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by seasky » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:17 pm
Thank you Maam for the update,
No I did not see the PM (surprising as I do frequent the forum often).
I also checked my email (all PMs send an email to me) and the last PM I received was on the 3rd of Jan in regards to “business bank statement&corporation tax”. Maybe this PM was never sent (forgot to press send)?
If it was sent, can you share this PM here openly (I give permission) so that I and others can learn from it and what to do and not do on the forums. And also share the derogatory remarks I made following said warning that got me onto thin ice?
Specifically, Have I ever made a derogatory remark to any -specific- member of these forums? Have I ever not offered help to -any- forum member because she is a kebab entrepreneur?
I help T1Es (even those who clearly don't take entrepreneurship seriously) all the time. If one does not like the fact that I think (my allowed opinion) the UK should promote high end entrepreneurs (however one defines that), why not just put me on the “foe list”?
Does the moderator group want the t1e forum to only be populated by the low value entrepreneurs? (“I paid min wage, but forgot it went up by 5p/hr so didn't pay enough and was declined, so what do I do?")
T1e is very abused. HO says so, some moderators often say so, we see it on the forum.
Is saying that a corner shop is lower value to the UK than a tech startup against the Ts&Cs?
Here are my recent uses of the words Kebab or Corner shop:
I only once, ever, wrote the word “kebab”: (APR 15th 2017)
“If the UK wants top international entrepreneurs and not only Kebab guys it MUST adapt.”
I Also once REPLIED to a post that had the word Kebab but I did not write it myself. On 7th APR 2017:
“Zimba,
<quoting zimba>"Most low value restaurant/petrol station/post office/Kebab shop take over business plans will probably be rejected by Home Office"
Where is that data from?”
As such the one time I wrote the term “kebab” it was not derogatory, and if it was written once it could hardly be used as “first time we warn you, now you are –thin ice-“ ?
Which T&C did I break? (Following are two that might apply)
1. No negative comments about someone's nationality, race or religion. Never, I believe in full equality to all people and freedom of religion. Personally I don't like, nor see the relevance, that many bring up their religion on this forum ("I thank god/Allah/Jesus/Buddha/Jehovah for granting me my visa"), it has nothing to do with the visa process and I frequent other internet forums and don’t see it. But Have I once said something derogatory about another's religion/race/nationality. Never ever
2. No use of rude or inappropriate language. Have I ever used rude language?
One must always treat fellow posters with respect.
This is a bit tricky, and subjective, do I have to love what others are doing? To the extreme, if one posts that he hit his wife and his visa is on the line do I have to treat him with respect? At a personal level, yes, but can I say “those who hit their wives are unwanted immigrants” does that break this specific T&C?
I have disrespect for those killing the t1e route. We see it all the time "I have been in the UK 6 years, no idea what to do to stay, OK i'll be an entrepreneur, OK which cousin can I hire to meet the min requirements?"
But have I once shown disdain to any specific person based on their chosen profession?
I have shown disdain (and again -never personally!!!-) to a class of entrepreneurs.
Lastly, If you don’t like my style, you can put me on the ‘foe’ list. Better than shutting down a T1e member that has experience and contributes to all members questions (that I think I know the answer, no matter their level of entrepreneurship_)
I have to handle putting up with the ridiculousness of the t1e bureaucracy (I delayed my ILR by 3 months because of the most unimportant minutia, the fact my HMRC approved payroll SW does not show an unimportant data field). And I know that if T1e was full of the high value entrepreneurs it intended HO would not care. So if you are hurt by me using the term “kebab” deal with it (or put me on foe)
I will also be the first to admit that there is nothing wrong with a ‘small business visa route’ (whole separate discussion)
I will list my use of the word “corner shop” in subsequent post
