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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Sun Sep 07, 2025 11:10 pm

Thanks for the advice!

I received my ILR on 06/09/24 and I submitted my naturalisation application on 06/09/25 at 00:46. But the UKVI payment confirmation email stated the date as 05/09/25, even though the email was received on 06/09/25 at 00:46 UK time.

However, the application form that I download afterward states DATE OF APPLICATION: 06 September 2025 00:46 British Summer Time (BST)

Would the discrepancy cause any issue with my application?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:18 am

It will likely be OK. the first day for you to be eligible would have been the 5/9 anyway.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:12 pm

Ah I didn’t realise that I calculated my dates wrong, thanks for the advice!

I attended my biometrics with TLSContact today but haven’t received any confirmation from TLSContact after attending the appointment. Is this normal?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 08, 2025 4:37 pm

Yes, completely normal.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:29 pm

Thanks, that’s reassuring albeit frustrating.

It also occurred to me that on my application form under the section where they ask you to provide the reference to all previous applications, I mistakenly put down the UKVI payment reference instead of the unique application number. Now that everything has been submitted and biometrics attended, is there anything I need to do to correct this and how?

I’m not sure that I even have the unique reference number for all my previous applications :(

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by CR001 » Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:31 pm

You are being paranoid and overthinking.

UKVI will have your full immigration history and can cross reference with your form. The question about application ref is an 'if known' answer anyway.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by zxyzhgp » Tue Sep 09, 2025 11:05 am

Mabincredible wrote:
Mon Sep 08, 2025 6:29 pm
Thanks, that’s reassuring albeit frustrating.

It also occurred to me that on my application form under the section where they ask you to provide the reference to all previous applications, I mistakenly put down the UKVI payment reference instead of the unique application number. Now that everything has been submitted and biometrics attended, is there anything I need to do to correct this and how?

I’m not sure that I even have the unique reference number for all my previous applications :(
I forgot to put 2 visa applications there and they still granted me citizenship

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:30 pm

Thanks to all of those who provided me with some reassurance.

I hope this is just me being paranoid again. A few years back, I had a long-standing conflict with a housemate caused a lot of harassment. Since it was staff accommodation, I sought support from the staff accommodation team and my manager. When the situation escalated, I reached out to the police, and I believe he did the same. However, the police decided not to investigate. Instead my workplace arranged a mitigation meeting, with my manager present to support me. A few months later, I moved out when he continued to cause issues, and I decided to simply avoid him. There have been no follow-ups with the police, and I’m unsure if a case had been raised against me, or if he even filed a police report (he claimed he did). I only remembered this last night and had forgotten to share it in my naturalisation application. Should I reach out to the Home Office to declare this, or would it not be necessary?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by lolo2 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 12:59 pm

This looks like more a personal altercation, no need to declare anything.

I agree with you that you're being paranoid and unnecessarily overthinking about many irrelevant things. Just need to relax and wait for a response on the application, it should proceed with no issues.

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:16 am

Thanks!

Does the countdown starts when the application is submitted or when the biometrics is done for naturalisation?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:49 am

We don't know for sure, as we are not caseworkers. It is thought to start from application, but supporting documents are only sent after the biometrics appointment.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:07 pm

Thanks for the help.

I’m constantly searching for errors in my application, and I think I’ve found one that’s concerning.

I forgot to include my self-employment income in the last five years. It’s not my main source of income, and all my self-employment income has been filed for tax purposes, with all taxes paid. Should I write an email to the home office explaining this omission before my application is assessed? If so, which email address should I use?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:20 pm

Additionally, I can attach my HMRC Self-Employment Tax Year Overviews for the financial years 2020–2024, but my self-assessment return for 2024–2025 has not yet been filed, as it is not due until 31 January 2026. will I need to complete this return earlier to assist with my application?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Sun Sep 28, 2025 5:43 pm

sorry, only to add that I understand that employment is not a requirement for citizenship, but I am afraid that it may be interpreted as an attempt to conceal (bad character), even though my self-employment was declared to HMRC.

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Sun Sep 28, 2025 10:16 pm

Apologies for bombarding my own thread as I am unable to edit my previous posts.

I found out that you can choose either employed or self-employed on the online form. You can't choose both. So, when I chose Employed for example, it does not give me an option to choose again. I'm sure that the home office will have access to my HMRC records as I've provided my national insurance number. My understanding is that, since 2022, the application no longer asks for the full employment history, and the online form only asks for the current employment.

The Home Office can, and routinely does, check UK tax and benefit records to help confirm residence and other facts. That same ability to compare records means HMRC records can reveal self employed income even if the online interface did not make it obvious how to list it. So my concern is that the discrepancy may make it look like an attempt to conceal any taxable work, which is why I wish to reach out to demonstrate full transparency and good character.

Any advice on this would be much appreciated!

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:00 pm

Tick only one of the two boxes (I had the same issue). Upload all documents required for both options, and explain in a cover note. I did this and was successful.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 29, 2025 1:08 pm

Thank you for your response!

Unfortunately, I’ve already attended my biometrics. Would it be necessary for me to reach out to them with an email to explain the situation? I had no gaps from my full-time employment during the qualifying period, so I imagine that by providing this information it would be to demonstrate full transparency for tax liabilities. I have provided my national insurance number which would assist the caseworker to look at my tax record, but I do wish to be proactive.

Also, if I were to provide my tax report, would it be for the entire qualifying period, or only for the most recent tax report??

What do you suggest would be the best action to take in my situation? Thank you so much for your help.

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:06 pm

Contact the HO with a cover letter to explain what happened, most recent tax year SA302 and full tax return. That will be enough.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:18 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 5:06 pm
Contact the HO with a cover letter to explain what happened, most recent tax year SA302 and full tax return. That will be enough.
Thanks!

I reached out to the HO today to explain the situation and asked whether they would like me to provide the supplementary materials. I suppose I can write another cover letter with the documents attached.

Where can I download the full tax return and how is it different from the annual SA302?

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:04 pm

You can download the tax return from the HMRC website (the SA302 is only a breakdown of the calculation, the full return includes all the information that you sent).
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:15 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:04 pm
You can download the tax return from the HMRC website (the SA302 is only a breakdown of the calculation, the full return includes all the information that you sent).
Thanks I appreciate it.

Would that be SA302 and SA100 (completed), only for the recent financial year (2023-2024)? Will I need to provide the full tax report for all the qualifying period?

Thank you

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:41 pm

No, you need to complete the return for 2024-2025 and send that. I don't recall all the names of the documents - it is the SA302 for sure and the full tax return.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Mon Sep 29, 2025 7:12 pm

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No, you need to complete the return for 2024-2025 and send that. I don't recall all the names of the documents - it is the SA302 for sure and the full tax return.
Thank you for your clarification. I take your suggestions very seriously, as you and other experienced members on this forum have been incredibly helpful to me.

When I spoke with an immigration expert from XXXXXX, she advised that I could email the Home Office to ask whether submitting self-employment documents is necessary which I have done. If they do need them, I can provide the documents promptly. This approach was recommended to help me avoid overloading my application with unnecessary paperwork, especially considering that I seem to be running on anxiety.

She also mentioned that if I do provide a tax report, it can be from the 2023–2024 tax year, since the current year’s report isn’t due until January 31, 2026.

However, that's different from what you suggested.

Given these different recommendations, I’m feeling a bit uncertain about the best course of action. I would really appreciate your thoughts on how I should proceed.

Thanks again for taking the time to share your advice, it’s been really valuable.

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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:25 pm

This person has given you incorrect advice. You still need to complete the tax return for this year, so I would warmly recommend you do it and send it as that is a necessary document for your application. The advice of not overloading your application is valid for unnecessary documents but this one is indeed necessary.
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Re: Does the referee need to be living in the U.K.

Post by Mabincredible » Tue Sep 30, 2025 12:03 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:25 pm
This person has given you incorrect advice. You still need to complete the tax return for this year, so I would warmly recommend you do it and send it as that is a necessary document for your application. The advice of not overloading your application is valid for unnecessary documents but this one is indeed necessary.
Thanks your response meant more than you’d think to me, especially with the certainty your message conveyed.

For such a crucial document, I’m somewhat surprised that the online form doesn’t explicitly state that additional employment information is needed. It doesn’t offer any options for applicants to add it after the main employment is completed, or even hint at its necessity, unless I’ve overlooked something. While it’s possible to provide additional information in a cover letter, the employment section’s design certainly missed the opportunity to emphasise the importance of including it :(

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