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Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by davethebox » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:50 pm

Hello everyone - I've found your site when searching about language requirements.

I've had a good search on this site, or so I think, about determining if a PGCE (from a UK University) is considered sufficient for the language requirement. Some replies to questions say - it's sufficient. Some are unclear.

The GOV website specifically states "degrees". A PGCE can only be studied if you have a degree.

My wife had to prove her language skiils before being accepted on the course and has now been teaching for 25 years.

Has anyone any clear knowledge that a PGCE is sufficient? Paying £150 for the pleasure of talking to someone seems crazy.

Many thanks and I look forward to contributing to this site in the future.

Davethebox

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by CR001 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:58 pm

What is PGCE?

If she has a degree, why not use that if UK issued. If not, do ELA from NARIC.

What is her nationality and how old is she?
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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by LilyLalilu » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:05 am

From a logical point of view it should be accepted as this award is higher on the Framework for Higher Education Qualifications of UK Degree-Awarding Bodies than a Bachelor's degree (which is accepted by HO). BA is a qualification at Level 6, whereas a PGCE is at Level 7.
However, best to check with the HO as they don't always seem to be following common sense :lol:
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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by noajthan » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:22 am

davethebox wrote:Hello everyone - I've found your site when searching about language requirements.

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Has anyone any clear knowledge that a PGCE is sufficient? Paying £150 for the pleasure of talking to someone seems crazy.

Many thanks and I look forward to contributing to this site in the future.

Davethebox
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Applicants holding a post-graduate diploma, or a graduate diploma from a UK university, are considered to have the required level of English for a settlement or citizenship application.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -v19.0.pdf
- ref page 37
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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by davethebox » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:13 pm

Thank you all for your advice - tihs makes sense.

I should have said that a PGCE is a Post Graduate Certificate in Education. It's a years course AFTER completing a degree. My wife took her degree abroad but then had to prove her English skills before she was accepted onto the PGCE.

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by neerajagarwal » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:15 pm

Hi there,

Did this work for you as we are in the exact same boat with my wife having done her PGCE here in the UK but her first degree abroad.

Many thanks.

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by mickypgce » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:28 am

Did you all have your citizenship with your PGCE qualification as proof of English? I am doing mine now, and people seem to have different views on this!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profess ... _Education


This tells me it is completely valid!

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by Twyll » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:44 pm

I'm facing the same problem. HAs anyone received any answer rregarding that issue?

I have a PGCE, but no previous degree done in the UK.

Would the PGCE count as a degree as evidence towards the language requirements?

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by Alba1984 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm

Hi!
I am also going through this process of applying and only have my PGCE certificate (degree from Spain). Has anyone been able to present their PGCE as proof of English please?

Any information will be very welcome!!!
Thanks!

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by CR001 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:13 pm

Alba1984 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:10 pm
Hi!
I am also going through this process of applying and only have my PGCE certificate (degree from Spain). Has anyone been able to present their PGCE as proof of English please?

Any information will be very welcome!!!
Thanks!
If yours is from Spain, it won't meet the requirement. The rules state it must be a UK university issued PGCE.
noajthan wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:22 am
I think you've smashed it. This may float your boat:
Applicants holding a post-graduate diploma, or a graduate diploma from a UK university, are considered to have the required level of English for a settlement or citizenship application.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... -v19.0.pdf
- ref page 37
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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by gambag » Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:20 am

A PGCE taught in the UK is a valid and accepted certificate for proving your level of English. The government website states that the certificate must be "a qualification that is equivalent to a UK Bachelors or Master’s degree". You will notice from their website ( https://www.gov.uk/what-different-quali ... ion-levels ) that the PGCE is considered a level 7 certificate, which is the same level as a Masters degree, hence should be accepted. This was confirmed over the phone to me when I spoke to the Home Office. I am therefore applying using my PGCE certificate.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Citizenship - Language requirements - PGCE

Post by Jos37 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:43 pm

Hello, just wondering if gambag you managed to use your PGCE as a proof. That would really help me.
Many thanks
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