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Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:17 pm

Hi,

Sorry if this question has been answered before and could not find any topic related to my scenario.

I am currently on ILR and my wife came as my dependent and now she has completed 1 Year after being granted ILR and now she is eligible for Naturalization.

My daughter is already British Citizen and I am not applying for Naturalization at this moment.

I am filling out the Naturalization as a British Citizen ( Form AN) online form just for my wife.

On the Naturalization form , there is a question i.e. " Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?". So how to answer this question ?

As my daughter is already British Citizen, and I am not dependant on my wife, as my wife came to UK as my dependent , What should be the answer to this question as I am bit confused ?

Please help me on this query.

Many Thanks

Raj

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by contorted_svy » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:11 pm

Say No. as there are no dependents that aren't British citizens already.
All advice comes from personal research and experience and should not be regarded as professional opinion.

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:41 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:11 pm
Say No. as there are no dependents that aren't British citizens already.
Thanks contorted_svy for your reply.

.1. So is my understanding right for this question , that even though I am still on ILR and currently not British Citizen and not applying for Naturalization, I am not consider as my wife dependent for her Naturalization application in the context of UK immigration ?

.2. Also I am suppose to give details of 2 referees i.e. One must be a British citizen, over 25 years old, And other must be a professional person for e.g. Manager or Director of Limited Company. So can we give details of both of this referees in any order on application form ? or it has to be in specific order i.e. professional person first?

Please help me with this queries.

Many Thanks.

Raj

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:39 pm

RAJ007 wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:41 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:11 pm
Say No. as there are no dependents that aren't British citizens already.
Thanks contorted_svy for your reply.

.1. So is my understanding right for this question , that even though I am still on ILR and currently not British Citizen and not applying for Naturalization, I am not consider as my wife dependent for her Naturalization application in the context of UK immigration ?
Correct

.2. Also I am suppose to give details of 2 referees i.e. One must be a British citizen, over 25 years old, And other must be a professional person for e.g. Manager or Director of Limited Company. So can we give details of both of this referees in any order on application form ? or it has to be in specific order i.e. professional person first?

makes no difference as long as the referees are suitable.

Please help me with this queries.

Many Thanks.

Raj
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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:22 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:39 pm
RAJ007 wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:41 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Sun Jun 22, 2025 10:11 pm
Say No. as there are no dependents that aren't British citizens already.
Thanks contorted_svy for your reply.

.1. So is my understanding right for this question , that even though I am still on ILR and currently not British Citizen and not applying for Naturalization, I am not consider as my wife dependent for her Naturalization application in the context of UK immigration ?
Correct

.2. Also I am suppose to give details of 2 referees i.e. One must be a British citizen, over 25 years old, And other must be a professional person for e.g. Manager or Director of Limited Company. So can we give details of both of this referees in any order on application form ? or it has to be in specific order i.e. professional person first?

makes no difference as long as the referees are suitable.

Please help me with this queries.

Many Thanks.

Raj

Thanks contorted_svy for answering my queries.

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 1:44 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have few more queries related to my wife Naturalization application form

(a) As per the Naturalization application, I believe only few document are required for my wife application;
.1. English Language pass certificate which was previously submitted for ILR.
.2. Life in the UK test unique reference number, which was previously submitted for ILR.
.3. All Passport pages, showing all immigration stamps for Proof of living in the UK for 5 years.
.4. As BRP is already expired , does the scanned image of the ILR BRP needs to be submitted ?
.5. Covering letter of the absences from the UK in last 5 years.
.6. Currently my wife is working , so does she needs to submit last 3 months of payslips ?
.7. Does my wife need to submit current employment reference letter ?

.8. Does she need to submit any P60 ?
.9. Last 5 years council tax statement showing residence proof for last 5 years.
10. Do we need to submit any other documents of us living together as we submitted for my wife ILR application previously ?

(b) Do we also need to submit both referee declaration form as per below link or email will be sent to both the referee to confirm the identity. And if yes , do we need to get this referee declaration documents signed before we submit the application or can this be done after the application is submitted ?;
https://visas-immigration.service.gov.u ... on_MN1.pdf

(c) Also on the back of the applicant’s photograph, do we need to write applicant full name and date of birth and glue this photograph to the Referee Declaration Form ?

(d) Both the Referee's are manager of limited company. One of my friend also manages his other property through limited company and is the director of that limited company. So will that be a good option to give one referee as a Manager and other referee as a director of limited company ? Or both as manager of limited company will be Okay ?

(e) How to answer this 2 question related to Referee;
.1. What is their profession ? Can this be answered as just Manager ? Or Manager at Xyz company ?
.2. How does the referee knows the applicant ? As both the referee knows my wife, Can this be answered as just Friend ? Or my Spouse Friend ?

(f) Do I need to submit any documents of myself, which I did as part of my wife ILR application where she was my dependent, but for her Naturalization application I don't think my documents such as my passport, my pay slips , my employment reference letter etc. is required ?


Please help me with this queries.

Thanks and Regards,
Raj

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:45 pm

Number 5 to 10 is NOT required.

b) You need to submit the signed referee form. Nothing is sent to them by UKVI. They should sign ideally before the date of application.

c) Ignore about writing on back of photo. It is from the paper applicairon days.

d) it doesn't matter. Only ONE referee needs to be a professional on the list. The other one must be British and over 25 years of age. Both must be of good character.

e) Just manager is fine.

f) Nothing.

Have you read the guidance notes at all??
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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 3:56 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:45 pm
Number 5 to 10 is NOT required.

b) You need to submit the signed referee form. Nothing is sent to them by UKVI. They should sign ideally before the date of application.

c) Ignore about writing on back of photo. It is from the paper applicairon days.

d) it doesn't matter. Only ONE referee needs to be a professional on the list. The other one must be British and over 25 years of age. Both must be of good character.

e) Just manager is fine.

f) Nothing.

Have you read the guidance notes at all??

Thanks CR001 for answering my queries.

Have gone through the guidance but some of the question on application form were bit confusing so need some clarification

Just need clarification related to below points;

(a) As BRP is already expired and is now replaced by e-visa, does the scanned image of the ILR BRP needs to be still submitted ? Or we now have to submit the e-visa document instead of the BRP ?

(e) How to answer this question related to Referee;
.2. How does the referee knows the applicant ? As both the referee knows me an my wife personally for more than 3 years, Can this be answered as just Friend ? Or my Spouse Friend ?

Please help me on this queries please.

Thanks and Regards,
Raj

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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:01 pm

Just friend is fine for referees.

You can upload the brp or the evisa screenshot.
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Re: Need Help Query - Do you have any dependants not applying with you at this time?

Post by RAJ007 » Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:42 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Aug 20, 2025 4:01 pm
Just friend is fine for referees.

You can upload the brp or the evisa screenshot.
Thanks again for your help CR001 :)

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