Applying for EU directive visa from another EU country

[Bobthemoggie]

Hi All

I would like to find out what are exact required documents for Visa for Ireland through EU Directive EC/38/2004, for dependent immediate family members (immediate ascendents)

i.e. I would like know what documents should be submitted at Type-C visa state (when you're planning to accompany/travel along EU citizen to the Ireland) & later after applying for EU1, once you're in the state.

The list on INIS website is not clear about- supporting documents apart from basic Mandatory documents viz- Passports, document proving family relation & proof of joint travel

It will be really great if somebody could advise on this

Cheers

[CR001]

Which country will the Type C application be made?

What is the relation to you of the applicant (assuming you are British)?

[max307]

Did you check the Explanatory Leaflets at the bottom of this page?

http://inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/EU%20Treaty%20Rights

[Bobthemoggie]

Which country will the Type C application be made?

What is the relation to you of the applicant (assuming you are British)?

- one of the mainland Continental European state in western Europe.

- applicants- dependent Ascendents

Kindly advise in this case.

[Bobthemoggie]

Did you check the Explanatory Leaflets at the bottom of this page?

http://inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/EU%20Treaty%20Rights

Thanks for your response.
Yes. I have seen above link & as well as this one:

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/INIS/Pages/Fa ... 20citizens

but then not clear on what exact documents that are required at visa application stage?
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The proofs that may be required are:
1. proof of identity e.g. valid passports for the applicant family member and the EU citizen,
2. proof of family link e.g. a valid marriage or birth certificate - this is so that the visa officer can ascertain that the applicant is a family member of the EU citizen,
3. where relevant, proof of dependency or membership of the household,
4. proof that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen is exercising free movement rights in Ireland e.g. proof that the EU/ EEA/Swiss citizen already resides in the State or a declaration or statement of confirmation that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen will be exercising those rights at the time of the applicant family member’s arrival in Ireland - this is so that the visa officer can ascertain that the applicant family member will be residing in the State together with the citizen concerned.]

I am not clear on point 4-- i.e. what should be submitted at visa application stage & what should be kept later for EU1 stage [for dependent ascendents of EU citizen ]

Cheers

[shpirtshqipe]

Your question about point 4
It doesn't really matter which stage to hold back or not because essentially when you are applying for C Visa you'll be providing the "lite" version of supporting documents, to be exact you need to only supply:
1. Copy of your passport
2. Bank statements for last 3 months
3. Tenancy agreement or House deeds
4. Utility bills for the last 3 months (maybe 2 or 3 I.e gas or electricity, water, PPSN letter)
5. Payslips for the last 3 months
6. Written letter by yourself confirming your intention of taking on sponsorship of visit
7. Letter from employer

As for the EU1 application you'll be supplying the same stuff only this time at a more comprehensive level (which means anything and everything that is on a official headed paper on your name)

Regards

[Bobthemoggie]

Your question about point 4
It doesn't really matter which stage to hold back or not because essentially when you are applying for C Visa you'll be providing the "lite" version of supporting documents, to be exact you need to only supply:
1. Copy of your passport
2. Bank statements for last 3 months
3. Tenancy agreement or House deeds
4. Utility bills for the last 3 months (maybe 2 or 3 I.e gas or electricity, water, PPSN letter)
5. Payslips for the last 3 months
6. Written letter by yourself confirming your intention of taking on sponsorship of visit
7. Letter from employer

As for the EU1 application you'll be supplying the same stuff only this time at a more comprehensive level (which means anything and everything that is on a official headed paper on your name)

Regards

Thanks a lot.

Could you please advise documents in case you're not in Ireland & applying for travelling together (i.e. accompanying EU citizen)?

Cheers

[Bobthemoggie]

Which country will the Type C application be made?

What is the relation to you of the applicant (assuming you are British)?

- one of the mainland Continental European state in western Europe.

- applicants- dependent Ascendents

Kindly advise in this case.

Dear Expert member,

Kindly let me know your valued input based on the clarification to the query

Cheers

[shpirtshqipe]

Could you please advise documents in case you're not in Ireland & applying for travelling together (i.e. accompanying EU citizen)?

I'm not sure what you are asking here but,

If your relative(s) is/are applying for a C Visa then they do not need to be accompanied by the EU Citizen. The only reason why you would travel with them back to Ireland is when they don't speak English and you need to explain/discuss with the border control person. Even though the C Visa is granted for 3 months by the embassy, at the border control the immigration officer decides how long they can remain in the state (obviously 3 months is the maximum they'll give)

Regards

[Bobthemoggie]

Could you please advise documents in case you're not in Ireland & applying for travelling together (i.e. accompanying EU citizen)?

I'm not sure what you are asking here but,

If your relative(s) is/are applying for a C Visa then they do not need to be accompanied by the EU Citizen. The only reason why you would travel with them back to Ireland is when they don't speak English and you need to explain/discuss with the border control person. Even though the C Visa is granted for 3 months by the embassy, at the border control the immigration officer decides how long they can remain in the state (obviously 3 months is the maximum they'll give)

Regards

thanks for your response.
There seems to be 2 categories: joining & accompanying EU cit.

As both EU cit & family members are currently together OUTSIDE Ireland, elsewhere in Europe, so planing to apply for type-C visa as accompanying EU cit when he moves to Ireland.

So, in this case kindly advise what should be the docs as both EU cit & non-EU family members are outside Ireland.

Thanks

[shpirtshqipe]

As both EU cit & family members are currently together OUTSIDE Ireland, elsewhere in Europe, so planing to apply for type-C visa as accompanying EU cit when he moves to Ireland.

So, in this case kindly advise what should be the docs as both EU cit & non-EU family members are outside Ireland.

Thanks
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I have no experience of this option so can't comment further

All the best

[npayne27]

Hi,

Please don't worry. I know the supporting documents list can seem confusing. If you are applying for a C visa for an 'accompanying' dependent then you need to prove your identity, proof of relationship, proof of dependency on you, and number 4, evidence that you will exercise your treaty rights.

Identity - Passports for you both.
Proof of family link - if it is your parent then you should provide YOUR birth certificate showing they are your parent.
Proof of dependency - bank statements from you to your dependant family member, or western union, money gram receipts showing you have been sending them money, receipts for what they used the money for or that they have withdrawn the money to use it for their needs like supermarket receipts, electric bills, gas etc.

Number 4 - statement of confirmation that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen will be exercising those rights at the time of the applicant family member’s arrival in Ireland - this is a written letter by you, stating that you will be exercising your rights at the time of the applicant's arrival and yourself together.

[jul1]

atm ur not in Ireland so that makes a bit more difficult, would be easier if u set urself up already in here.
U still have the right though to get this Visa C.

The best would be to show them where will u live, what will u do here.
Even though im a registered permanent resident here under eu law, and we applied from within the EU to Ireland they still asked for the address where we will live and my bank account for the last 6 months if we can afford the trip. In theory they cant ask for proof of funds, but it was easy for me anyway, and we had a prtb registered apartment rented already so for me it was not hard to show them what will we do here.

Or you can tell them u just want to visit for 1 week than leave, than they will look for different supporting docs.

If you are applying from mainland Europe, even if it is outside of EU, like Serbia the processing time and the hassle is not as bad as from far poor countries, like many in Asia.

[Bobthemoggie]

Hi,

Please don't worry. I know the supporting documents list can seem confusing. If you are applying for a C visa for an 'accompanying' dependent then you need to prove your identity, proof of relationship, proof of dependency on you, and number 4, evidence that you will exercise your treaty rights.

Identity - Passports for you both.
Proof of family link - if it is your parent then you should provide YOUR birth certificate showing they are your parent.
Proof of dependency - bank statements from you to your dependant family member, or western union, money gram receipts showing you have been sending them money, receipts for what they used the money for or that they have withdrawn the money to use it for their needs like supermarket receipts, electric bills, gas etc.

Number 4 - statement of confirmation that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen will be exercising those rights at the time of the applicant family member’s arrival in Ireland - this is a written letter by you, stating that you will be exercising your rights at the time of the applicant's arrival and yourself together.

Really helpful info. Thanks a lot

[Bobthemoggie]

atm ur not in Ireland so that makes a bit more difficult, would be easier if u set urself up already in here.
U still have the right though to get this Visa C.

The best would be to show them where will u live, what will u do here.
Even though im a registered permanent resident here under eu law, and we applied from within the EU to Ireland they still asked for the address where we will live and my bank account for the last 6 months if we can afford the trip. In theory they cant ask for proof of funds, but it was easy for me anyway, and we had a prtb registered apartment rented already so for me it was not hard to show them what will we do here.

Or you can tell them u just want to visit for 1 week than leave, than they will look for different supporting docs.

If you are applying from mainland Europe, even if it is outside of EU, like Serbia the processing time and the hassle is not as bad as from far poor countries, like many in Asia.

Thanks for your response.

[Bobthemoggie]

Hi,

Please don't worry. I know the supporting documents list can seem confusing. If you are applying for a C visa for an 'accompanying' dependent then you need to prove your identity, proof of relationship, proof of dependency on you, and number 4, evidence that you will exercise your treaty rights.

Identity - Passports for you both.
Proof of family link - if it is your parent then you should provide YOUR birth certificate showing they are your parent.
Proof of dependency - bank statements from you to your dependant family member, or western union, money gram receipts showing you have been sending them money, receipts for what they used the money for or that they have withdrawn the money to use it for their needs like supermarket receipts, electric bills, gas etc.

Number 4 - statement of confirmation that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen will be exercising those rights at the time of the applicant family member’s arrival in Ireland - this is a written letter by you, stating that you will be exercising your rights at the time of the applicant's arrival and yourself together.

Really helpful info. Thanks a lot

I have further query- as I am already in another EU counrty with my non-EU family members.
And their residence card application is under progress in current EU country.

But as its taking forever due to massive backlogs & job situation is not sustainable (indirect impact/ challenge i'm facing) so,
if we make application to Ireland's Type-C visa under EU Directive; Then,
- in supporting docs, Should I show money remitted before we joined in current EU state
- and evidence that we currently stay in same address ( few letters from authorities)
- as we stay in same address, so I do not have additional financial proofs after family members joined here(obviously because we're together now)

Q: What about the temporary sticker in the passport, by current EU state that- application under EU route has been made .
-Will either of application has negative affect on each other?

kindly advise

cheers

[Bobthemoggie]

Hi guys,

I have query- as I am in EU country in the schegen area with my non-EU family members (immediate family members of EU citizen-dependent parents)
And their residence card application is under progress.

But as its taking forever due to massive backlogs (and perhaps authorities have started to depriortise the applications) & job situation is not sustainable (indirect impact/ challenge i'm facing) so, I am thinking to move to Ireland.
if we make application to Ireland's Type-C visa under EU Directive; Then,
- in supporting docs, Should I show money remitted before family members joined in current EU state
- and evidence that we currently stay in same address ( few letters from authorities)
- as we stay in same address, so I do not have additional financial proofs after family members joined here(obviously because we're together now)
- Due to tremendous problem of tenancy, I am unable to add them on tenancy agreement, but have managed to register with local council.

Q: What about the temporary sticker in the passport, by current EU state that- application under EU route has been made .
-Will either of application has negative affect on each other?

kindly advise

Cheers

[Bobthemoggie]

Hi,

Please don't worry. I know the supporting documents list can seem confusing. If you are applying for a C visa for an 'accompanying' dependent then you need to prove your identity, proof of relationship, proof of dependency on you, and number 4, evidence that you will exercise your treaty rights.

Identity - Passports for you both.
Proof of family link - if it is your parent then you should provide YOUR birth certificate showing they are your parent.
Proof of dependency - bank statements from you to your dependant family member, or western union, money gram receipts showing you have been sending them money, receipts for what they used the money for or that they have withdrawn the money to use it for their needs like supermarket receipts, electric bills, gas etc.

Number 4 - statement of confirmation that the EU/EEA/Swiss citizen will be exercising those rights at the time of the applicant family member’s arrival in Ireland - this is a written letter by you, stating that you will be exercising your rights at the time of the applicant's arrival and yourself together.

Really helpful info. Thanks a lot

Dear Expert members,

I have URGENT query- we are about to make an application to local Irish embassy, here in the Europe.
My family member have around 1-2 month on the current temporary sticker while awaiting for their RC, here in the Continental Europe.
Now on this background, when I am making online application INIS website, it asks following question:
> "Do you have permission to return to that country after your stay in Ireland?"
What shall we select in this question, as Note that- decision on RC is not out yet.

Your quick response will be highly appreciated

Cheers

[Bobthemoggie]

Dear Expert members,

Very sorry if its a repeat query but I have URGENT query-
I am a EU citizen, living in continental Europe, alongwith my non-EEA family members.
we are about to make an application to local Irish embassy, here in other side of Europe, for EU directive visa as Immediate family member.
My family member have just 1-2 months remaining on the current temporary sticker while they await for their RC, here in Netherlands. But before result arrives I am applying for their 'Accompanying EU citizen visa' to Ireland. And due to work matters I would like move to Ireland.
Now on this background, when I am making online application INIS website, it asks following question:
> "Do you have permission to return to that country after your stay in Ireland?"
What shall we select in this question, as Note that- decision on RC here is not made yet.

I have no hope that visa would be processed with lightening speed, but still we don't want get turned down at embassy while submitting the application / worst get a refusal.

Your quick response will be highly appreciated.

Kindly advise

Cheers