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No, they are not the same thing. A sponsor assigns a CoS. The applicant applies for a visa.nz6666 wrote:Isn't awarding a cos meaning they agree to give me Tier 2?
How many applicants were there and how many interviewed?nz6666 wrote:yes they put out the job ad for a month, before getting me the cos. Isn't this the prerequisite for cos? I thought getting cos is the most difficult part, no?
They put very high requirement in the Ad so that no body dare to apply. They told me they didn't receive any applications.noajthan wrote: How many applicants were there and how many interviewed?
Its not as simple as placing an ad, ignoring everyone and giving you the job.
If they have constructed the RLMT to exclude everyone except you, then you are clearly 'pre-selected'. You still have to apply for the visa, so nothing is guaranteed and HO can still take their time and look into the whole process your sponsor has followed.nz6666 wrote:They put very high requirement in the Ad so that no body dare to apply. They told me they didn't receive any applications.noajthan wrote: How many applicants were there and how many interviewed?
Its not as simple as placing an ad, ignoring everyone and giving you the job.
Actually applying for cos got refused several times (or so they told me) for different reasons. E.g. one time it got refused because I got salary increased just before the application of the cos, and later home office requested my pay slips, so the pay slips are with new salary and didn't match what's in the application. The other time is HR lady told me she didn't see the home office email for my pay slips (yes I was mad).
So I finally got the cos in Sept and thought the most difficult part has passed?
Tier 2 does not exist to deliver your dream job to you at the exclusion of every other willing, able and qualified/experienced candidate in the whole of UK and EU.nz6666 wrote:They put very high requirement in the Ad so that no body dare to apply. They told me they didn't receive any applications.noajthan wrote: How many applicants were there and how many interviewed?
Its not as simple as placing an ad, ignoring everyone and giving you the job.
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So I finally got the cos in Sept and thought the most difficult part has passed?
Mahir1108 wrote:A Quick question to nz6666
When the CoS was assigned then did you company show the RLMT they conducted.
Do the Home Office check at the RLMT again at the time of candidate application.
So my RLMT has been carried out and was successful because I have been allocated a cos?Mahir1108 wrote: As far as I know if the RLMT is not successful the they will not allot a CoS isn't it ?
No, my company didn't exclude anyone suitable for my role. Like I said my company put an ad with very high requirement for others but not for me. Why? I have been on that role for 2 years (on Tier 4 dependant, legally) so I have learnt everything related to that role. This is an IT role and involves many technologies which I gradually mastered during the two years. Some of the technologies are not very easy to find a suitable candidate on the market. Do you think my company decided to sponsor me because they liked me? No, because it will be hard for them to find another suitable one, and there will be probation, training etc. There may be very few people who have all the skills available but they simply didn't apply for that role in that month.noajthan wrote: Tier 2 does not exist to deliver your dream job to you at the exclusion of every other willing, able and qualified/experienced candidate in the whole of UK and EU.
This demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the Tier 2 route and is the road to sponsor license revocation.
Exactly, you have therefore been 'pre-selected' for the role.nz6666 wrote:No, my company didn't exclude anyone suitable for my role. Like I said my company put an ad with very high requirement for others but not for me. Why? I have been on that role for 2 years (on Tier 4 dependant, legally) so I have learnt everything related to that role. This is an IT role and involves many technologies which I gradually mastered during the two years. Some of the technologies are not very easy to find a suitable candidate on the market. Do you think my company decided to sponsor me because they liked me? No, because it will be hard for them to find another suitable one, and there will be probation, training etc. There may be very few people who have all the skills available but they simply didn't apply for that role in that month.
2 years work experience in IT is not so unique. Hard to believe you are only candidate in Europe who can fulfill such a role.nz6666 wrote:No, my company didn't exclude anyone suitable for my role. Like I said my company put an ad with very high requirement for others but not for me. Why? I have been on that role for 2 years (on Tier 4 dependant, legally) so I have learnt everything related to that role. This is an IT role and involves many technologies which I gradually mastered during the two years. Some of the technologies are not very easy to find a suitable candidate on the market. Do you think my company decided to sponsor me because they liked me? No, because it will be hard for them to find another suitable one, and there will be probation, training etc. There may be very few people who have all the skills available but they simply didn't apply for that role in that month.
No no , you got me wrong. I said I worked two years in this company but I have worked more than 10 years before that.noajthan wrote: 2 years work experience in IT is not so unique. Hard to believe you are only candidate in Europe who can fulfill such a role.
And familiarity with the company and its idisoyncracies and workflows etc are not valid factors.
Nor are factors such as probation, training and you knowing where the coffee machine is.
HO will be digging into this, especially as you are an in-house 'candidate'.
If anything that sets you at a disadvantage.
ok i am pre selected but i guess it's not practical for my company to fire me first then run the rlmt. I think the policy doesn't cover every case and it's impossible to do so. Anyway, it's up to the home office to decide. Finger crossed.CR001 wrote: Exactly, you have therefore been 'pre-selected' for the role.
That's fine.nz6666 wrote:No no , you got me wrong. I said I worked two years in this company but I have worked more than 10 years before that.
As long as your company followed this "You cannot refuse to employ a settled worker if they lack qualifications, experience or skills, including language skills that were not asked for in the job advertisement." you should be fine.nz6666 wrote:No, my company didn't exclude anyone suitable for my role. Like I said my company put an ad with very high requirement for others but not for me. Why? I have been on that role for 2 years (on Tier 4 dependant, legally) so I have learnt everything related to that role. This is an IT role and involves many technologies which I gradually mastered during the two years. Some of the technologies are not very easy to find a suitable candidate on the market. Do you think my company decided to sponsor me because they liked me? No, because it will be hard for them to find another suitable one, and there will be probation, training etc. There may be very few people who have all the skills available but they simply didn't apply for that role in that month.noajthan wrote: Tier 2 does not exist to deliver your dream job to you at the exclusion of every other willing, able and qualified/experienced candidate in the whole of UK and EU.
This demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the Tier 2 route and is the road to sponsor license revocation.
Sure, i will update.eduleal wrote:In any case, do keep us posted here, as it's always useful to know the outcome of cases like this.
yes, my case in the restricted category.Frontier Mole wrote:Some points to consider when looking at RLMT
In your case switching from tier 4 dependent to tier 2 general. Restricted COS
I am not sure on this. All I know is my company is already a Tier 2 sponsor before my case (they have applied for someone in India before). On my case they did do the rmlt (put out ad for 28 days). And then they got me the cos after that. I applied Tier 2 with the cos and waited 2 months and got approved.Frontier Mole wrote: There are three stages ...
