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Prior to 2004, British subjects and other British nationals (except British protected persons), together with citizens of countries with the Queen as Head of State (such as Australia) did not need to take any oath of allegiance to become a British citizen.rayd wrote:I posted here a couple of months ago as a person born in British India of a father also born in British India. My father and grandfather were in the British services. I was classed as a British Subject and not citizen under the 1981 Act, because of my father's birth abroad.
Following the excellent advice given to me on this forum, I applied for and have just received my notification of Britich Citizenship from the Home Office. I used form BOTA.
However, they say in the letter that I have to attend a citizenship ceremony. I thought, from the IND website, that British Subjects were exempt from citizenship ceremonies and the oath of allegiance. Now, of course, I can't find that information on the IND site.
Am I mistaken?
That is indeed so .... we all thoroughly enjoyed the ceremony ... and the pic taken that day by the official photographer is still prominently displayed in our lounge.One of the forum moderators (John) has had some very good things to say about the citizenship ceremony his wife and daughter attended when they became British citizens. So I would suggest that you enjoy what should be a very special event for you.
Thanks for the replies.John wrote:That is indeed so .... we all thoroughly enjoyed the ceremony ... and the pic taken that day by the official photographer is still prominently displayed in our lounge.One of the forum moderators (John) has had some very good things to say about the citizenship ceremony his wife and daughter attended when they became British citizens. So I would suggest that you enjoy what should be a very special event for you.
So I would say rayd ... don't fight it .. enjoy it!
Quite. But the problem goes back to the way that the British Nationality Act did not make such good provision for children born outside the United Kingdom to "Crown Servants". This was changed in later Acts.rayd wrote: Having lived in the UK for over 50 years and only found out recently I wasn't a citizen because both father and grandfather were in the services, I'm not very happy that I've had to pay £188 to be what I should always have been and now have to undergo a ceremony for
Definitely not. You will need a British citizen passport.My passport still has 5 years left on it but says British Subject with ROA. Once I get my citizenship bit of paper, do I need to get my passport changed (£66) or can I keep it as it is and wave my new bit of paper at various immigration officials?
It won't apply to you once you have a British citizen passport, but the way to deal with this kind of behaviour is to insist on speaking to a supervisor and failing that, make a formal complaint to the Home Office.(particularly at Stansted where they insist that, although my passport says BS and ROA, I have to go through the aliens gate!)
You absolutely need a British citizen passport for visa-free entry both to Canada and the United States. A British subject passport with ROA is not acceptable - not even if you also had a full British citizenship certificate.We want to go to Canada for a holiday in the autumn. Will I be treated as a BC for visa purposes, or just a BS as that is what my current passport says?
Not necessarily in "rayd's" case because since he is changing status from British subject to British citizen, they will probably treat it as a first time passport application rather than a renewal.Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:If you are getting a new passport early, remember that they may possiblyadd 9 months of validity from the old passport to the duration of the new passport. (Check with them)