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dependent visa refused

Post by taurus_na » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:39 pm

hello
i applied from outside UK.
my visa refused only on one ground that i didnt provide our communication evidence :(
visa process was very quick i got response in 16 working days but unfortunately got refusal and have right of appeal in 28 days.

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Post by taurus_na » Sat Dec 14, 2013 3:43 pm

i am here only because i dont want anybody else do this mistake :(
please attach your communication evidence with dependent application.

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Post by shan101 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:33 pm

Thanks for sharing this, I am also going to apply for my wife very soon and keeping all my communication records.
What else documents did you submit regarding proof of accommodation and income
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Post by MTZ510 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:35 pm

Interesting !

What kind of communication evidence one can provide ?

BTW if some one has applied fro T-1 visa outside UK and is living with his spouse then ?

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Post by awais 882000 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:51 pm

For proof of communication u can provide international calling cards telephone bills printout of Skype calling record .e mails etc

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Post by taurus_na » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:20 pm

Hello forum please help me,
What you suggest guys what i should prefer, Paper or oral Hearing?
And do we both need to provide fresh bank statements with appeal?
Secondly do i hv option to file my appeal in country or i have to appeal
United Kingdom?
Most important Pleaseeee tell me processing time ??? :(

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Post by MTZ510 » Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:37 pm

taurus_na wrote:Hello forum please help me,
What you suggest guys what i should prefer, Paper or oral Hearing?
And do we both need to provide fresh bank statements with appeal?
Secondly do i hv option to file my appeal in country or i have to appeal
United Kingdom?
Most important Pleaseeee tell me processing time ??? :(
1- Oral Hearing

2- No

3- With refusal you also get appeal form, read it where you can file the appeal. In my opinion appeals are only heard in UK and it takes at least 6 months for a hearing.

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Post by babylondoner » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:33 pm

Why not just reapply and provide the proof of communication?

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Post by MTZ510 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:00 am

babylondoner wrote:Why not just reapply and provide the proof of communication?
What will you do if they refuse again on some other grounds ? you have any idea how much it costs for reapplying? overseas high commission are money making institutions for UKBA they refuse on most simple grounds.

I would have appealed against the decision. i assume that the relevant documents (like marriage certificates, N.I.C and child registration etc etc ) were submitted to prove the relationship.

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Post by shan101 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:39 am

Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
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Post by babylondoner » Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:06 am

shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
EXACTLY!!

The annoying part is the waiting time. He is better off reapplying and covering all loose ends in his application. Don't forget to include pictures of both of you as well. They are known to refuse for that as well. In summary, provide as much documents as possible and do not rely on the 'standard' list of required documents stated on UKBA's website.

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Post by taurus_na » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:42 am

i already had provided weddings pictures,nikkah nama translated and registered with NADRA , orignal version in urdu.
my submission to BHC my husbands declaration but................................................... finally got refusal :(
anyways im going to appeal againt ths decision

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Post by taurus_na » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:46 am

helloooo rehan rizwaaaaan tuliproooz where are u aaalllll:(
please suggest me what i do papers or oral hearing which will take less time??

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Post by junaid123 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:50 am

how much appeal costs?

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Post by shan101 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:25 pm

taurus_na wrote:i already had provided weddings pictures,nikkah nama translated and registered with NADRA , orignal version in urdu.
my submission to BHC my husbands declaration but................................................... finally got refusal :(
anyways im going to appeal againt ths decision
Wish you best for your appeal
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Post by taurus_na » Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:48 pm

80 pounds for paper hearing and 140 pounds for oral hearing...
i am going for paper heaing,i dont have objection that i need oral hearing to proof .

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Post by Olasunkanmi » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:17 pm

@ taurus_na, how long have you been married to your spouse and have you guys live together at all?
The key to success is knowledge and hardwork, and to have faith.

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Post by Olasunkanmi » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:27 pm

@ taurus_na, as babylondoner suggested its better you correct all the mistake and re-apply as its faster. But if you prefer to appeal, oral hearing is better if your partner is already in UK as there is no need for a lawyer as you guys just need to proof to the judge that you are married and that you can support yourself in UK. The refusal reason is very trivial and judge will definitely throw it out and give judgement in your favour.
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Post by MTZ510 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:30 pm

shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
Please check your facts, do not mislead people over here.

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Post by MTZ510 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:37 pm

taurus_na wrote:80 pounds for paper hearing and 140 pounds for oral hearing...
i am going for paper heaing,i dont have objection that i need oral hearing to proof .
I would recommend oral hearing. Your husband can appear before judge, you have got a strong case unless its the case of ruksati only.

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Post by babylondoner » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:42 pm

MTZ510 wrote:
shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
Please check your facts, do not mislead people over here.
He is not misleading him.

If the OP is to appeal using a lawyer, he's gonna part away with at least £1,000. Some lawyers charge much, much higher.

I was refused in June and my hearing was original scheduled for April 2014. That's 9months waiting time.

By the time he's done with the appeal process, he would have barely 2yrs left in his visa which is going to be the same duration issued to his dependant.

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Post by MTZ510 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:59 pm

babylondoner wrote:
MTZ510 wrote:
shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
Please check your facts, do not mislead people over here.
He is not misleading him.

If the OP is to appeal using a lawyer, he's gonna part away with at least £1,000. Some lawyers charge much, much higher.

I was refused in June and my hearing was original scheduled for April 2014. That's 9months waiting time.

By the time he's done with the appeal process, he would have barely 2yrs left in his visa which is going to be the same duration issued to his dependant.
I know appeal takes six to eight months and if some one is not ready to wait that long then he/she can opt for reapplying, but you do not need a lawyer to appeal a simple case like this one. You can't say that cost of reapplying and cost of appealing is same, many applicants even hire services of consultants to apply and many of us just do it by our selves.

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Post by shan101 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:31 pm

MTZ510 wrote:
shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
Please check your facts, do not mislead people over here.
Please read and understand the post before you misguide someone and make some ones life difficult. She stated (1) Only one reason of refusal which is "no evidence of communication".
(2) She also stated the visa response was very quick which means she can get visa in few days after re submitting the evidence.
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Post by MTZ510 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:41 pm

shan101 wrote:
MTZ510 wrote:
shan101 wrote:Appeal would also cost the same as fresh application plus 6 to 8 months waiting time. Therefore better to re apply and submit the missing documents
Please check your facts, do not mislead people over here.
Please read and understand the post before you misguide someone and make some ones life difficult. She stated (1) Only one reason of refusal which is "no evidence of communication".
(2) She also stated the visa response was very quick which means she can get visa in few days after re submitting the evidence.
So i am misguiding!

Can u please elaborate?

I know reapplying is faster as i belong to the same country from where she is applying but i know one more thing which you might not know. There are many applicants who were refused in first application on certain grounds by Islamabad High commission, the applicants reapplied by removing those mistakes then ....... then they were again refused this time on some other grounds ..... Sounds interesting isn't it !

You should read my post that if someone is not ready to wait for 6 months then they can reapply otherwise best course is to appeal, because in appeal they cannot refuse on any other ground. All she had to do is to prove her relationship.

And yes..... the cost of reapplying is 8 times the cost of appeal..

Thanks

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Post by shan101 » Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:49 pm

MTZ510 wrote:
babylondoner wrote:Why not just reapply and provide the proof of communication?
What will you do if they refuse again on some other grounds ? you have any idea how much it costs for reapplying? overseas high commission are money making institutions for UKBA they refuse on most simple grounds.

I would have appealed against the decision. i assume that the relevant documents (like marriage certificates, N.I.C and child registration etc etc ) were submitted to prove the relationship.
She is not asking for "how to prove relationship" but rather asking for proof of communication. Read the top of the thread again please. Also there is no need of submitting N.I.C when applying as dependent of Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa. Over seas HC are not money making institutions for UKBA, its the same UKBA every where in the world. its only because they are reducing net migration so its comparatively difficult to get visa from overseas.
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