, and another will be applying for an ILR in January 2025. Both parents and children live together, and both parents earn and support the family. No public funds were taken.
  • Based on this, can children under 18 immediately apply for ILR, or do both parents need to have ILR?
  • Also, is there a requirement for ILR (for <18) that says that parents need to prove the responsibility of the children? If yes then how can this be done there is no point in taking court orders when everyone is living together, both parents are earning and both are responsible for children
Thanks
CR001 wrote:
Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:26 pm
I've heard that dependents under 18 can apply for ILR immediately after one of their parents got ILR. They don't have to complete 5 years in the kingdom. Is this true?
There is no minimum 5 years foe children. They apply for ilr when the parents do.
Also, does the same apply to British Passport?
They have to apply for British citizenship before they can apply for British passport!! They are not the same thing, two completely separate processes. They can apply for registration as British if they have ILR, if one parent is already British and the other parent holds ilr, if they are under 18 and have at least 2 years residence if ever the age of 2. If your children are over 18, they need 5 years residence which must include 12 months on ILR. No shortcut route for them as they apply as adults on form AN.

Please ask your citizenship questions in the British citizenship subforum. These questions are not relevant to the ilr topic or sub forum!!!

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SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by shan1403 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:17 pm

Hello guys,

Need help here because now I am confused. I received a response to one of my queries here that I should be using SET (M). However, some are saying (outside forum) that it will be SET (M) for some family members and SET (O) for others.

Here is the situation and the questions. Appreciate your prompt response:

Situation:
  • I was on Tier 2 then switched to GTV visa and had my ILR on 13/6/22
  • My spouse and children moved to T2 PBS Dependent on 28/1/20 then they were moved to GTV dependent on 23/11/2021
  • The current leave will expire 31/3/2025 and 5 years period is already over. They never stayed outside the UK more than a month during this time
  • Three children are under 18 and two are above 18
Questions:
  • The under 18 apply with a Spouse, or apply with me (I already have ILR)? We don't want to pay the <18 priority service fee. Also, which form will be? M or O?
  • Which form will be if my spouse is going to apply separately?
  • Which form will be if my >18 will apply separately?
  • Is it possible for my spouse to add all the dependents under one application to avoid paying priority for all?
Please suggest. Appreciate a quick response.

(Thanks) :)

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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:40 pm

Topics merged.

You were already given advice in october last year. Read through it again!
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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by shan1403 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:18 pm

Hi CR001,

I appreciate that.

The confusion is about the use of SET O only for everyone or for a few. This isn't clear now (at least for me). Could you please advise if all of my dependents need to use SET O based on the current situation?
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Topics merged.

You were already given advice in october last year. Read through it again!

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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:23 pm

Set O is the only form that can be used.
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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by shan1403 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:30 pm

Thank you for confirming.

When we start the application (SET O), it asks for 'Select a category in which you are applying for indefinite leave to remain. As my family is still on GTV dependent visa. should we choose 'Tier 1 or Global Talent Dependent'?

The confusion is because I have ILR now and I don't have a GTV visa anymore. There is no such option that says anything about ILR dependents etc.

Appreciate your prompt response. Thanks :)
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Set O is the only form that can be used.

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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by CR001 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:35 pm

There is no such visa category called "ILR Dependent"!!

They apply for ILR based on the GTV dependent visas they currently hold!
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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by zimba » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:42 pm

shan1403 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:30 pm
Thank you for confirming.

When we start the application (SET O), it asks for 'Select a category in which you are applying for indefinite leave to remain. As my family is still on GTV dependent visa. should we choose 'Tier 1 or Global Talent Dependent'?

The confusion is because I have ILR now and I don't have a GTV visa anymore. There is no such option that says anything about ILR dependents etc.

Appreciate your prompt response. Thanks :)
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Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:23 pm
Set O is the only form that can be used.
Tier 1 or Global Talent Dependent is the route they are under and that is the route they are applying for ILR. That is why you have to choose that option. This is correct
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Re: SET(M) or SET(O). Please help?

Post by shan1403 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:52 pm

Thank you CR001 and Zimba.
zimba wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:42 pm
shan1403 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:30 pm
Thank you for confirming.

When we start the application (SET O), it asks for 'Select a category in which you are applying for indefinite leave to remain. As my family is still on GTV dependent visa. should we choose 'Tier 1 or Global Talent Dependent'?

The confusion is because I have ILR now and I don't have a GTV visa anymore. There is no such option that says anything about ILR dependents etc.

Appreciate your prompt response. Thanks :)
CR001 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:23 pm
Set O is the only form that can be used.
Tier 1 or Global Talent Dependent is the route they are under and that is the route they are applying for ILR. That is why you have to choose that option. This is correct

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