Application and Referees

[RFA]

Kindly advise; I have just attained settled status. I am currently in the process of applying for citizenship registration for my less then year old baby, born in UK, while I was still on skilled worker visa.

Question 1: Is it mandatory for, at least, one referee to have known the baby in professional capacity? Can I not just provide a reference of a lecturer that I know of myself; they know the baby well, but of course not in a professional capacity. I am asking this question because the baby's health professionals are taking a lot of time (up to 2 months) to release the information for reference. I assume its because the application requires quite a lot of personal information of the referees, including home address and passport number.

Question 2: the online MN1 form requires at least 3 years of home address, but the baby is few months old. It doesn't let me continue, unless I enter that he has lived at present address for three years or otherwise enter a previous address, hence, for now, I have entered the hospital in which the baby was born as the last address, so that it lets me complete the application. In the previous address section, I have written "born in this hospital, only xyz months old". Is this a right approach?

[contorted_svy]

Kindly advise; I have just attained settled status. I am currently in the process of applying for citizenship registration for my less then year old baby, born in UK, while I was still on skilled worker visa.

Question 1: Is it mandatory for, at least, one referee to have known the baby in professional capacity? Can I not just provide a reference of a lecturer that I know of myself; they know the baby well, but of course not in a professional capacity. I am asking this question because the baby's health professionals are taking a lot of time (up to 2 months) to release the information for reference. I assume its because the application requires quite a lot of personal information of the referees, including home address and passport number. This is a well known issue to UKVi. you can use your friend who is a lecturer

Question 2: the online MN1 form requires at least 3 years of home address, but the baby is few months old. It doesn't let me continue, unless I enter that he has lived at present address for three years or otherwise enter a previous address, hence, for now, I have entered the hospital in which the baby was born as the last address, so that it lets me complete the application. In the previous address section, I have written "born in this hospital, only xyz months old". Is this a right approach? Input your own address(es) for the last 3 years and then explain your child has only lived at the last one as they are only a few months old.

[RFA]

Thank you

[RFA]

Thanks again for the help;

Can you also provide some clarification regarding my child's status during a pending MN1 application.

Here is the Background again:
My child was born in the UK, and one parent now holds Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR). We have submitted the MN1 form to register him as a British citizen (under section 1(3)), completed biometrics, and are currently awaiting a decision. My baby's current dependent visa is due to expire soon in few days now.

Questions:

I am really confused as ChatGPT came up with this: No, Section 3C leave does NOT apply when you submit an MN1 application. Section 3C leave only applies when a person applies to extend or vary their leave to remain in the UK—that is, immigration applications made within the Immigration Rules (e.g., extension of a dependent visa, switching to another visa, etc.). MN1 is an application for British citizenship, not an immigration application—it is an application under the British Nationality Act 1981, not the Immigration Rules.

Is it necessary / recommended to extend my child’s dependent visa while the MN1 application is pending, or is it acceptable to simply await the citizenship decision?

Does Section 3C leave apply when an MN1 is submitted, or is this only relevant to immigration applications (such as extensions or switching visa categories)?

If Section 3C does not apply, what is my child’s legal status in the UK while waiting for the MN1 outcome, should their visa expire? Are they considered overstayers, and does this have any practical consequences?

If, in the worst case, the MN1 application is refused and the prior visa has already expired, is it possible to reapply for another visa (for example, as a child dependent of an ILR holder) without immediate enforcement action? Does the Home Office give any leeway or “grace period” for children in this situation?

Are there any other risks or issues I should be aware of during this waiting period, especially if my child’s visa lapses before citizenship is granted?

Any advice or input from gurus would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

[CR001]

The child is an overstayer once their visa expires.

Section 3C only applies to immigration applications. NOT citizenship applications.

A UK born child does NOT need a valid visa to be registered as British as they have an entitlement to register.

[RFA]

The child is an overstayer once their visa expires.

Section 3C only applies to immigration applications. NOT citizenship applications.

A UK born child does NOT need a valid visa to be registered as British as they have an entitlement to register.

If the child could become overstayer, should I quickly apply for his dependent extension? Would this step (applying for extension) affect his citizenship application? I don't want the new (dependent extension application) to void /cancel the MN1 citizenship application. Can both applications could be submitted and processed simultaneously. Please advise. Thank you.

[CR001]

The child does NOT need an extension. The visa expireing has NO effect on the child's entitlement to register as British.

[RFA]

The child does NOT need an extension. The visa expireing has NO effect on the child's entitlement to register as British.

Thank you. Big relief.

[RFA]

The child does NOT need an extension. The visa expireing has NO effect on the child's entitlement to register as British.

Thanks for the continuous support. You have advised that there is no need to extend the dependent visa for my child. Just wanted to confirm one last time, if there could be any repercussions in the parents future citizenship, in the context that the child is considered as overstaying. Putting this forward as spouse (other parent) is still working towards ILR.

[CR001]

No issues. You are overthinking this completely!!

[contorted_svy]

The child does NOT need an extension. The visa expireing has NO effect on the child's entitlement to register as British.

Thanks for the continuous support. You have advised that there is no need to extend the dependent visa for my child. Just wanted to confirm one last time, if there could be any repercussions in the parents future citizenship, in the context that the child is considered as overstaying. Putting this forward as spouse (other parent) is still working towards ILR.

This will be entirely OK.

[RFA]

Yes, I guess I am over thinking it. It's just that I don't want to regret anything in future. So just take my last question:

Would the child be able to continue utilising the NHS as usual? He has appointments booked with both GP and specialist doctor at the hospital.

[CR001]

Nhs is not free if the child doesn't have a visa. Ypu could be billed at 150% of the cost.

You could take out private medical insurance.

[RFA]

Nhs is not free if the child doesn't have a visa. Ypu could be billed at 150% of the cost.

You could take out private medical insurance.

This would affect his upcoming appointments and treatments.

Considering that I am risk-averse person and willing to bear the financial burden of my child's dependent visa extension, can I do so without affecting or self-sabotaging his MN1 registration application? Meaning can both immigration and citizenship application be placed in one time. In our situation, immigration few days after MN1.

[CR001]

Your choice what you choose to do.

They are two completely separate and independent application processes. The cost of the visa and ihs fee for a 3 year visa will likely be more than the nhs charges.

Once the child is British, his dependent visa becomes void/invalid.

[RFA]

Your choice what you choose to do.

They are two completely separate and independent application processes. The cost of the visa and ihs fee for a 3 year visa will likely be more than the nhs charges.

Once the child is British, his dependent visa becomes void/invalid.

Thanks for bearing all this detailed inquiries.