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Visa applicants entering Schengen to give prints

Post by Dawie » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:27 pm

The Civil Liberties Committee gave its go-ahead on Tuesday to a draft regulation requiring Member States in the Schengen area to take the facial image and ten fingerprints from visa applicants wishing to enter EU territory. However, MEPs voted for a number of exemptions for children and diplomats as well as for stricter data protection.
It was just a matter of time really, wasn't it!

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/expe ... ult_es.htm
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Post by geoffsinclair » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:30 pm

They will only receive two fingerprints from me! :P
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Post by Dawie » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:32 pm

They'll get the finger from me, but no fingerprint...
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Post by Administrator » Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:42 am

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Interesting development.

Any other news & links you guys run across, please post. We'd like to do a news story on this item, and update our website.

Thanks!

Japan just enacted a similar regulation:

Japan to fingerprint visitors and foreign residents
19 November 2007

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Post by Richard66 » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:15 pm

Big Brother! How I love Big Brother!

And all this is really to protect us from criminals. Pshaw! Maybe next they might think it's a good idea to brand each of us with an ID number.
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Post by Wanderer » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:18 pm

Richard66 wrote:Big Brother! How I love Big Brother!

And all this is really to protect us from criminals. Pshaw! Maybe next they might think it's a good idea to brand each of us with an ID number.
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Post by Fairtrade » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:39 pm

HMRC's loss of 25 million records is evidence that the government can not be trusted with biometric information, and the UK national ID scheme is untenable..
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Post by mym » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:39 pm

Presumably this will not apply to visa applicants already in the EU (as they are not entering) - though they will ask of course...
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Post by Dawie » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:32 am

mym wrote:Presumably this will not apply to visa applicants already in the EU (as they are not entering) - though they will ask of course...
As usual, when the press publish anything to do with "EU" immigration policy, you can assume that they mean "Schengen" immigration policy. Despite over a decade of Schengen the general public still seem unable to distinguish the two.
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Post by Richard66 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:04 pm

As usual, when the press publish anything to do with "EU" immigration policy, you can assume that they mean "Schengen" immigration policy. Despite over a decade of Schengen the general public still seem unable to distinguish the two.
It's not only the general public, I'm afraid. The Citizen's Signpost Service also confuses both.
HMRC's loss of 25 million records is evidence that the government can not be trusted with biometric information, and the UK national ID scheme is untenable..
It's beyond me how people in the UK have not taken to the streets to oppose the scheme to create the greatest police state in history. I have a good mind when the time comes to refuse to give the information they request. I'd love to see what happens.

They do all this for the UK visas and then announce prodly that maybe 10 visa requests were not even fraudulent, but from people who has already applied before. No numbers were given, but it was clear it was not significative. So now, people who live in Magadan (almost across the Bering Strait) Will ned to travel to Moscow to apply for Schengen visas. Won't it just be simpler to forbid people to travel?

Now, suppose all this is done and someone cracks the computer code and changes your fingerprints for those of someone else, some wanted person, while this wanted person becomes you? Creepy, isn't it? Fingerprints don't lie...
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