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Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:47 pm

Hi guys,

I am trying to find an adequate accommodation before I apply for my wife's visa application.
I have found a double room in a 3 bedroom house reasonably priced, I will be sharing the house with a tenant and her 2 boys. The current tenant lived there for 7 years.

Can the current tenant sign my tenancy agreement as she is renting the whole house? The council tax bill is under the landlord's name not the current tenant.

Can she also write the letter to confirm that she is happy for my wife to live with me there?

Do I still have to submit a house inspection report?

If you guys confirm that this property is adequate for the spouse visa I can get my payslips and my bank statement changed to the address along with my GP, driving licence and register to vote at the address.

Please guys do let me know whether to go a head and move into this house or not!

Many thanks in advanced.

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Casa » Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:29 pm

Mrere wrote:Hi guys,

I am trying to find an adequate accommodation before I apply for my wife's visa application.
I have found a double room in a 3 bedroom house reasonably priced, I will be sharing the house with a tenant and her 2 boys. The current tenant lived there for 7 years.

Can the current tenant sign my tenancy agreement as she is renting the whole house? The council tax bill is under the landlord's name not the current tenant. No, as this would be sub-letting. You need written permission from the legal landlord for you and your wife to live in the property.

Can she also write the letter to confirm that she is happy for my wife to live with me there? Yes but it won't mean anything much without the written agreement from the landlord.

Do I still have to submit a house inspection report? Yes for multiple occupancy

If you guys confirm that this property is adequate for the spouse visa I can get my payslips and my bank statement changed to the address along with my GP, driving licence and register to vote at the address.

Please guys do let me know whether to go a head and move into this house or not! That's your decision, no one can make it for you. Wait to see whether the landlord will give permission first. I assume it's not owned by the local authority (Council)

Many thanks in advanced.
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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:41 pm

Casa wrote:
Mrere wrote:Hi guys,

I am trying to find an adequate accommodation before I apply for my wife's visa application.
I have found a double room in a 3 bedroom house reasonably priced, I will be sharing the house with a tenant and her 2 boys. The current tenant lived there for 7 years.

Can the current tenant sign my tenancy agreement as she is renting the whole house? The council tax bill is under the landlord's name not the current tenant. No, as this would be sub-letting. You need written permission from the legal landlord for you and your wife to live in the property.

Can she also write the letter to confirm that she is happy for my wife to live with me there? Yes but it won't mean anything much without the written agreement from the landlord.

Do I still have to submit a house inspection report? Yes for multiple occupancy

If you guys confirm that this property is adequate for the spouse visa I can get my payslips and my bank statement changed to the address along with my GP, driving licence and register to vote at the address.

Please guys do let me know whether to go a head and move into this house or not! That's your decision, no one can make it for you. Wait to see whether the landlord will give permission first. I assume it's not owned by the local authority (Council)

Many thanks in advanced.
Thank you so much Casa for your detailed response.

As far as I know the house is a free hold not a council property.

I will get in touch with the current tenant to check the possibility to get a tenancy agreement from the landlord himself.

Once again thank you so much for being so helpful and supportive.

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Casa » Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:59 pm

You don't necessarily need a tenancy agreement from the landlord in your name, but you do need written permission from them for you and your wife to live there with the current tenant.

The accommodation should be adequate if it is a 3-bedroom property and you and your wife have your own room. I'm assuming the two sons share a bedroom.

Just be wary of one thing. There are unscrupulous tenants who rent a property from the local authority and then sub-let it unlawfully. You mention that the council tax is in the landlord's name, so it would be prudent to double check that the landlord actually owns the property and isn't paying rent to the council, while living elsewhere.

Forewarned is forearmed!
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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:20 pm

Casa wrote:You don't necessarily need a tenancy agreement from the landlord in your name, but you do need written permission from them for your and your wife to live there with the current tenant.

The accommodation should be adequate if it is a 3-bedroom property and you and your wife have your own room. I'm assuming the two sons share a bedroom.

Just be wary of one thing. There are unscrupulous tenants who rent a property from the local authority and then sub-let it unlawfully. You mention that the council tax is in the landlord's name, so it would be prudent to double check that the landlord actually owns the property and isn't paying rent to the council, while living elsewhere.

Forewarned is forearmed!
Many thanks Casa for your valuelble advice, much much appreciated.

I will for sure check with the council to verify whether the house is a freehold or not.
Will keep you updated.

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Casa » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:28 pm

Don't confuse 'freehold' as meaning not owned by the Council.
Property can be freehold or leasehold in private ownership.
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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:41 pm

Casa wrote:Don't confuse 'freehold' as meaning not owned by the Council.
Property can be freehold or leasehold in private ownership.
Many thanks Casa for your highly valuable response.

I have managed to speak with the landlord in person and he is happy to write me a formal letter stating that he has no objection for my wife and I to stay at his property with the current tenant, we will be using the loft as the it's a 2 bed room house, the first floor containes a big setting room and big Spam, 2 bedrooms on the 2nd floor for the current tenant, his wife and his son. The loft will be mine and hopefully my wife.

The current tenant has been living there for 3 years and he never used the loft as he has enough space for his small family.

The the landlord will give a tenancy agreement with the current tenant's name and mine and of course a formal letter to confirm that he is happy for my wife to stay with me at his property.
I will also have to get a property inspection report form the local authority or from an estate agent.

My bank statement, my payslip and my driving licence will be registry at the new address.

Would that be classed as an adequate accommodation? And would the three proof of address is sufficient ? Have I missed anything?

Please let me know.

Many thanks in advance.
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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Casa » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:51 pm

Only the result of the property inspection will confirm whether the accommodation is adequate and if the 'loft' will be suitable as a bedroom. No one can give you that assurance on the forum.
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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:15 pm

Casa wrote:Only the result of the property inspection will confirm whether the accommodation is adequate and if the 'loft' will be suitable as a bedroom. No one can give you that assurance on the forum.
Hi Casa,

Got the house inspection report today
here are the room measurements as shown in the report :

Reception room
3.06m x 3.14m

Bedroom one
3.27m x 3.08m

Bedroom two
3.94m x 3.05m

Bedroom three
3.91m x 3.40m

It is our belief that the accommodation affords sufficient space within the dwelling for all occupants. We confirm that the occupancy will not infringe upon the space standards as set out under Part X of the Housing Act 1985 should the application succeed. We trust the above information is of help and should you require any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact our office.


According to the report, the house can be shared by up to 8 occupants, currently we are four living there and my wife once she gets her spouse visa will be the fifth.

As a proof of address I will be submitting the following:

A 12 month tenancy agreement ( joint names, the current tenant and myself).
The house inspection report.
The last 6 month Bank statement, only the last one will be with the new address.
The last 6 payslips, only the last one will be with the new address.
Driving licence with the new address.
Also, I will register to vote at the new address.

There is no utility bills under my name as they are under the current tenant's name as he has been living there for almost 3 years.

Are the above documents enough?

Please let me know.

Many thanks.

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Mrere » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:39 pm

Any help guys please!

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Spouse visa, accommodation documents

Post by Mrere » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:50 pm

Dear Esteemed members,

I am sharing a 3 bedroom house with another tenant, his wife and his son.
The tenancy agreement I have is in joint names, my name and the other tenant's name.

I have got a property inspection report to confirm that the commendation is adequate.

We will be submitting the following for The accommodation :

Tenancy agreement in joint names.
Letter from the landlord.
Last bank statement showing the address.
Last payslip.
Driving license to confirm the address.

No utility bills

Is the above documents are sufficient for the accommodation specially no utility bills will be submitted ?

Thanks a lot guys for your help.

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Re: Spouse visa, accommodation documents

Post by Mrere » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:14 pm

Sorry to keep repeating myself.

I understand that the tenancy agreement is not needed as the landlord will provide a letter.

Could you please confirm that if I do submit the joint tenancy agreement to show how much I will be paying monthly would it have any impact on the application outcome? I mean would it work in my favour or not?

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Re: Spouse visa, accommodation documents

Post by Mrere » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:01 am

Hi All,

Just received the landlord's letter today, the letter states that the house comprises 2 bedroom, 2 separate receptions, 2 bathrooms, loft extension conservatory and a garden.
While the housing inspection report stated the house has 3 bedroom not 2 as the inspector treated the loft as a bedroom. Would this cause any issue!

Also, in the tenancy agreement, both my friend (the current tenant) and I renting the house for £1250 per month, I am paying for a room £500 per month (not stated in the tenancy agreement) do I have to declare the amount I am paying anywhere in the application?

Please guys get back to me ASAP.

Thanks a lot.

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Re: Spouse visa, accommodation documents

Post by Mrere » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:12 pm

Mrere wrote:Hi All,

Just received the landlord's letter today, the letter states that the house comprises 2 bedroom, 2 separate receptions, 2 bathrooms, loft extension conservatory and a garden.
While the housing inspection report stated the house has 3 bedroom not 2 as the inspector treated the loft as a bedroom. Would this cause any issue!

Also, in the tenancy agreement, both my friend (the current tenant) and I renting the house for £1250 per month, I am paying for a room £500 per month (not stated in the tenancy agreement) do I have to declare the amount I am paying anywhere in the application?

Please guys get back to me ASAP.

Thanks a lot.
Please moderators, I really need your advice.

Thanks a lot

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Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:29 am

Hi,
I am sharing accommodation with friend, his wife and his son. The tenancy agreement in both my friend (the current tenant) and I, the rent is £1250 per month, I am paying for a room £500 per month (not stated in the tenancy agreement) do I have to declare the amount I am paying anywhere in the application?

As I am sharing the accommodation I have to submit a house inspection report and provide a letter from the house owner. Got the landlord's letter, the letter states that the house comprises 2 bedroom, 2 separate receptions, 2 bathrooms, loft extension conservatory and a garden.
While the housing inspection report stated that the house has 3 bedroom not 2 as the inspector treated the loft as a bedroom. Would this cause any issue!

You response will be much appreciated.

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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:48 pm

Thanks Casa for pointing out my previous posts, unfortunately non of the above answers my queries. Please help me with the last post.
Many thanks

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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:05 pm

Mrere wrote:Thanks Casa for pointing out my previous posts, unfortunately non of the above answers my queries. Please help me with the last post.
Many thanks
I will be so grateful if anyone could answer my query as soon as possible. I have been very honest, I can't find the answers anywhere so please guys advise me!

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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by CR001 » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:29 pm

You cannot submit two different documents that say two different things.

You only need a letter from landlord stating the applicant will be permitted to live there. Property inspection report is required if you do not live there exclusively and when other non related people share the property to prove to HO that it is not overcrowded.
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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:45 pm

CR001 wrote:You cannot submit two different documents that say two different things.

You only need a letter from landlord stating the applicant will be permitted to live there. Property inspection report is required if you do not live there exclusively and when other non related people share the property to prove to HO that it is not overcrowded.
Many thanks CR001 for your much appreciated response, you are a life saver.

In regards to the tenancy agreement, the total monthly rent is £1250, I am paying £500 as a single person while my friend pays £750, do I have to mention this in the tenancy agreement or in the application!

Please let me know.

Thanks

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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Casa » Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:52 pm

The Case Worker won't be interested in the slightest how much rent you're paying, or how you split it with the other tenant.
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Re: Spouse application, shared accommodation

Post by Mrere » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:52 pm

Casa wrote:The Case Worker won't be interested in the slightest how much rent you're paying, or how you split it with the other tenant.
Many thanks Casa for you help.
All the best.

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by AbdulZ » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:29 pm

Hello Mere,

Could you please share your experience of applying for your wife, as I am in the same boat.

Best Regards,

Urgent response would be appreciated.

Regards,
Abdul

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Re: Spouse visa accommodation

Post by Casa » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:37 pm

AbdulZ wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:29 pm
Hello Mere,

Could you please share your experience of applying for your wife, as I am in the same boat.

Best Regards,

Urgent response would be appreciated.

Regards,
Abdul
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