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Theoretical Question UK/Irish residency/citizenship

Post by Wanderer » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:14 pm

I know that Irish citizens are considered to automatically have ILR in UK, but is this reciprocated in Ireland to UK citizens?

And also can Irish citizens (having auto-ILR) become UK citizens under normal UK rules, i.e. after one year on ILR and if so, do they have to have five years residency in UK to do that?
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Re: Theoretical Question UK/Irish residency/citizenship

Post by CR001 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:16 pm

Wanderer wrote:I know that Irish citizens are considered to automatically have ILR in UK, but is this reciprocated in Ireland to UK citizens? Sort of yes. They have the same status as Irish if resident in ROI

And also can Irish citizens (having auto-ILR) become UK citizens under normal UK rules, i.e. after one year on ILR and if so, do they have to have five years residency in UK to do that? BC requires 5 years residence, not quick route for anyone, even Irish.
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Re: Theoretical Question UK/Irish residency/citizenship

Post by secret.simon » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:25 pm

Wanderer wrote:And also can Irish citizens (having auto-ILR) become UK citizens under normal UK rules, i.e. after one year on ILR and if so, do they have to have five years residency in UK to do that?
Wanderer, I don't know if you are pulling our collective leg on this. Surely you have been here on these forums for long enough to answer the questions.

British naturalisation requires both a minimum of five years (three if the spouse of a British citizen) residence in the UK AND settled status. So the Irish can not naturalise on arrival. They have to meet the other standard requirements just as a non-EEA citizen would have to.

Schedule I of the British Nationality Act 1981 for your reading pleasure.
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Re: Theoretical Question UK/Irish residency/citizenship

Post by Wanderer » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:48 am

secret.simon wrote:
Wanderer wrote:And also can Irish citizens (having auto-ILR) become UK citizens under normal UK rules, i.e. after one year on ILR and if so, do they have to have five years residency in UK to do that?
Wanderer, I don't know if you are pulling our collective leg on this. Surely you have been here on these forums for long enough to answer the questions.

British naturalisation requires both a minimum of five years (three if the spouse of a British citizen) residence in the UK AND settled status. So the Irish can not naturalise on arrival. They have to meet the other standard requirements just as a non-EEA citizen would have to.

Schedule I of the British Nationality Act 1981 for your reading pleasure.
No I'm not honestly, just I never thought much about UK/Ireland - half my family is Irish so just never really thought of it immigration-wise. We've always had Irish folks about the house pre-and-post-EU and whilst I'm aware of the historical connections and CTA etc, I've never considered Ireland or the Irish as 'foreign'!

I suspect I knew the answers just looking for validation. Also I was going to query how Irish auto-ILR stands up against the two-year rule for ILR to expire out of the country, and whether it's unfair to other nationalities, who hold the same permit - thinking about the Singaporean Grandmother here recently denied. Presumably ILR effectly never expires for an Irish person?
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Re: Theoretical Question UK/Irish residency/citizenship

Post by JAJ » Sun May 21, 2017 4:04 am

Wanderer wrote: Also I was going to query how Irish auto-ILR stands up against the two-year rule for ILR to expire out of the country, and whether it's unfair to other nationalities, who hold the same permit - thinking about the Singaporean Grandmother here recently denied. Presumably ILR effectly never expires for an Irish person?
As long as Common Travel Area rules don't change, an Irish citizen may resume residence in the United Kingdom on generally the same basis as before. Subject to any applicable waiting periods for benefits, home tuition fees, etc.
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