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Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Only for UK Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) points system. This route is now closed to new applicants.

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Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by nish_patel7 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:06 pm

Can I switch from Tier 1 PSW Route to Tier 4 for Post Graduate Degree? bcecause I am founding it difficult to invest 50k as my business is running in loss and I cant afford lose any more money. And I only got 2 years left to apply for ILR 10 years route. So if I go for the student I can complete the 10 years in UK. Only question is that is it allowed to switch by law?

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by speshow » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:18 pm

nish_patel7 wrote:Can I switch from Tier 1 PSW Route to Tier 4 for Post Graduate Degree? bcecause I am founding it difficult to invest 50k as my business is running in loss and I cant afford lose any more money. And I only got 2 years left to apply for ILR 10 years route. So if I go for the student I can complete the 10 years in UK. Only question is that is it allowed to switch by law?
hi guys,

I think you can't swich to T4 .

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by CR001 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:23 pm

Switching to Tier 4 (click)

Also depends on previous study and if you have reached the cap and if you can show 'progression'.
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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by zimba » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:31 pm

You can switch from Tier 1 PSW to Tier 4 but how is this relevant to Tier 1E forum ????
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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by seasky » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:39 pm

zimba88 wrote:You can switch from Tier 1 PSW to Tier 4 but how is this relevant to Tier 1E forum ????
he/she means from T1E 50K route (mentions not wanting to actually invest....)

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by zimba » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:47 pm

seasky wrote:
zimba88 wrote:You can switch from Tier 1 PSW to Tier 4 but how is this relevant to Tier 1E forum ????
he/she means from T1E 50K route (mentions not wanting to actually invest....)
Well he says Tier 1 PSW in his question. Switching from Tier 1E to Tier 4 is not allowed.
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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by seasky » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:57 pm

Nish,

Most businesses run at loss initially (cashflow negative for sure no matter how you define P&L), that is why investment is needed. Seems you have to focus on making your business work.

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by nish_patel7 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:51 am

Sorry for the confusion, I am Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa holder with 50k route, and also if I cant apply for student visa can my wife apply for student? She is on dependant visa with me. Thanks

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by zimba » Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:21 pm

nish_patel7 wrote:Sorry for the confusion, I am Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa holder with 50k route, and also if I cant apply for student visa can my wife apply for student? She is on dependant visa with me. Thanks
No. Both of you must apply from outside.
You are not allowed to switch to Tier 4 and your dependants are not allowed to switch to any PBS category.
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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by nish_patel7 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:11 am

So if my wife who is on dependant visa currently goes back to India and apply for Student visa from there and come back will she be able to apply for ILR 10 years route?

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by zimba » Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:45 am

nish_patel7 wrote:So if my wife who is on dependant visa currently goes back to India and apply for Student visa from there and come back will she be able to apply for ILR 10 years route?
Depends on when her visa runs out. A dependant visa holder is allowed to study in the UK (as well as a Tier 1E visa holder) It make no sense for her to go back with a valid dependant visa and apply for Tier 4 again while you are here. UKVI will highly likely reject her application and investigate you both as it will be obvious that you want to just stay in the UK by gaming the system.
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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by mohammed1980 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:05 pm

nish_patel7 wrote:Can I switch from Tier 1 PSW Route to Tier 4 for Post Graduate Degree? bcecause I am founding it difficult to invest 50k as my business is running in loss and I cant afford lose any more money. And I only got 2 years left to apply for ILR 10 years route. So if I go for the student I can complete the 10 years in UK. Only question is that is it allowed to switch by law?
I had inquired about this option and I was told I can switch if I am progressing academically, means joining PhD after Masters, but the visa cannot be applied from within the UK. You have to go back to your country and apply, in which case you lose all the previous years and cannot apply for ILR.

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by rsrameshsunil » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:19 pm

zimba88 wrote:
nish_patel7 wrote:So if my wife who is on dependant visa currently goes back to India and apply for Student visa from there and come back will she be able to apply for ILR 10 years route?
Depends on when her visa runs out. A dependant visa holder is allowed to study in the UK (as well as a Tier 1E visa holder) It make no sense for her to go back with a valid dependant visa and apply for Tier 4 again while you are here. UKVI will highly likely reject her application and investigate you both as it will be obvious that you want to just stay in the UK by gaming the system.
if the dependent is a genuine student and can prove this with her previous degree and relevant work experience and or interests. Or acedamically progressive and some sort of pre-research evidences like paper presentation etc and she is opting for research based degrees forexample. I dont think they can reject the application. Especially if her current visa is running out now.

It will just be a decision on balance of probablities. In such above scenario as i mentioned its highly likely the applicant is a genuine student. Otherwise if its just a random taught course or no relevance with no acedemic progression they might interview and decide on balance of probablities.

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Re: Switching from Tier 1 to Tier 4 Student

Post by CR001 » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:44 pm

mohammed1980 wrote:I had inquired about this option and I was told I can switch if I am progressing academically, means joining PhD after Masters, but the visa cannot be applied from within the UK. You have to go back to your country and apply, in which case you lose all the previous years and cannot apply for ILR.
Absolute nonsense. Who told you this or where did you 'hear' it?
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